Message-ID:

Tis man's perdition to be safe, when for the truth he ought to die.

USB HUB

<seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1732&group=aus.computers#1732

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jon...@nothere.com (jonz)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: USB HUB
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 07:53:07 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="a5b8ed0190d34c6fce5e5e5a03071376";
logging-data="18778"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/IkCWe7klffWsFUQUodyUy"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.12.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:RrojD7OEJepv948Yg8U0pevZXyY=
Content-Language: en-US
X-Mozilla-News-Host: snews://news.eternal-september.org:563

by: jonz - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 07:53 UTC

Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.

Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

Re: USB HUB

<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1734&group=aus.computers#1734

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 11:58:56 +1000
Lines: 18
Message-ID: <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net N4Fuw3cfBsaxwA/8OgW56AUkzMfZafyRkXKrgZzTujHHyv/2UU
Cancel-Lock: sha1:BtNCpjV0rVm5xl/64dgIFbjysuI=
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272

by: Petzl - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 01:58 UTC

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:

>Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.
>
> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......
>
Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.

Is your USB hub powered?
If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

Re: USB HUB

<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1735&group=aus.computers#1735

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: use...@account.invalid (keithr0)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net SLaiTNedyoZhxlRRpVJKnAzkYzUMZny91qndj/QsOe8bUC27Iu
Cancel-Lock: sha1:w7dPtgO8Spfyc0xZR1QSeLXtGqA=
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.11.0
In-Reply-To: <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
Content-Language: en-US

by: keithr0 - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 03:12 UTC

On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>
>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.
>>
>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......
>>
> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.

What the fuck are you talking about?

> Is your USB hub powered?
> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>

Re: USB HUB

<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1736&group=aus.computers#1736

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 19:28:50 +1000
Lines: 29
Message-ID: <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me> <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com> <imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net dzy+tZDTwWlXoFvvPmBmBAyPdn1NkMYHapGnHYZlYtgv9cCA67
Cancel-Lock: sha1:t/3wRxtEQGjcW/1k/L1gYJAblh8=
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272

by: Petzl - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 09:28 UTC

On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.
>>>
>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......
>>>
>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>
>What the fuck are you talking about?
>
You use windows?
if so read what I said
USB devices have on windows always been unreliable

>> Is your USB hub powered?
>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.

Re: USB HUB

<imvvevFu7t0U1@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1737&group=aus.computers#1737

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 03:01:17 +1000
Lines: 29
Message-ID: <imvvevFu7t0U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me> <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com> <imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net> <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
format=flowed;
charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: individual.net Vmtjspo1m4pPdjjy0TsqfwF4x6ZQuLMJiKCTPIATDsHCV6iP8=
Cancel-Lock: sha1:miJg968swpxHzSwQ3SKoa+3WDTI=
In-Reply-To: <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416

by: Rod Speed - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 17:01 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote

>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>> operation.

>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up
>>>> ;)......

>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.

>> What the fuck are you talking about?

> You use windows?
> if so read what I said
> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable

None of mine ever have been.

>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.

Re: USB HUB

<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1738&group=aus.computers#1738

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: use...@account.invalid (keithr0)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:14:00 +1000
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net gdvmtslSPOeQRLYNLFFSfwjYi85pogcOmYGsvQSpRyvXW9llbl
Cancel-Lock: sha1:TrbIMtm7KUZiQrbSPwfcSaqcDPc=
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.11.0
In-Reply-To: <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
Content-Language: en-US

by: keithr0 - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 23:14 UTC

On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.
>>>>
>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......
>>>>
>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>
>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>
> You use windows?
> if so read what I said
> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable

If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup. There
are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with USB devices.

>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>>

Re: USB HUB

<b98mggd5hktqrjf12monf32n5bltddangh@4ax.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1739&group=aus.computers#1739

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2021 09:25:22 +1000
Lines: 41
Message-ID: <b98mggd5hktqrjf12monf32n5bltddangh@4ax.com>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me> <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com> <imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net> <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com> <in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net /Vaa1J9EnKFIHDrBFI19xQWh3CZpZDK6P4EXXkUGbXC2VDwWDV
Cancel-Lock: sha1:NIPjg19QWissjRkVJA6o+LFW5RA=
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272

by: Petzl - Wed, 4 Aug 2021 23:25 UTC

On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:14:00 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:

>On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been playing
>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been using
>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up ;)......
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>
>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>
>> You use windows?
>> if so read what I said
>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>
>If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup. There
>are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with USB devices.
>
Mine mainly mostly work but do disconect after some months of working
fine. A lot of times it is the powere supplies to USB hubs
None Hub conections (connect direct to PPC) I don't have problems
with.
>
>>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>>>
--
Petzl
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.

Re: USB HUB

<seg25n$n7j$1@dont-email.me>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1741&group=aus.computers#1741

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jon...@nothere.com (jonz)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:57:57 +1000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 52
Message-ID: <seg25n$n7j$1@dont-email.me>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 06:58:00 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="d315a9462ce30a028510ad9d50cc5c69";
logging-data="23795"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+j2VHd+qm8Id+nTjBGK+OF"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.12.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:HeOiKfPjM0wHHzYjGEEFCGEqVEA=
In-Reply-To: <in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
Content-Language: en-US

by: jonz - Thu, 5 Aug 2021 06:57 UTC

On 8/5/2021 9:14 AM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>> playing
>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>>> operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been
>>>>> using
>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up
>>>>> ;)......
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>
>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>
>> You use windows?
>> if so read what I said
>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>
> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with
> USB devices.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As I set at the get-go the hub was at least 15yrs old. A cheapy in the
first place. Stood on years ago, and held together with a cable tie.

A good innings I think. My post was more as something to look at if
you`re having slow boot and run problems and all else is (apparently) OK.

>
>
>>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>>>
>

Re: USB HUB

<ee9nggptctk0jpao4gbunk46emajhq1d2q@4ax.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1742&group=aus.computers#1742

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: pet...@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2021 18:48:52 +1000
Lines: 53
Message-ID: <ee9nggptctk0jpao4gbunk46emajhq1d2q@4ax.com>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me> <npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com> <imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net> <oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com> <in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net> <seg25n$n7j$1@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net T5q1BBjfmAlMf6n339bgCg/t4JBk8iIyb0FIvTqEkx6LBuhUv1
Cancel-Lock: sha1:x+zO8SaE4nu5D9WpE6m0mqv1O8I=
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272

by: Petzl - Thu, 5 Aug 2021 08:48 UTC

On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 16:57:57 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:

>On 8/5/2021 9:14 AM, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>>> playing
>>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up
>>>>>> ;)......
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>
>>> You use windows?
>>> if so read what I said
>>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>>
>> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
>> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with
>> USB devices.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> As I set at the get-go the hub was at least 15yrs old. A cheapy in the
>first place. Stood on years ago, and held together with a cable tie.
>
> A good innings I think. My post was more as something to look at if
>you`re having slow boot and run problems and all else is (apparently) OK.
>
Good advice
>>
>>
>>>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>>>>
>>
--
Petzl
"When you let people into your country that hate everything about you and your heritage,
there's a good chance they will kill you."

Re: USB HUB

<j8ipgg1qtkv6h3sd7bo56niqi7pupi3qd3@4ax.com>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1743&group=aus.computers#1743

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: pj...@jostle.com (Peter Jason)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2021 15:40:30 +1000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <j8ipgg1qtkv6h3sd7bo56niqi7pupi3qd3@4ax.com>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="4e2460865abf7e19437b3134d3ab7495";
logging-data="30404"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19/iFpGER3TbZKu2Xh/6c0z"
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:lkERnwfke55OmiJF9DkZDM2C+YU=

by: Peter Jason - Fri, 6 Aug 2021 05:40 UTC

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:

I use this powered one...
https://cdn.webshopapp.com/shops/172646/files/181459748/orico-aluminum-usb30-hub-with-10-ports-silver.jpg
..... that's been working well for 3 years.
It runs off a NUC computer with thunderbolt (for video).
From that hub I run backup drives, umpteen thumb drives, one of
these...
https://imgaz3.staticbg.com/thumb/large/oaupload/ser1/banggood/images/10/79/6a5b8f92-a2f4-4165-9100-f133bdcaf9f3.jpg

All this allows flexibility on desk space, though gamers might have
different priorities.

Re: USB HUB

<in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1746&group=aus.computers#1746

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: fel...@invalid.com (Yosemite Sam)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:58:14 +1000
Lines: 46
Message-ID: <in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net HZR3/SYQZJ9CQPyjftdsmwHmhAo06IEMEx5dcRSM7bRDhPnuNl
Cancel-Lock: sha1:CBVupHrIqX3kvLNEk0TJOM8jPKU=
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.12.0
In-Reply-To: <in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net>
Content-Language: en-US

by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 7 Aug 2021 14:58 UTC

On 5/08/2021 9:14 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>> playing
>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>>> operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been
>>>>> using
>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up
>>>>> ;)......
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>
>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>
>> You use windows?
>> if so read what I said
>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>
> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with
> USB devices.
>

when USB was first introduced, there were lots of problems with it
getting things to connect

>>>> Is your USB hub powered?
>>>> If so try unpluging power just use the PC's power supplied.
>>>>
>

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

Re: USB HUB

<in8jb0Fnb61U1@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1747&group=aus.computers#1747

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.uzoreto.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: use...@account.invalid (keithr0)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 09:29:34 +1000
Lines: 39
Message-ID: <in8jb0Fnb61U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net> <in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net N11ho/zrYYcSHkzSO6dPOAWM5SIkuGN4FER1pxVQ+Ho02qGfQd
Cancel-Lock: sha1:kWrKdmM96qAT0hIUPELjr6NnEC8=
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.11.0
In-Reply-To: <in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>
Content-Language: en-US

by: keithr0 - Sat, 7 Aug 2021 23:29 UTC

On 8/08/2021 12:58 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 5/08/2021 9:14 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>>> playing
>>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads up
>>>>>> ;)......
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their cloud
>>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>
>>> You use windows?
>>> if so read what I said
>>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>>
>> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
>> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with
>> USB devices.
>>
>
> when USB was first introduced, there were lots of problems with it
> getting things to connect

You mean back in 1997? Things have changed a bit in the intervening 24
years.

Re: USB HUB

<in8r45FopblU1@mid.individual.net>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1748&group=aus.computers#1748

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!lilly.ping.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: fel...@invalid.com (Yosemite Sam)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 11:42:59 +1000
Lines: 50
Message-ID: <in8r45FopblU1@mid.individual.net>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net> <in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>
<in8jb0Fnb61U1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: individual.net cT2eWDfyRMzNp4X5wfYg1w2IvKln+P61dToiu1W+YLMoltA5IU
Cancel-Lock: sha1:3hBb1MGKFmwZKaq6ZFmWFDBY9lQ=
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.12.0
In-Reply-To: <in8jb0Fnb61U1@mid.individual.net>
Content-Language: en-US

by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 8 Aug 2021 01:42 UTC

On 8/08/2021 9:29 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 8/08/2021 12:58 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 5/08/2021 9:14 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness during
>>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had been
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads
>>>>>>> up ;)......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their
>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>>
>>>> You use windows?
>>>> if so read what I said
>>>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>>>
>>> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
>>> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem with
>>> USB devices.
>>>
>>
>> when USB was first introduced, there were lots of problems with it
>> getting things to connect
>
> You mean back in 1997? Things have changed a bit in the intervening 24
> years.

the problems persisted during a few iterations of windoze

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

Re: USB HUB

<senm8a$uin$1@dont-email.me>

copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1749&group=aus.computers#1749

copy link Newsgroups: aus.computers

Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jon...@nothere.com (jonz)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: USB HUB
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 14:23:39 +1000
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 59
Message-ID: <senm8a$uin$1@dont-email.me>
References: <seasl3$iaq$1@dont-email.me>
<npsjgg9joo2bl0hbi3hbkcclhqdhn02iai@4ax.com>
<imuesfFkcv4U4@mid.individual.net>
<oankggtgvrluna77e94nf4j05dalacc6jk@4ax.com>
<in0l9nF4147U1@mid.individual.net> <in7lbdFhc42U1@mid.individual.net>
<in8jb0Fnb61U1@mid.individual.net> <in8r45FopblU1@mid.individual.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 04:23:38 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7b27f6a6a17bf82cc9d2c690186c184c";
logging-data="31319"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/x5NPcapsVUj1uNBl+FPdF"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.12.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:jVKUG5u6heUEJZI8hGMNIKJHr2I=
In-Reply-To: <in8r45FopblU1@mid.individual.net>
Content-Language: en-US

by: jonz - Sun, 8 Aug 2021 04:23 UTC

On 8/8/2021 11:42 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 8/08/2021 9:29 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 8/08/2021 12:58 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 5/08/2021 9:14 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 4/08/2021 7:28 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 13:12:15 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/08/2021 11:58 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:53:04 +1000, jonz <jonz@nothere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Over the last six months or so my computer (a bitzer) has been
>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>> up in various ways. Mainly slow boot and general slowness
>>>>>>>> during operation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then it started taking up to 5 mins to boot into Bios. On
>>>>>>>> unplugging peripherals found that an ancient USB hub (i had
>>>>>>>> been using
>>>>>>>> for at least 15yrs) was causing *all* the problems.Just a heads
>>>>>>>> up ;)......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like a WIN10 feature, Microsoft want you to pay for their
>>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>> spyware feature, common for USB drives to mystically stop working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You use windows?
>>>>> if so read what I said
>>>>> USB devices have on windows always been unreliable
>>>>
>>>> If that is your experience, you must have an extremely crap setup.
>>>> There are 4 windows machines here, none have ever had a problem
>>>> with USB devices.
>>>>
>>>
>>> when USB was first introduced, there were lots of problems with it
>>> getting things to connect
>>
>> You mean back in 1997? Things have changed a bit in the intervening
>> 24 years.
>
>
> the problems persisted during a few iterations of windoze

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Zero problems here!.

>
>
>

Subject	Author
USB HUB	jonz
Re: USB HUB	Petzl
Re: USB HUB	keithr0
Re: USB HUB	Petzl
Re: USB HUB	Rod Speed
Re: USB HUB	keithr0
Re: USB HUB	Petzl
Re: USB HUB	jonz
Re: USB HUB	Petzl
Re: USB HUB	Yosemite Sam
Re: USB HUB	keithr0
Re: USB HUB	Yosemite Sam
Re: USB HUB	jonz
Re: USB HUB	Peter Jason

Tis man's perdition to be safe, when for the truth he ought to die.

aus+uk / aus.computers / USB HUB