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From: correspo...@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com (Martin S Taylor)
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Subject: Spelling check
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2023 11:21:46 +0100
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by: Martin S Taylor - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:21 UTC

A bit of a rant...

Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.

Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
it off for every new document I create.

Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
global option?

What thoughts?

Martin S Taylor

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by: Sara Merriman - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 13:23 UTC

On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
<correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:

> A bit of a rant...
>
> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>
> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
> it off for every new document I create.
>
> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
> global option?
>
> What thoughts?
>
> Martin S Taylor

Oh heavens yes, I entirely agree.

And other things tht treat you like an idiot - for example, in Mail I may use
the word 'attachment' in an email, then before it will let me send the email
it tells me I haven't added an attachment. I don't need that much nannying. I
can spell. I know what I want to do.

I don't know how to make it all stop.

--
Spike is a sturdy birdy

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From: alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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Subject: Re: Spelling check
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by: Alan B - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 05:51 UTC

Sara Merriman <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:
> On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
> <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:
>
>> A bit of a rant...
>>
>> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
>> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
>> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>>
>> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
>> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
>> it off for every new document I create.
>>
>> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
>> global option?
>>
>> What thoughts?
>>
>> Martin S Taylor
>
> Oh heavens yes, I entirely agree.
>
> And other things tht treat you like an idiot - for example, in Mail I may use
> the word 'attachment' in an email, then before it will let me send the email
> it tells me I haven't added an attachment. I don't need that much nannying. I
> can spell. I know what I want to do.
>
> I don't know how to make it all stop.

My particular gripe is the insistence on changing the possessive its to
it’s as I type.

--
Cheers, Alan

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From: watcombe...@yahoo.co.uk (John Hill)
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by: John Hill - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:30 UTC

On 8 Aug 2023 at 06:51:34 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Sara Merriman <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:
>> On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
>> <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A bit of a rant...
>>>
>>> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
>>> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
>>> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>>>
>>> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
>>> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
>>> it off for every new document I create.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
>>> global option?
>>>
>>> What thoughts?
>>>
>>> Martin S Taylor
>>
>> Oh heavens yes, I entirely agree.
>>
>> And other things tht treat you like an idiot - for example, in Mail I may use
>> the word 'attachment' in an email, then before it will let me send the email
>> it tells me I haven't added an attachment. I don't need that much nannying. I
>> can spell. I know what I want to do.
>>
>> I don't know how to make it all stop.
>
> My particular gripe is the insistence on changing the possessive its to
> it’s as I type.

That, and things like it, are a PITA.

But in general I get really fed up with computers nannying me. But see the sig
below…
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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by: Alan B - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:42 UTC

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 8 Aug 2023 at 06:51:34 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Sara Merriman <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>> On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
>>> <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A bit of a rant...
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
>>>> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
>>>> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>>>>
>>>> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
>>>> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
>>>> it off for every new document I create.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
>>>> global option?
>>>>
>>>> What thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Martin S Taylor
>>>
>>> Oh heavens yes, I entirely agree.
>>>
>>> And other things tht treat you like an idiot - for example, in Mail I may use
>>> the word 'attachment' in an email, then before it will let me send the email
>>> it tells me I haven't added an attachment. I don't need that much nannying. I
>>> can spell. I know what I want to do.
>>>
>>> I don't know how to make it all stop.
>>
>> My particular gripe is the insistence on changing the possessive its to
>> it’s as I type.
>
> That, and things like it, are a PITA.
>
> But in general I get really fed up with computers nannying me. But see the sig
> below…

“Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you
want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you
tell them to do. “

Yes, I totally agree. (Or should that be “I agree totally”?

--
Cheers, Alan

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by: TimH - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 15:15 UTC

On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
<correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:

Oh god yes. It's incredibly irritating.
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by: Bruce Horrocks - Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:11 UTC

On 07/08/2023 11:21, Martin S Taylor wrote:
> A bit of a rant...
>
> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>
> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
> it off for every new document I create.
>
> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
> global option?
>
> What thoughts?

Equally stupidly...

Ventura has an option System Settings > Keyboard > Edit... (under input
sources) > Correct spelling automatically which, if you untick it, stops
the behaviour where it takes a word with an obvious typo and replaces it
with a word that you definitely didn't want.

And it does so fairly discreetly so unless you are a touch typist and
able to look at the screen constantly you don't always notice. If I
could touch-type well enough to be able to look at the screen all the
time then I wouldn't need that function!

And in Pages I don't seem to be able to turn off the spelling check at
all. I can turn off auto-correct but mis-spelt are still highlighted
with red squiggles.

--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey, England

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by: David Brooks - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 08:01 UTC

On 08/08/2023 14:42, Alan B wrote:
> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 8 Aug 2023 at 06:51:34 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sara Merriman <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7 Aug 2023 at 11:21:46 BST, "Martin S Taylor"
>>>> <correspondence@mRaErMtOiVnEsTtHaIySlor.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A bit of a rant...
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it time Apple put the 'Check Spelling While Typing' option as a global
>>>>> setting in the System Settings? I can spell. I don't want every application
>>>>> to underline a word in red just because it isn't in the system dictionary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many applications let me turn this off once and for always, but it's still
>>>>> set by default for every new app I try. Other applications insist that I turn
>>>>> it off for every new document I create.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any reason why it has to be set by the app? Why can't it just be a
>>>>> global option?
>>>>>
>>>>> What thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin S Taylor
>>>>
>>>> Oh heavens yes, I entirely agree.
>>>>
>>>> And other things tht treat you like an idiot - for example, in Mail I may use
>>>> the word 'attachment' in an email, then before it will let me send the email
>>>> it tells me I haven't added an attachment. I don't need that much nannying. I
>>>> can spell. I know what I want to do.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how to make it all stop.
>>>
>>> My particular gripe is the insistence on changing the possessive its to
>>> it’s as I type.
>>
>> That, and things like it, are a PITA.
>>
>> But in general I get really fed up with computers nannying me. But see the sig
>> below…
>
> “Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you
> want them to do.
> Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you
> tell them to do. “
>
> Yes, I totally agree. (Or should that be “I agree totally”?

I agree too! 🙂

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David
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A bug in the hand is better than one as yet undetected.

aus+uk / uk.comp.sys.mac / Re: Spelling check

Subject	Author
Spelling check	Martin S Taylor
Re: Spelling check	Sara Merriman
Re: Spelling check	Alan B
Re: Spelling check	John Hill
Re: Spelling check	Alan B
Re: Spelling check	David Brooks
Re: Spelling check	TimH
Re: Spelling check	Bruce Horrocks