I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.

Daniele

D.M. Procida <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>
> Daniele

In Prefs/Family/You (if you are organiser), is 'Use Family Sharing set?

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On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:36:54 CEST, "Sn!pe" <Sn!pe> wrote:

> D.M. Procida <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>
>> Daniele
>
> In Prefs/Family/You (if you are organiser), is 'Use Family Sharing set?

Yes - the only option is: Stop Sharing with Family.

Daniele

On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
^^^^^^^^^^^

Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".

Daniele

Am 24.07.23 um 08:57 schrieb D.M. Procida:
> On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".

Which iOS are you using?

Here my wife and I form a family. What is shared can be easily finetuned.

Settings
iCloud
Family

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Am 24.07.23 um 08:57 schrieb D.M. Procida:
> On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".

https://www.apple.com/family-sharing/

You need a storage plan. Does not work with a free account.

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On 24 Jul 2023 at 07:57:58 BST, "D.M. Procida"
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>
> Daniele

Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
account, rather than you push it on them.

I had to ask my lil sister to go get her own since she was using 130gig
of my 200gig and I wasn't going to jump up to the next level; she had to
disconnect at her end. She's still in the family group but no longer
using the family iCloud storage.

Cheers - Jaimie
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On 24/07/2023 09:32, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 07:57:58 BST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
>> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>
>> Daniele
>
> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
> account, rather than you push it on them.

I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.

You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
the 50GB.

> I had to ask my lil sister to go get her own since she was using 130gig
> of my 200gig and I wasn't going to jump up to the next level; she had to
> disconnect at her end. She's still in the family group but no longer
> using the family iCloud storage.

Hmm, mine has 'Remove xxxxxx From Family'. I think you can do this from
either end of the chain.

Also, they can stay a family member for the rest of it, and choose to
use their own storage option.

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On 24 Jul 2023 at 10:32:06 CEST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

> I had to ask my lil sister to go get her own since she was using 130gig
> of my 200gig and I wasn't going to jump up to the next level; she had to
> disconnect at her end. She's still in the family group but no longer
> using the family iCloud storage.

Interesting, I didn't know that was possible thinking it's either IN or OUT
completely.

A bit OT but I hope they will offer something like 10TB. The max has been 2TB
for a long time.

--
Martin

On 24 Jul 2023 at 17:23:56 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
wrote:

>>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>>
>>> Daniele
>>
>> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
>> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
>> account, rather than you push it on them.
>
> I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
> account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
> joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.
>
> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
> the 50GB.

Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.

Daniele

On 24/07/2023 21:13, D.M. Procida wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 17:23:56 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>>>
>>>> Daniele
>>>
>>> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
>>> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
>>> account, rather than you push it on them.
>>
>> I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
>> account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
>> joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.
>>
>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>> the 50GB.
>
> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.

The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
generally:

System Preferences
1 Click on your iCloud ID at the top
2 Family Sharing item
3 Click 'Add Member' button
4 Invite Others
5 Select person on your contacts - or add sending an iMessage, Email, or
use local Airdrop directly to their device.

They will then get a notification popping up asking them to accept your
invitation. That should be it. You should get a confirmation that they
accepted. If you don't get that, then you know they didn't do it right.

--
Andy H

On 24/07/2023 19:05, Martin-S wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 10:32:06 CEST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
> <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> I had to ask my lil sister to go get her own since she was using 130gig
>> of my 200gig and I wasn't going to jump up to the next level; she had to
>> disconnect at her end. She's still in the family group but no longer
>> using the family iCloud storage.
>
> Interesting, I didn't know that was possible thinking it's either IN or OUT
> completely.

Not completely. They can join the group, for sharing other stuff, like
if you have other services (Music, TV, News etc. or even a One account).
But they can choose to buy their own storage separately.

From Apple Support:

"If a family member is already paying for their own iCloud+ plan, they
can choose to switch to your plan or keep their own and still remain a
part of the family. When they switch to the shared family plan, they get
a refund for the remainder of their personal plan. They can't keep their
current plan and use the shared family plan at the same time."

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208147

Leaving a Family can be done either by the owner removing them, or the
recipient choosing to leave it.

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Andy H

On 24 Jul 2023 at 23:14:01 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
wrote:

>>>
>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>> the 50GB.
>>
>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>
> The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
> generally:

I get that part - I meant where do you see this information about which
accounts can have shared storage?

Daniele

Am 24.07.23 um 22:13 schrieb D.M. Procida:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 17:23:56 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>>>
>>>> Daniele
>>>
>>> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
>>> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
>>> account, rather than you push it on them.
>>
>> I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
>> account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
>> joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.
>>
>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>> the 50GB.
>
> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.

Didn't you read my link to the Apple knowldge base?

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On 25 Jul 2023 at 02:47:12 BST, "D.M. Procida"
<daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 24 Jul 2023 at 23:14:01 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>>> the 50GB.
>>>
>>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>>
>> The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
>> generally:
>
> I get that part - I meant where do you see this information about which
> accounts can have shared storage?

This:

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208147

seems to be saying that it should work with the 50GB account too (second
para).
--
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pull tooth to reply by email

Am 24.07.23 um 10:32 schrieb Jaimie Vandenbergh:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 07:57:58 BST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:24:34 CEST, "D.M. Procida"
>> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>
>> Daniele
>
> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
> account, rather than you push it on them.

So, so! You have no clue. I doubt you ever used it.
This is not a geriatric "Kaffeekränzchen".

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On 25/07/2023 11:04, TimH wrote:
> On 25 Jul 2023 at 02:47:12 BST, "D.M. Procida"
> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24 Jul 2023 at 23:14:01 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>>>> the 50GB.
>>>>
>>>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>>>
>>> The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
>>> generally:
>>
>> I get that part - I meant where do you see this information about which
>> accounts can have shared storage?
>
> This:
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208147
>
> seems to be saying that it should work with the 50GB account too (second
> para).

Yea, noted that too, it ddn't used to be like that, so no idea when they
changed it.

--
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On 25/07/2023 02:47, D.M. Procida wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 23:14:01 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>>> the 50GB.
>>>
>>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>>
>> The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
>> generally:
>
> I get that part - I meant where do you see this information about which
> accounts can have shared storage?

/You/ can't, it's down to the Family members to choose. They can go into
their account settings and buy their own iCloud Storage option, and
switch to that instead. You can see how much each of them is using
though (under Family Usage)

There's also a way to buy more storage for yourself, if you happen to be
one of those that set up seperate iCloud and Purchasing accounts -
potentially giving you 4TB of storage (although I haven't worked out how
to do that yet as I don't need it).

But, there's a load of articles about all this on the Apple site, I'd
have a rummage round in there and see if it clears up anything (to be
honest, they don't realy make it that clear *how* to do some of it, only
that you *can*!)

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Am 25.07.23 um 16:28 schrieb Andy Hewitt:
>
>
> On 25/07/2023 11:04, TimH wrote:
>> On 25 Jul 2023 at 02:47:12 BST, "D.M. Procida"
>> <daniele-at-vurt-dot-org@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24 Jul 2023 at 23:14:01 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>>>>> the 50GB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>>>>
>>>> The exact details will depend on the device you're doing it on, but
>>>> generally:
>>>
>>> I get that part - I meant where do you see this information about which
>>> accounts can have shared storage?
>>
>> This:
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208147
>>
>> seems to be saying that it should work with the 50GB account too (second
>> para).
>
> Yea, noted that too, it ddn't used to be like that, so no idea when they
> changed it.

Several years ago.

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On 24/07/2023 21:13, D.M. Procida wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2023 at 17:23:56 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>>>
>>>> Daniele
>>>
>>> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
>>> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
>>> account, rather than you push it on them.
>>
>> I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
>> account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
>> joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.
>>
>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>> the 50GB.
>
> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>
> Daniele
>
It works here with 50GB

On 26/07/2023 11:12, David Kennedy wrote:
> On 24/07/2023 21:13, D.M. Procida wrote:
>> On 24 Jul 2023 at 17:23:56 CEST, "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I think it should be possible - but in System Preferences >Family >
>>>>>> Subscriptions it says "Not sharing" by their name.
>>>>>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, it says: "Not using", not "Not sharing".
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniele
>>>>
>>>> Iffffff I recall correctly (and I can't test it just now) the family
>>>> member in question has to join the offered shared storage from their
>>>> account, rather than you push it on them.
>>>
>>> I don't think so. I'm sure I've usually added a family mamber in *my*
>>> account, using their AppleID, and they get a notification to accept
>>> joining it. If they don;t accept then they can't use it.
>>>
>>> You do need to have the 200GB or 2TB accounts too, it doesn't work with
>>> the 50GB.
>>
>> Right! Where do you see this? Because this looks like the answer.
>>
>> Daniele
>>
> It works here with 50GB
ignore that. I must have changed to 200 sometime in the past...