On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 09:34:19 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether it's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to imply
>>>>>>> 20w
>>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>>
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t
>>>tried them, but seems like a good idea.
>>>
>>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>>>
>>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be under
>>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>
>> The male USB has two spring-loaded "latches" the main reason
>> they fail some can use pliers to bend these back-up.
>
>Nope, the main reason they fail is because the micro usb
>was always designed to have whets on the end of the
>cable fail first because its trivial to replace the cable
>rather than what it plugs into in the device.
>
>> The Magnetic USB are small almost flush
>> with phone should never wear-out.
>
>Its more complicated than that. It still needs
>a pin to carry the current and that can still fail.
>
>And need to not short on metal if the cable end
>magnetically attaches to some bit of metal.
>
>I park mine on the metal monitor stand when not charging
>the phone or keyboard or kindle paperwhite or headsets.
>
Thanks for the tips
>
>> What I were using, if one has to, one can easily
>> unplug from phone and use a "normal" fitting,
>
>> Digital cameras used special USB unique brand
>> that had to be bought from Cannon etc.
>
>> Anyhow Camera is very good, took first
>> shot Campbelltown Macarthur Square.
>> https://ibb.co/PgXPHcN
>
>Dunno focus isn't great on the carpet in front of the chairs.
>
First shot were aiming upwards, not at carpet.
Has many AI features like identifying persons will focus on person
>
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector,
>>>>>>>> whether it's a micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these
>>>>>>>> days no phone manufacturer uses a unique USB connector,
>>>>>>>> not even Apple. The spec seems to imply 20w charging,
>>>>>>>> it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>>>
>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t
>>>>tried them, but seems like a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>
>>> The male USB has two spring-loaded "latches" the main reason
>>> they fail some can use pliers to bend these back-up.
>>
>>Nope, the main reason they fail is because the micro usb
>>was always designed to have whets on the end of the
>>cable fail first because its trivial to replace the cable
>>rather than what it plugs into in the device.
>>
>>> The Magnetic USB are small almost flush
>>> with phone should never wear-out.
>>
>>Its more complicated than that. It still needs
>>a pin to carry the current and that can still fail.
>>
>>And need to not short on metal if the cable end
>>magnetically attaches to some bit of metal.
>>
>>I park mine on the metal monitor stand when not charging
>>the phone or keyboard or kindle paperwhite or headsets.
>>
> Thanks for the tips
>>
>>> What I were using, if one has to, one can easily
>>> unplug from phone and use a "normal" fitting,
>>
>>> Digital cameras used special USB unique brand
>>> that had to be bought from Cannon etc.
>>
>>> Anyhow Camera is very good, took first
>>> shot Campbelltown Macarthur Square.
>>> https://ibb.co/PgXPHcN
>>
>>Dunno focus isn't great on the carpet in front of the chairs.
>>
> First shot were aiming upwards, not at carpet.
> Has many AI features like identifying persons will focus on person

But better cameras have better depth of
field with as bright a field as that one.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 13:32:51 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector,
>>>>>>>>> whether it's a micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these
>>>>>>>>> days no phone manufacturer uses a unique USB connector,
>>>>>>>>> not even Apple. The spec seems to imply 20w charging,
>>>>>>>>> it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>>>>
>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t
>>>>>tried them, but seems like a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>
>>>> The male USB has two spring-loaded "latches" the main reason
>>>> they fail some can use pliers to bend these back-up.
>>>
>>>Nope, the main reason they fail is because the micro usb
>>>was always designed to have whets on the end of the
>>>cable fail first because its trivial to replace the cable
>>>rather than what it plugs into in the device.
>>>
>>>> The Magnetic USB are small almost flush
>>>> with phone should never wear-out.
>>>
>>>Its more complicated than that. It still needs
>>>a pin to carry the current and that can still fail.
>>>
>>>And need to not short on metal if the cable end
>>>magnetically attaches to some bit of metal.
>>>
>>>I park mine on the metal monitor stand when not charging
>>>the phone or keyboard or kindle paperwhite or headsets.
>>>
>> Thanks for the tips
>>>
>>>> What I were using, if one has to, one can easily
>>>> unplug from phone and use a "normal" fitting,
>>>
>>>> Digital cameras used special USB unique brand
>>>> that had to be bought from Cannon etc.
>>>
>>>> Anyhow Camera is very good, took first
>>>> shot Campbelltown Macarthur Square.
>>>> https://ibb.co/PgXPHcN
>>>
>>>Dunno focus isn't great on the carpet in front of the chairs.
>>>
>> First shot were aiming upwards, not at carpet.
>> Has many AI features like identifying persons will focus on person
>
>But better cameras have better depth of
>field with as bright a field as that one.

Well still learning, but probably my settings not right?
Go to bottom of page and select More Exif data gives data
motorola moto g 5G plus
1/115s ƒ/1.7 ISO100 4.85mm — More Exif data

--
Petzl
ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!

On 30/07/2021 7:04 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonz liked his and it is good advice for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Found out why people can't get Covid Q-code to work.
>>>>>>>>>>> At officeworks today went OK for me and someone asked ow do I
>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>> to work "I click camera/photo" and nothing happens!
>>>>>>>>>>> I said you don't click camera, you click "Service NSW APP"
>>>>>>>>>>> She did this and it worked
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> THEN about 20 formed a queue to try again?
>>>>>>>>>>> Something wrong with the water out here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've decided to buy this "T" shirt.
>>>>>>>>>>> Will shop around
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.spreadshirt.com.au/shop/design/no+i+will+not+fix+your+computer+unisex+tri-blend+t-shirt-D5d8e15e82051765a80f1d51a?sellable=qrdkmbAV2QTOl1q3AGVe-691-8&appearance=251&size=6>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    https://is.gd/Koq6LK
>>>>>>>>>>> No, I will not fix your computer
>
>>>>>>>>>>      Heh, glad i could help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New it was to good to be true!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> found the problem Motorola Moto G plus needs a specific type
>>>>>>>>> Motorola
>>>>>>>>> USB fit cable to charge/share data
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> none yet in Australia, UK sells this adaptor.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.ie/itm/283517748195?hash=item4202f983e3:g:1f8AAOSwIyhdBOpi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>            https://is.gd/mqwWPD
>>>>>>>>> 3 x Type C Male to Micro USB Female Converter For Motorola Moto
>>>>>>>>> G5s
>>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not buy a normal type C cable, you can buy them just about
>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need a Motorola unique plug-in fitting. None of my existing USB
>>>>>>> cords
>>>>>>> fit. Somewhere below?
>>>>>>> <https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=moto+g5+s+plus++micro+usb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=moto+g5+s+plus++"micro+usb+original"&_osacat=0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://is.gd/Iaf1lC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether
>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to
>>>>>> imply 20w
>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>
>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>
>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>
>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t tried
>> them, but seems like a good idea.
>
> I have and wouldn’t use anything else now.
>
>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.

But can they do USB-C fast charging?

> Yeah, that’s the reason I started using them. Managed to get
> crap into the lightning port of the iphone 5, likely a fragment
> of marmalade I have for breakfast and never could get it out.

Disgusting.

> So I used a little rubber plug for the port with the 6S to stop
> that happening again. Damned nuisance when charging and
> they keep falling out and you cant even buy them anymore.
>
> Not so important now with inductive chargers which are even better.
>
> Another big lack with the Moto G, no inductive charging.
>
>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>     https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be under
>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>
>

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:27:30 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>On 30/07/2021 7:04 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>> Petzl wrote
>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonz liked his and it is good advice for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Found out why people can't get Covid Q-code to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>> At officeworks today went OK for me and someone asked ow do I
>>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>>> to work "I click camera/photo" and nothing happens!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I said you don't click camera, you click "Service NSW APP"
>>>>>>>>>>>> She did this and it worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEN about 20 formed a queue to try again?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something wrong with the water out here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've decided to buy this "T" shirt.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will shop around
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.spreadshirt.com.au/shop/design/no+i+will+not+fix+your+computer+unisex+tri-blend+t-shirt-D5d8e15e82051765a80f1d51a?sellable=qrdkmbAV2QTOl1q3AGVe-691-8&appearance=251&size=6>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                    https://is.gd/Koq6LK
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I will not fix your computer
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      Heh, glad i could help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> New it was to good to be true!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> found the problem Motorola Moto G plus needs a specific type
>>>>>>>>>> Motorola
>>>>>>>>>> USB fit cable to charge/share data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> none yet in Australia, UK sells this adaptor.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.ie/itm/283517748195?hash=item4202f983e3:g:1f8AAOSwIyhdBOpi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>            https://is.gd/mqwWPD
>>>>>>>>>> 3 x Type C Male to Micro USB Female Converter For Motorola Moto
>>>>>>>>>> G5s
>>>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not buy a normal type C cable, you can buy them just about
>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Need a Motorola unique plug-in fitting. None of my existing USB
>>>>>>>> cords
>>>>>>>> fit. Somewhere below?
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=moto+g5+s+plus++micro+usb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=moto+g5+s+plus++"micro+usb+original"&_osacat=0>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://is.gd/Iaf1lC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether
>>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to
>>>>>>> imply 20w
>>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>>
>>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t tried
>>> them, but seems like a good idea.
>>
>> I have and wouldn’t use anything else now.
>>
>>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>
>But can they do USB-C fast charging?
>
This one claims to ?
<https://www.amazon.com.au/Magnetic-Adapter-Connector-CAFELE-360°Rotating/dp/B07Y9L5CCQ>
https://is.gd/rJ3iS1
>
>> Yeah, that’s the reason I started using them. Managed to get
>> crap into the lightning port of the iphone 5, likely a fragment
>> of marmalade I have for breakfast and never could get it out.
>
>Disgusting.
>
>> So I used a little rubber plug for the port with the 6S to stop
>> that happening again. Damned nuisance when charging and
>> they keep falling out and you cant even buy them anymore.
>>
>> Not so important now with inductive chargers which are even better.
>>
>> Another big lack with the Moto G, no inductive charging.
>>
>>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>>     https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be under
>>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>
>>
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

On 30/7/21 7:04 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jonz liked his and it is good advice for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Found out why people can't get Covid Q-code to work.
>>>>>>>>>>> At officeworks today went OK for me and someone asked ow do I
>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>> to work "I click camera/photo" and nothing happens!
>>>>>>>>>>> I said you don't click camera, you click "Service NSW APP"
>>>>>>>>>>> She did this and it worked
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> THEN about 20 formed a queue to try again?
>>>>>>>>>>> Something wrong with the water out here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've decided to buy this "T" shirt.
>>>>>>>>>>> Will shop around
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.spreadshirt.com.au/shop/design/no+i+will+not+fix+your+computer+unisex+tri-blend+t-shirt-D5d8e15e82051765a80f1d51a?sellable=qrdkmbAV2QTOl1q3AGVe-691-8&appearance=251&size=6>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                    https://is.gd/Koq6LK
>>>>>>>>>>> No, I will not fix your computer
>
>>>>>>>>>>      Heh, glad i could help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New it was to good to be true!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> found the problem Motorola Moto G plus needs a specific type
>>>>>>>>> Motorola
>>>>>>>>> USB fit cable to charge/share data
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> none yet in Australia, UK sells this adaptor.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.ie/itm/283517748195?hash=item4202f983e3:g:1f8AAOSwIyhdBOpi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>            https://is.gd/mqwWPD
>>>>>>>>> 3 x Type C Male to Micro USB Female Converter For Motorola Moto
>>>>>>>>> G5s
>>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not buy a normal type C cable, you can buy them just about
>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need a Motorola unique plug-in fitting. None of my existing USB
>>>>>>> cords
>>>>>>> fit. Somewhere below?
>>>>>>> <https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=moto+g5+s+plus++micro+usb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=moto+g5+s+plus++"micro+usb+original"&_osacat=0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://is.gd/Iaf1lC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether
>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to
>>>>>> imply 20w
>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>
>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>
>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>
>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>
>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t tried
>> them, but seems like a good idea.
>
> I have and wouldn’t use anything else now.
>
>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>
> Yeah, that’s the reason I started using them. Managed to get
> crap into the lightning port of the iphone 5, likely a fragment
> of marmalade I have for breakfast and never could get it out.

Have you tried a bib? Works well for babies so you have a *chance* of
success with one. Alternatively, if you're finding it all too much at
your advanced age, you might consider having your carer feed you. Much
less messy that way.

HTH

--

Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 7/30/2021 7:16 AM, Petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 18:31:03 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether it's a
>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to imply 20w
>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>
>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, my mistake
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>    Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t
>> tried them, but seems like a good idea.
>>
>>     Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
       Bought one today, plus an adapter to suit the Moto charger. (USB
to Type C)
>>
>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be under
>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
> The male USB has two spring-loaded "latches" the main reason they fail
> some can use pliers to bend these back-up.
> The Magnetic USB are small almost flush with phone should never
> wear-out.
> What I were using, if one has to, one can easily unplug from phone and
> use a "normal" fitting,
>
> Digital cameras used special USB unique brand that had to be bought
> from Cannon etc.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   Just ask for a 'Mini B' lead. Should be able to get from where ever.. ;)

>
>
> Anyhow Camera is very good, took first shot Campbelltown Macarthur
> Square.
> https://ibb.co/PgXPHcN

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 16:24:47 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:

>On 7/30/2021 7:16 AM, Petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 18:31:03 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether it's a
>>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone manufacturer
>>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to imply 20w
>>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>    Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t
>>> tried them, but seems like a good idea.
>>>
>>>     Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>        Bought one today, plus an adapter to suit the Moto charger. (USB
>to Type C)
>>>
>>>>>> Looks like you are on right track
>>>>>> none seem available in Australia on Ebay
>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>>>>>> As I like my data connection to PC photos music they need to be under
>>>>>> a metre in length
>>>>>> https://is.gd/nZdGCn
>> The male USB has two spring-loaded "latches" the main reason they fail
>> some can use pliers to bend these back-up.
>> The Magnetic USB are small almost flush with phone should never
>> wear-out.
>> What I were using, if one has to, one can easily unplug from phone and
>> use a "normal" fitting,
>>
>> Digital cameras used special USB unique brand that had to be bought
>> from Cannon etc.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>    Just ask for a 'Mini B' lead. Should be able to get from where ever.. ;)
>
Given up on cameras mobile is enough thankss though
>>
>>
>> Anyhow Camera is very good, took first shot Campbelltown Macarthur
>> Square.
>> https://ibb.co/PgXPHcN
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>> Petzl wrote
>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>>>>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonz liked his and it is good advice for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Found out why people can't get Covid Q-code to work.
>>>>>>>>>>>> At officeworks today went OK for me and someone asked ow do I
>>>>>>>>>>>> get it
>>>>>>>>>>>> to work "I click camera/photo" and nothing happens!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I said you don't click camera, you click "Service NSW APP"
>>>>>>>>>>>> She did this and it worked
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEN about 20 formed a queue to try again?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Something wrong with the water out here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've decided to buy this "T" shirt.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Will shop around
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.spreadshirt.com.au/shop/design/no+i+will+not+fix+your+computer+unisex+tri-blend+t-shirt-D5d8e15e82051765a80f1d51a?sellable=qrdkmbAV2QTOl1q3AGVe-691-8&appearance=251&size=6>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/Koq6LK
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I will not fix your computer
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Heh, glad i could help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> New it was to good to be true!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> found the problem Motorola Moto G plus needs a specific type
>>>>>>>>>> Motorola
>>>>>>>>>> USB fit cable to charge/share data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> none yet in Australia, UK sells this adaptor.
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.ie/itm/283517748195?hash=item4202f983e3:g:1f8AAOSwIyhdBOpi
>>>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/mqwWPD
>>>>>>>>>> 3 x Type C Male to Micro USB Female Converter For Motorola Moto
>>>>>>>>>> G5s
>>>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not buy a normal type C cable, you can buy them just about
>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Need a Motorola unique plug-in fitting. None of my existing USB
>>>>>>>> cords
>>>>>>>> fit. Somewhere below?
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=moto+g5+s+plus++micro+usb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=moto+g5+s+plus++"micro+usb+original"&_osacat=0>
>>>>>>>> https://is.gd/Iaf1lC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There seems to be some disagreement about the connector, whether
>>>>>>> it's a
>>>>>>> micro-USB or a USB-C, but either way these days no phone
>>>>>>> manufacturer
>>>>>>> uses a unique USB connector, not even Apple. The spec seems to imply
>>>>>>> 20w
>>>>>>> charging, it would have to be USB-C.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway just ask jonz what he has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonz and I have new phones the cable came with device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, and its a type C... as Keith said, micro cables won`t fit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It does charge VERY fast.
>>>>>> Just have a collection of mobile phone cords various types none fit
>>>>>> except the one that came with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> They won`t.. type C is the go now.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, my mistake
>>>
>>> Magnetic ones are about as well, (you can buy adapters) haven`t tried
>>> them, but seems like a good idea.
>>
>> I have and wouldn’t use anything else now.
>>
>>> Prevents bent pins, and crap getting into the charging port.
>>
>> Yeah, that’s the reason I started using them. Managed to get
>> crap into the lightning port of the iphone 5, likely a fragment
>> of marmalade I have for breakfast and never could get it out.

> Have you tried a bib?

Not for breakfast. I have just used one for the
massive great open sandwich that I do with
the evening meal every 4 days with the bread
done in the bread machine every 4 days but
it doesn’t matter anymore given that all the
stuff that matters now has the magnetic thing
in it permanently and so it cant get in anymore.

<reams of your trollshit flushed where it belongs>

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:54:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>> older Sammy.
>
>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just assisted
>> with building their bank account.
>
>Bet he didn’t and will get the paypal full refund.
>
>I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>
>The scammers make money from those who
>don’t bother to get paypal to do a full refund.

Reply from PayPal
**************
Case closed in your favour

We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
your favour.

We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>> older Sammy.
>>
>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just
>>> assisted
>>> with building their bank account.
>>
>>Bet he didn't and will get the paypal full refund.
>>
>>I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>>the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>
>>The scammers make money from those who
>>don't bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
>
> Reply from PayPal
> **************
> Case closed in your favour
>
> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
> your favour.
>
> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.

Yeah, it's a great system, I use it whenever its available now.

Even available on aliexpress now.

On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 08:32:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>>> older Sammy.
>>>
>>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just
>>>> assisted
>>>> with building their bank account.
>>>
>>>Bet he didn't and will get the paypal full refund.
>>>
>>>I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>>>the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>>
>>>The scammers make money from those who
>>>don't bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
>>
>> Reply from PayPal
>> **************
>> Case closed in your favour
>>
>> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
>> your favour.
>>
>> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
>> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
>> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
>> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
>> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.
>
>Yeah, it's a great system, I use it whenever its available now.
>
>Even available on aliexpress now.
>
Won't buy online from someone that doesn't use it.

Took this on way to doctor yesterday.
<https://ibb.co/Pm0gXST?fbclid=IwAR3WLMPtBrva7BoDbGZV7WVyQiqZuNKZAFl6RgFbG92EyVxEc4y2JVO5lbs>
https://is.gd/1DFvv7
Shows a line of people across road lining up for AZ vaccination cold
wind also.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

On 1/08/2021 7:56 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:54:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>> older Sammy.
>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just assisted
>>> with building their bank account.
>> Bet he didn’t and will get the paypal full refund.
>>
>> I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>> the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>
>> The scammers make money from those who
>> don’t bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
> Reply from PayPal
> **************
> Case closed in your favour
>
> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
> your favour.
>
> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.

just think of the trouble you could have saved yourself if you had
bought from a reputable source. now after weeks (months?) of waiting you
are still at square one with no new phone.

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 11:26:51 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 1/08/2021 7:56 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:54:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>>> older Sammy.
>>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just assisted
>>>> with building their bank account.
>>> Bet he didn’t and will get the paypal full refund.
>>>
>>> I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>>> the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>>
>>> The scammers make money from those who
>>> don’t bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
>> Reply from PayPal
>> **************
>> Case closed in your favour
>>
>> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
>> your favour.
>>
>> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
>> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
>> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
>> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
>> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.
>
>
>just think of the trouble you could have saved yourself if you had
>bought from a reputable source. now after weeks (months?) of waiting you
>are still at square one with no new phone.

I bought a new phone a short while ago, I had my 10 year old one
before that.
Photo good enough as well
Took this on way to doctor yesterday.
<https://ibb.co/Pm0gXST?fbclid=IwAR3WLMPtBrva7BoDbGZV7WVyQiqZuNKZAFl6RgFbG92EyVxEc4y2JVO5lbs>
https://is.gd/1DFvv7
Shows a line of people across road lining up for AZ vaccination cold
wind also.
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

On 1/08/2021 11:49 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 11:26:51 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/08/2021 7:56 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:54:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>>>> older Sammy.
>>>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just assisted
>>>>> with building their bank account.
>>>> Bet he didn’t and will get the paypal full refund.
>>>>
>>>> I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>>>> the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>>>
>>>> The scammers make money from those who
>>>> don’t bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
>>> Reply from PayPal
>>> **************
>>> Case closed in your favour
>>>
>>> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
>>> your favour.
>>>
>>> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
>>> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
>>> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
>>> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
>>> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.
>>
>> just think of the trouble you could have saved yourself if you had
>> bought from a reputable source. now after weeks (months?) of waiting you
>> are still at square one with no new phone.
> I bought a new phone a short while ago, I had my 10 year old one
> before that.
> Photo good enough as well
> Took this on way to doctor yesterday.
> <https://ibb.co/Pm0gXST?fbclid=IwAR3WLMPtBrva7BoDbGZV7WVyQiqZuNKZAFl6RgFbG92EyVxEc4y2JVO5lbs>
> https://is.gd/1DFvv7
> Shows a line of people across road lining up for AZ vaccination cold
> wind also.

what phone did you buy?

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:22:36 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@invalid.com>
wrote:

>On 1/08/2021 11:49 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 11:26:51 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@invalid.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/08/2021 7:56 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:54:07 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> **My 3 year old Oppo works fine with Q codes, as does my partner's even
>>>>>> older Sammy.
>>>>>> I guess you've now realised how the scammers make money. You just assisted
>>>>>> with building their bank account.
>>>>> Bet he didn’t and will get the paypal full refund.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got mine. It did take a while because paypal gives
>>>>> the scammer a while to present their side of the story.
>>>>>
>>>>> The scammers make money from those who
>>>>> don’t bother to get paypal to do a full refund.
>>>> Reply from PayPal
>>>> **************
>>>> Case closed in your favour
>>>>
>>>> We reviewed the case you filed on 17 June 2021 and have decided in
>>>> your favour.
>>>>
>>>> We've issued a refund of $66.98 USD to you. It may take up to 5 days
>>>> for this refund to be reflected on your PayPal account or bank
>>>> account. If you paid using a credit or debit card, the money will be
>>>> refunded to your card. Depending on your card issuer, it can take up
>>>> to 30 days for the refund to appear on your card statement.
>>>
>>> just think of the trouble you could have saved yourself if you had
>>> bought from a reputable source. now after weeks (months?) of waiting you
>>> are still at square one with no new phone.
>> I bought a new phone a short while ago, I had my 10 year old one
>> before that.
>> Photo good enough as well
>> Took this on way to doctor yesterday.
>> <https://ibb.co/Pm0gXST?fbclid=IwAR3WLMPtBrva7BoDbGZV7WVyQiqZuNKZAFl6RgFbG92EyVxEc4y2JVO5lbs>
>> https://is.gd/1DFvv7
>> Shows a line of people across road lining up for AZ vaccination cold
>> wind also.
>
>what phone did you buy?
>
:motorola moto g 5G" plus on Ebay (made in India)
<https://www.ebay.com.au/p/24046968982?iid=393334512981>
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge