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 by: David North - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 04:25 UTC

On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5-8301-794364716634n@googlegroups.com>,
> mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
>> think under close,
>
> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.

1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).

--
David North

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 by: RH - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 07:36 UTC

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
> > In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
> > mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
> >> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
> >> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
> >> think under close,
> >
> > They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
> > interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
> > usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
> > tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
> > by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
> > all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
> > more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
>
>
> --
> David North
Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.

I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH

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 by: David North - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:20 UTC

On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
>>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
>>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
>>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
>>>> think under close,
>>>
>>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
>>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
>>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
>>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
>>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
>>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
>>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
>> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).

> Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.

Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
Eric Bedser 92)

> I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH

Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
(behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
time Horton took 100).

Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
over 100, and Weeks 94.

--
David North

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 by: RH - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 07:44 UTC

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:20:25 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> >> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
> >>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
> >>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
> >>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
> >>>> think under close,
> >>>
> >>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
> >>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
> >>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
> >>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
> >>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
> >>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
> >>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
> >> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
> > Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.
> Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
> 1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
> Eric Bedser 92)
> > I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
> Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
> (behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
> time Horton took 100).
>
> Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
> over 100, and Weeks 94.
>
> --
> David North

Going further back into history when George Hirst, Wilfred RHodes and Schofield Haigh were playing (1899 onwards) they routinely all too 100 wickets a year and there were bowlers in the 1899- 1914 periods such as Ted Wainwright, , JT Newstead, Alphonzo Drake and Major Booth have the odd season with 100 wickets so there is a fair chance there are a few cases of four 100 victim bowlers in the period.

Moving to the inter war years Yorkshire had Rhodes, Macaulay, Emmott Robinson and Roy KiIner in the 1929s who probably came up with 4 bowlers taking 100 wickets in the same season. In the 1930s Bowes, Verity, T Smails and E P Robinson may have performed the feat.

Derbyshire in the 1930s may have performed the feat with the Pope Brothers, Len Townsend , Bill Copson and the legspinner Mitchell .
RH

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 by: David North - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 12:59 UTC

On Friday, 1 October 2021 at 08:44:11 UTC+1, RH wrote:
> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:20:25 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> > On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> > >> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
> > >>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
> > >>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> > >>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
> > >>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
> > >>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
> > >>>> think under close,
> > >>>
> > >>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
> > >>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
> > >>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
> > >>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
> > >>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
> > >>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
> > >>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
> > >> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
> > > Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.
> > Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
> > 1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
> > Eric Bedser 92)
> > > I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
> > Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
> > (behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
> > time Horton took 100).
> >
> > Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
> > over 100, and Weeks 94.
> >
> > --
> > David North
> Going further back into history when George Hirst, Wilfred RHodes and Schofield Haigh were playing (1899 onwards) they routinely all too 100 wickets a year

They all took 100 every season from 1903 to 1909.

> and there were bowlers in the 1899- 1914 periods such as Ted Wainwright, , JT Newstead, Alphonzo Drake and Major Booth have the odd season with 100 wickets so there is a fair chance there are a few cases of four 100 victim bowlers in the period.

Newstead in 1908 was the only other Yorkshire bowler to take 100 during the 1903-1909 period.

Booth took 100 in 1912, 1913 and 1914, making 3 with Hirst and Haigh in 1912, with Hirst and Drake in 1913, and with Drake and Rhodes in 1914, but never 4.

Wainwright took 100 every season from 1892 to 1897 except 1895, and was joined by Peel and Hirst in 1896.

> Moving to the inter war years Yorkshire had Rhodes, Macaulay, Emmott Robinson and Roy KiIner in the 1929s who probably came up with 4 bowlers taking 100 wickets in the same season.

Once in the 1920s - Waddington, not Robinson.

In the 1930s Bowes, Verity, T Smails and E P Robinson may have performed the feat.

Yes - 1938.

> Derbyshire in the 1930s may have performed the feat with the Pope Brothers, Len Townsend , Bill Copson and the legspinner Mitchell .

No time to check that now ...
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 by: David North - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:27 UTC

On 01/10/2021 13:59, David North wrote:
> On Friday, 1 October 2021 at 08:44:11 UTC+1, RH wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:20:25 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>> On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
>>>>>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
>>>>>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
>>>>>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
>>>>>>> think under close,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
>>>>>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
>>>>>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
>>>>>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
>>>>>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
>>>>>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
>>>>>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
>>>>> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
>>>> Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.
>>> Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
>>> 1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
>>> Eric Bedser 92)
>>>> I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
>>> Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
>>> (behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
>>> time Horton took 100).
>>>
>>> Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
>>> over 100, and Weeks 94.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David North
>> Going further back into history when George Hirst, Wilfred RHodes and Schofield Haigh were playing (1899 onwards) they routinely all too 100 wickets a year
>
> They all took 100 every season from 1903 to 1909.
>
>> and there were bowlers in the 1899- 1914 periods such as Ted Wainwright, , JT Newstead, Alphonzo Drake and Major Booth have the odd season with 100 wickets so there is a fair chance there are a few cases of four 100 victim bowlers in the period.
>
> Newstead in 1908 was the only other Yorkshire bowler to take 100 during the 1903-1909 period.
>
> Booth took 100 in 1912, 1913 and 1914, making 3 with Hirst and Haigh in 1912, with Hirst and Drake in 1913, and with Drake and Rhodes in 1914, but never 4.
>
> Wainwright took 100 every season from 1892 to 1897 except 1895, and was joined by Peel and Hirst in 1896.
>
>> Moving to the inter war years Yorkshire had Rhodes, Macaulay, Emmott Robinson and Roy KiIner in the 1929s who probably came up with 4 bowlers taking 100 wickets in the same season.
>
> Once in the 1920s - Waddington, not Robinson.
>
> In the 1930s Bowes, Verity, T Smails and E P Robinson may have performed the feat.
>
> Yes - 1938.
>
>> Derbyshire in the 1930s may have performed the feat with the Pope Brothers, Len Townsend , Bill Copson and the legspinner Mitchell .
>
> No time to check that now ...

Mitchell took 100 every season from 1929 to 1938, but 1938 was the only
time more than one of the others also did (Copson and George Pope). Alf
Pope took 91 that season; he took more than 90 3 times, but his most was 99.

Barratt, Voce, Larwood and Sam Staples of Notts all took 100 in 1929
(the last time Barratt and Staples did it, and the first time for Voce).

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 by: RH - Sat, 2 Oct 2021 08:31 UTC

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:27:29 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 01/10/2021 13:59, David North wrote:
> > On Friday, 1 October 2021 at 08:44:11 UTC+1, RH wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:20:25 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> >>> On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> >>>>> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
> >>>>>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >>>>>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
> >>>>>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
> >>>>>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
> >>>>>>> think under close,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
> >>>>>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
> >>>>>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
> >>>>>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
> >>>>>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
> >>>>>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
> >>>>>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
> >>>>> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
> >>>> Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.
> >>> Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
> >>> 1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
> >>> Eric Bedser 92)
> >>>> I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
> >>> Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
> >>> (behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
> >>> time Horton took 100).
> >>>
> >>> Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
> >>> over 100, and Weeks 94.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> David North
> >> Going further back into history when George Hirst, Wilfred RHodes and Schofield Haigh were playing (1899 onwards) they routinely all too 100 wickets a year
> >
> > They all took 100 every season from 1903 to 1909.
> >
> >> and there were bowlers in the 1899- 1914 periods such as Ted Wainwright, , JT Newstead, Alphonzo Drake and Major Booth have the odd season with 100 wickets so there is a fair chance there are a few cases of four 100 victim bowlers in the period.
> >
> > Newstead in 1908 was the only other Yorkshire bowler to take 100 during the 1903-1909 period.
> >
> > Booth took 100 in 1912, 1913 and 1914, making 3 with Hirst and Haigh in 1912, with Hirst and Drake in 1913, and with Drake and Rhodes in 1914, but never 4.
> >
> > Wainwright took 100 every season from 1892 to 1897 except 1895, and was joined by Peel and Hirst in 1896.
> >
> >> Moving to the inter war years Yorkshire had Rhodes, Macaulay, Emmott Robinson and Roy KiIner in the 1929s who probably came up with 4 bowlers taking 100 wickets in the same season.
> >
> > Once in the 1920s - Waddington, not Robinson.
> >
> > In the 1930s Bowes, Verity, T Smails and E P Robinson may have performed the feat.
> >
> > Yes - 1938.
> >
> >> Derbyshire in the 1930s may have performed the feat with the Pope Brothers, Len Townsend , Bill Copson and the legspinner Mitchell .
> >
> > No time to check that now ...
> Mitchell took 100 every season from 1929 to 1938, but 1938 was the only
> time more than one of the others also did (Copson and George Pope). Alf
> Pope took 91 that season; he took more than 90 3 times, but his most was 99.
>
> Barratt, Voce, Larwood and Sam Staples of Notts all took 100 in 1929
> (the last time Barratt and Staples did it, and the first time for Voce).
>
> --
> David North

Here is an unlikely one from Leics in 1961: Spencer, Boshier, Van Gelovan, Savage

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 by: David North - Sat, 2 Oct 2021 11:00 UTC

On 02/10/2021 09:31, RH wrote:
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:27:29 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>> On 01/10/2021 13:59, David North wrote:
>>> On Friday, 1 October 2021 at 08:44:11 UTC+1, RH wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:20:25 PM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>>>>>> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>>>>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
>>>>>>>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
>>>>>>>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
>>>>>>>>> think under close,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
>>>>>>>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
>>>>>>>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
>>>>>>>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
>>>>>>>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
>>>>>>>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
>>>>>>>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
>>>>>>> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
>>>>>> Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s probably more than once.
>>>>> Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
>>>>> 1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser 96,
>>>>> Eric Bedser 92)
>>>>>> I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in 1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
>>>>> Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
>>>>> (behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the only
>>>>> time Horton took 100).
>>>>>
>>>>> Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
>>>>> over 100, and Weeks 94.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> David North
>>>> Going further back into history when George Hirst, Wilfred RHodes and Schofield Haigh were playing (1899 onwards) they routinely all too 100 wickets a year
>>>
>>> They all took 100 every season from 1903 to 1909.
>>>
>>>> and there were bowlers in the 1899- 1914 periods such as Ted Wainwright, , JT Newstead, Alphonzo Drake and Major Booth have the odd season with 100 wickets so there is a fair chance there are a few cases of four 100 victim bowlers in the period.
>>>
>>> Newstead in 1908 was the only other Yorkshire bowler to take 100 during the 1903-1909 period.
>>>
>>> Booth took 100 in 1912, 1913 and 1914, making 3 with Hirst and Haigh in 1912, with Hirst and Drake in 1913, and with Drake and Rhodes in 1914, but never 4.
>>>
>>> Wainwright took 100 every season from 1892 to 1897 except 1895, and was joined by Peel and Hirst in 1896.
>>>
>>>> Moving to the inter war years Yorkshire had Rhodes, Macaulay, Emmott Robinson and Roy KiIner in the 1929s who probably came up with 4 bowlers taking 100 wickets in the same season.
>>>
>>> Once in the 1920s - Waddington, not Robinson.
>>>
>>> In the 1930s Bowes, Verity, T Smails and E P Robinson may have performed the feat.
>>>
>>> Yes - 1938.
>>>
>>>> Derbyshire in the 1930s may have performed the feat with the Pope Brothers, Len Townsend , Bill Copson and the legspinner Mitchell .
>>>
>>> No time to check that now ...
>> Mitchell took 100 every season from 1929 to 1938, but 1938 was the only
>> time more than one of the others also did (Copson and George Pope). Alf
>> Pope took 91 that season; he took more than 90 3 times, but his most was 99.
>>
>> Barratt, Voce, Larwood and Sam Staples of Notts all took 100 in 1929
>> (the last time Barratt and Staples did it, and the first time for Voce).
>
> Here is an unlikely one from Leics in 1961: Spencer, Boshier, Van Gelovan, Savage

3 of them took 100, but Van Geloven 'only' took 84. His only 100 was the
following year, when none of the others did it.

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David North

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 by: John Hall - Sat, 2 Oct 2021 17:37 UTC

In message <irmo0nFef4fU1@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>On 30/09/2021 08:36, RH wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 5:25:13 AM UTC+1,
>>nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>> On 27/09/2021 08:37, John Hall wrote:
>>>> In message <af62e9ae-1fdd-48d5...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>> Although its b4 my time i would have thought Close was the successor
>>>>> to surridge in his type of leadership. although yorks in the 60s wernt
>>>>> as dominant as surry in the 50s, i think they did win the CC 5x, i
>>>>> think under close,
>>>>
>>>> They were very strong in the 1960s, though their run of titles was
>>>> interrupted by two wins by Worcestershire in (IIRC) 1964 and 1965. As is
>>>> usual with great Championship-winning sides, their attack was
>>>> tremendous, with True, Nicholson, Illingworth and Don Wilson, supported
>>>> by Close himself. I think it was in 1963 that the first four of those
>>>> all took over 100 f-c wickets in the season, which even in the days of
>>>> more Championship matches was pretty phenomenal.
>>> 1966 (and not "over", as Illingworth and Wilson took exactly 100).
>
>> Surrey had 4 100 wickets bowlers in the same season in the 1950s
>>probably more than once.
>
>Yes - Laker, Lock, Alec Bedser and Loader all took 100+ in 1954 and
>1957. They were very close in 1955 (Loader 96) and 1956 (Alec Bedser
>96, Eric Bedser 92)
>
>> I am pretty sure Worcs did when they won the CC for the first time in
>>1964: Flavell, Coldwell, Horton, Gifford.... RH
>
>Gifford and Flavell did, and Coldwell took 98, but Horton only took 48
>(behind Standen's 64). However, they did all take 100+ in 1961 (the
>only time Horton took 100).
>
>Warwickshire were close in 1951, with Hollies, Grove and Pritchard all
>over 100, and Weeks 94.
>

Thanks for all your research. Perhaps we should introduce an Aslam Award
for research above and beyond the call of duty. :)
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

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