Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-07-07 17:52:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 17:22:06 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>> (in article <u88s3s$1abc3$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <u85v1r$shdb$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am 06.07.23 um 09:07 schrieb Alan B:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t think so!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank God it is not offered to the public in Europe due to the GDPR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the biggest red flag for me. Obviously, you mean the EU as it is
>>>>>>>> available in Europe i.e. the UK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am tempted as twitter is a mess now and there's a need for a replacement,
>>>>>>>> but I don't use instagram and I don't want to be part of meta.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish BlueSky would hurry up and be generally available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warning: Muskiness detected at BlueSky. Proceed at your own risk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm already on twitter so it can't be worse, can it?!
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at the ToS. I suspect that BlueSky will want a _lot_ of access.
>>>>
>>>> The main attraction is that it is a distributed network so isn't under the
>>>> sole control of single organisation. They are also open sourcing some
>>>> parts.
>>>
>>> BlueSky is *potentially* distributed, possibly maybe sometime, but is
>>> not at the moment.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
>> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
>> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
>> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
>> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>>
>> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
>> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
>> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
>> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
>> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
>> percieved "danger" using the app.
>
> I guess a lot of users are concerned about their personal data being
> hacked, given some recent publicised incidents. Despite that I may return
> to Reddit once the dust settles following the recent shenanigans.
>

I see Howard Oakley has expressed his views today. He doesn’t seem very
impressed with what’s on offer with concerns about privacy / personal data.

<https://eclecticlight.co/2023/07/08/mastodon-threads-bluesky-and-what-next/>

--
Cheers, Alan

On 8 Jul 2023 at 09:07:55 BST, Alan B wrote:

> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-07 17:52:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>>
>>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 17:22:06 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>> (in article <u88s3s$1abc3$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article <u85v1r$shdb$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.07.23 um 09:07 schrieb Alan B:
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t think so!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank God it is not offered to the public in Europe due to the GDPR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the biggest red flag for me. Obviously, you mean the EU as it is
>>>>>>>>> available in Europe i.e. the UK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am tempted as twitter is a mess now and there's a need for a replacement,
>>>>>>>>> but I don't use instagram and I don't want to be part of meta.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wish BlueSky would hurry up and be generally available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warning: Muskiness detected at BlueSky. Proceed at your own risk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm already on twitter so it can't be worse, can it?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look at the ToS. I suspect that BlueSky will want a _lot_ of access.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main attraction is that it is a distributed network so isn't under the
>>>>> sole control of single organisation. They are also open sourcing some
>>>>> parts.
>>>>
>>>> BlueSky is *potentially* distributed, possibly maybe sometime, but is
>>>> not at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>>
>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
>>> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
>>> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
>>> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
>>> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>>>
>>> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
>>> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
>>> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
>>> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
>>> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
>>> percieved "danger" using the app.
>>
>> I guess a lot of users are concerned about their personal data being
>> hacked, given some recent publicised incidents. Despite that I may return
>> to Reddit once the dust settles following the recent shenanigans.
>>
>
> I see Howard Oakley has expressed his views today. He doesn’t seem very
> impressed with what’s on offer with concerns about privacy / personal data.
>
> <https://eclecticlight.co/2023/07/08/mastodon-threads-bluesky-and-what-next/>

Interesting, although I'm not sure I agree with his view that "Twitter has
gone from being one of the best and most inclusive open communities" - you
needed a pretty thick skin to express opinions IME, with some pretty nasty
attitudes depending on what you were looking at, following etc.

--
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RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 8 Jul 2023 at 09:07:55 BST, Alan B wrote:
>
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-07 17:52:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 17:22:06 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <u88s3s$1abc3$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article <u85v1r$shdb$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.07.23 um 09:07 schrieb Alan B:
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t think so!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank God it is not offered to the public in Europe due to the GDPR.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the biggest red flag for me. Obviously, you mean the EU as it is
>>>>>>>>>> available in Europe i.e. the UK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am tempted as twitter is a mess now and there's a need for a replacement,
>>>>>>>>>> but I don't use instagram and I don't want to be part of meta.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wish BlueSky would hurry up and be generally available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning: Muskiness detected at BlueSky. Proceed at your own risk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm already on twitter so it can't be worse, can it?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look at the ToS. I suspect that BlueSky will want a _lot_ of access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main attraction is that it is a distributed network so isn't under the
>>>>>> sole control of single organisation. They are also open sourcing some
>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> BlueSky is *potentially* distributed, possibly maybe sometime, but is
>>>>> not at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>>>
>>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
>>>> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
>>>> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
>>>> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
>>>> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>>>>
>>>> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
>>>> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
>>>> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
>>>> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
>>>> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
>>>> percieved "danger" using the app.
>>>
>>> I guess a lot of users are concerned about their personal data being
>>> hacked, given some recent publicised incidents. Despite that I may return
>>> to Reddit once the dust settles following the recent shenanigans.
>>>
>>
>> I see Howard Oakley has expressed his views today. He doesn’t seem very
>> impressed with what’s on offer with concerns about privacy / personal data.
>>
>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2023/07/08/mastodon-threads-bluesky-and-what-next/>
>
> Interesting, although I'm not sure I agree with his view that "Twitter has
> gone from being one of the best and most inclusive open communities" - you
> needed a pretty thick skin to express opinions IME, with some pretty nasty
> attitudes depending on what you were looking at, following etc.

It’s difficult for me to give an opinion on Twitter or most of these
socialising apps as I don’t use them. I think a lot of people don’t like or
trust Musk which may sway their opinion?

--
Cheers, Alan

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> On 8 Jul 2023 at 09:07:55 BST, Alan B wrote:
>>
>>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-07-07 17:52:55 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 17:22:06 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article <u88s3s$1abc3$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2023, Chris wrote
>>>>>>>>>> (in article <u85v1r$shdb$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.07.23 um 09:07 schrieb Alan B:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t think so!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank God it is not offered to the public in Europe due to the GDPR.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the biggest red flag for me. Obviously, you mean the EU as it is
>>>>>>>>>>> available in Europe i.e. the UK.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am tempted as twitter is a mess now and there's a need for a replacement,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't use instagram and I don't want to be part of meta.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wish BlueSky would hurry up and be generally available.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Warning: Muskiness detected at BlueSky. Proceed at your own risk.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm already on twitter so it can't be worse, can it?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Look at the ToS. I suspect that BlueSky will want a _lot_ of access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main attraction is that it is a distributed network so isn't under the
>>>>>>> sole control of single organisation. They are also open sourcing some
>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BlueSky is *potentially* distributed, possibly maybe sometime, but is
>>>>>> not at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
>>>>> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
>>>>> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
>>>>> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
>>>>> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
>>>>> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
>>>>> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
>>>>> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
>>>>> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
>>>>> percieved "danger" using the app.
>>>>
>>>> I guess a lot of users are concerned about their personal data being
>>>> hacked, given some recent publicised incidents. Despite that I may return
>>>> to Reddit once the dust settles following the recent shenanigans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see Howard Oakley has expressed his views today. He doesn’t seem very
>>> impressed with what’s on offer with concerns about privacy / personal data.
>>>
>>> <https://eclecticlight.co/2023/07/08/mastodon-threads-bluesky-and-what-next/>
>>
>> Interesting, although I'm not sure I agree with his view that "Twitter has
>> gone from being one of the best and most inclusive open communities" - you
>> needed a pretty thick skin to express opinions IME, with some pretty nasty
>> attitudes depending on what you were looking at, following etc.
>
> It’s difficult for me to give an opinion on Twitter or most of these
> socialising apps as I don’t use them. I think a lot of people don’t like or
> trust Musk which may sway their opinion?

Musk has gone from someone who was somewhat inspirational to a class A,
solid gold, 24 carat prick. He probably always was, but it was previously
hidden.

He's also ruined the experience on twitter and allowed it to turn into a
cesspit giving a voice to the most unpleasant voices.

On 2023-07-07, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>
> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
> percieved "danger" using the app.

From what I've read about social media apps and their privacy, Mastodon
seems to be the least nosey.

--
Cheers, Alan

Am 08.07.23 um 16:14 schrieb Alan B:
> On 2023-07-07, Mark <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y? I mean, are any of them known
>> malicious actors? I use Twitter, I'm on Instagram, FB, Reddit, signed
>> up for Mastadon and probably will also sign up for Lemmy... Threads?
>> Dunno, maybe. The people I follow on Instagram are quite different to
>> those on Twitter. If they were the same, I'd jump right in.
>>
>> I know no one cares about my social media, and I really don't care
>> about anyone elses. I don't engage that much, but definitely do find
>> things like Reddit subs very informative (OK, Reddit isn't quite like
>> the others). My irkedness (that a word?) with Twitter is 100% about
>> ads/promoted content (and killing 3rd party apps), rather than any
>> percieved "danger" using the app.
>
> From what I've read about social media apps and their privacy, Mastodon
> seems to be the least nosey.

But it is sooooo boring.

--
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Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648>

> I don???t think so!

Not at this time. I have too many services!
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On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?

No.
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/

Compare:

Mastodon -
Below is all the data collected by Mastodon that’s mentioned in the App
Store.
[Blank Space]

Bluesky:
App functionality:
Contact Info (Email Address)
User Content (Photos or Videos, Customer Support, Other User
Content)
Identifiers (User ID)

And then we get to Threads -
Third-party advertising:
Purchases (Purchase History)
Financial Info (Other Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content (Photos or Videos, Gameplay Content, Other User
Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data
Developer's advertising or marketing:
Purchases (Purchase History)
Financial Info (Other Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content ( Photos or Videos, Gameplay Content, Other User
Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data
Analytics:
Health & Fitness (Health, Fitness)
Purchases (Purchase History, Financial Info, Payment Info, Other
Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content (Photos or Videos, Audio Data, Gameplay Content,
Customer Support, Other User Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Sensitive Info
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data
Product Personalization:
Purchases (Purchase History)
Financial Info (Other Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content (Photos or Videos, Gameplay Content, Other User
Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Sensitive Info
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data
App functionality:
Health & Fitness (Health, Fitness)
Purchases (Purchase History)
Financial Info (Payment Info, Credit Info, Other Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content (Emails or Text Messages, Photos or Videos, Audio Data,
Gameplay Content, Customer Support, Other User Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Sensitive Info
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data
Other purposes:
Purchases (Purchase History)
Financial Info (Other Financial Info)
Location (Precise Location, Coarse Location)
Contact Info (Physical Address, Email Address, Name, Phone Number,
Other User Contact Info)
Contacts
User Content (Photos or Videos, Gameplay Content, Customer Support,
Other User Content)
Search History
Browsing History
Identifiers (User ID, Device ID)
Usage Data (Product Interaction, Advertising Data, Other Usage Data)
Diagnostics (Crash Data, Performance Data, Other Diagnostic Data)
Other Data

If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.

Cheers - Jaimie
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On 9 Jul 2023 at 13:01:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?
>
> No.
> https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/
>
> [snip]
>
> If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
> photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.
>

And from the comments, there were so many items that I missed
"“Sensitive information” is also listed as a type of data collected by
the Threads app. Some information this could include is your race,
sexual orientation, pregnancy status, and religion as well as your
biometric data. "

Which is nice, and not at all likely to get people killed.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
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-- Malcolm Forbes

On 2023-07-09, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 9 Jul 2023 at 13:01:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
><jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?
>>
>> No.
>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
>> photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.
>>
>
> And from the comments, there were so many items that I missed
> "“Sensitive information” is also listed as a type of data collected by
> the Threads app. Some information this could include is your race,
> sexual orientation, pregnancy status, and religion as well as your
> biometric data. "

Our resident stalker would be in Cloud Nine if he could get hold of all that data ;-)

--
Cheers, Alan

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 9 Jul 2023 at 13:01:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?
>>
>> No.
>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
>> photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.
>>
>
> And from the comments, there were so many items that I missed
> "“Sensitive information” is also listed as a type of data collected by
> the Threads app. Some information this could include is your race,
> sexual orientation, pregnancy status, and religion as well as your
> biometric data. "
>
> Which is nice, and not at all likely to get people killed.
>
> Cheers - Jaimie

I'd heard that threads was a bit grabby in terms of permissions but that's
ridiculous. There's no justifiable reason to have access to even 10% of
that.

I did install it, but never opened it. Have now removed it.

On 9 Jul 2023 at 17:12:17 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>> On 9 Jul 2023 at 13:01:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
>> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?
>>>
>>> No.
>>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
>>> photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.
>>>
>>
>> And from the comments, there were so many items that I missed
>> "“Sensitive information” is also listed as a type of data collected by
>> the Threads app. Some information this could include is your race,
>> sexual orientation, pregnancy status, and religion as well as your
>> biometric data. "
>>
>> Which is nice, and not at all likely to get people killed.
>>
>> Cheers - Jaimie
>
> I'd heard that threads was a bit grabby in terms of permissions but that's
> ridiculous. There's no justifiable reason to have access to even 10% of
> that.
>
> I did install it, but never opened it. Have now removed it.

It's the same set as Instagram, and presumably the FB app too.

On the upside, since iOS14 (or 13?) the default is to *not* allow the
app to see all those things and you'd have to allow it in privacy
settings.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it
-- Philip K Dick

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 9 Jul 2023 at 17:12:17 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>> On 9 Jul 2023 at 13:01:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
>>> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7 Jul 2023 at 21:22:06 BST, "Mark" <captain.black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Apart from disagreeing with certain overlord's politics/etc, isn't some
>>>>> of this a little bit tin-foil hat-y?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/how-threads-privacy-policy-compares-to-twitters-and-its-rivals/
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> If Facebook having your location, health data, your contacts, your
>>>> photos, card and purchase history doesn't worry you then fine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And from the comments, there were so many items that I missed
>>> "“Sensitive information” is also listed as a type of data collected by
>>> the Threads app. Some information this could include is your race,
>>> sexual orientation, pregnancy status, and religion as well as your
>>> biometric data. "
>>>
>>> Which is nice, and not at all likely to get people killed.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Jaimie
>>
>> I'd heard that threads was a bit grabby in terms of permissions but that's
>> ridiculous. There's no justifiable reason to have access to even 10% of
>> that.
>>
>> I did install it, but never opened it. Have now removed it.
>
> It's the same set as Instagram, and presumably the FB app too.

I have insta but rarely use it. It's primarily to see my daughter's stories
when she's away.

> On the upside, since iOS14 (or 13?) the default is to *not* allow the
> app to see all those things and you'd have to allow it in privacy
> settings.

Oh that's right. I remember the Zuck complaining bitterly about those
controls.