Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
turn and why?...
a) Neither.
b) Inner.
c) Outer

--
John H

On 1/8/2022 8:31 am, John_H wrote:
> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
> turn and why?...
> a) Neither.
> b) Inner.
> c) Outer
>
Assuming both wheels have equal traction my guess is the inner wheel
gets the most power because its turning slightly faster (power equals
torque times revs).

--
Daryl

On 1/8/2022 9:16 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 1/8/2022 8:31 am, John_H wrote:
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>>
> Assuming both wheels have equal traction my guess is the inner wheel
> gets the most power because its turning slightly faster (power equals
> torque times revs).
>
Huh??????

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 1/08/2022 7:16 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 1/8/2022 8:31 am, John_H wrote:
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>>
> Assuming both wheels have equal traction my guess is the inner wheel
> gets the most power because its turning slightly faster (power equals
> torque times revs).
>

That does not compute!

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

John_H wrote:
>
>Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>turn and why?...
>a) Neither.
>b) Inner.
>c) Outer

It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).

The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
be c.

--
John H

On 3/08/2022 7:48 am, John_H wrote:
> John_H wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>
> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>
> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
> be c.
>

According to Daryl it's B and NoddyLiar is still Googling.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 8/3/2022 9:48 AM, John_H wrote:
> John_H wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes, that`s a given!,When that question was put here years ago, most
shied away. The ones that did reply mostly cried *bullshit*..
I put the same question a few years later, with the same result!. <G>

but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>
> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>
> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
> be c.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It aint necessarily so!..... Tho it *could* be!..
>

On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
> John_H wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>
> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>
> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
> be c.

Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
> John_H wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>> turn and why?...
>> a) Neither.
>> b) Inner.
>> c) Outer
>
> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>
> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
> be c.
>
Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
from the get go.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/8/2022 11:26 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 3/08/2022 7:48 am, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>>
>
> According to Daryl it's B and NoddyLiar is still Googling.
>
I'm not surprised Darren didn't provide an answer. He still can't
differentiate between torque and power.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/8/2022 12:02 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>
> Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q
>
Seems to disagree being the operative phrase. It only seems like that to
you because you *still* don't get the difference between *power* and
*torque*. Congratulations, you've just *proven* why you couldn't cut the
mustard as an apprenticeship applicant.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Noddy wrote:
>On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>
>Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q

Then you really don't have a clue.

He's talking about the torque split in a locked diff vs open diff (no
mention of the power split). He's 100% correct.

Obviously you don't know the difference.

Also 100% correct....
https://www.rrtransmissions.com/technical/open-locked-differentials

--
John H

JONZ wrote:
>On 8/3/2022 9:48 AM, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Yes, that`s a given!,When that question was put here years ago, most
>shied away. The ones that did reply mostly cried *bullshit*..
> I put the same question a few years later, with the same result!. <G>

Someone should tell Noddy! :)

> but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> It aint necessarily so!..... Tho it *could* be!..

It's absolutely so (barring hypotheticals)!

Even the bloke Noddy says disagrees with me, but doesn't, says so.
Since the torque split is 50/50 it logically follows the power split
will be greater than 50/50 at the fastest moving wheel.

--
John H

Xeno wrote:
>On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>>
>Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
>amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
>from the get go.

Indeed he should've, since he understands that P=T x rpm. Obviously
didn't think it through. Mechanics are taught this stuff (at least
they used to be), whether they actually understand it is something
else

--
John H

On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>> turn and why?...
>>>> a) Neither.
>>>> b) Inner.
>>>> c) Outer
>>>
>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>
>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>> be c.
>>
>> Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q
>
> Then you really don't have a clue.

It was obvious to me quite a long time ago. No one believed me then. I
trust they do now.
>
> He's talking about the torque split in a locked diff vs open diff (no
> mention of the power split). He's 100% correct.
>
> Obviously you don't know the difference.

Quite obviously.
>
> Also 100% correct....
> https://www.rrtransmissions.com/technical/open-locked-differentials
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> JONZ wrote:
>> On 8/3/2022 9:48 AM, John_H wrote:
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>> between drive wheels
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Yes, that`s a given!,When that question was put here years ago, most
>> shied away. The ones that did reply mostly cried *bullshit*..
>> I put the same question a few years later, with the same result!. <G>
>
> Someone should tell Noddy! :)
>
>> but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>> turn and why?...
>>>> a) Neither.
>>>> b) Inner.
>>>> c) Outer
>>>
>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>
>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>> be c.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> It aint necessarily so!..... Tho it *could* be!..
>
> It's absolutely so (barring hypotheticals)!
>
> Even the bloke Noddy says disagrees with me, but doesn't, says so.
> Since the torque split is 50/50 it logically follows the power split
> will be greater than 50/50 at the fastest moving wheel.
>
Darren has no clue on the difference between power and torque, so
there's that!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>> turn and why?...
>>>> a) Neither.
>>>> b) Inner.
>>>> c) Outer
>>>
>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>
>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>> be c.
>>>
>> Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
>> amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
>>from the get go.
>
> Indeed he should've, since he understands that P=T x rpm. Obviously
> didn't think it through. Mechanics are taught this stuff (at least
> they used to be), whether they actually understand it is something
> else
>
I did trade maths and trade science in my apprenticeship. It was all
there, and I started my time before Daryl. So he should have got the
message. I started my time in Tasmania in the late 60s, he started his
in Victoria in the early 70s, maybe that is the difference?

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>> turn and why?...
>>>> a) Neither.
>>>> b) Inner.
>>>> c) Outer
>>>
>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>
>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>> be c.
>>>
>> Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
>> amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
>>from the get go.
>
> Indeed he should've, since he understands that P=T x rpm. Obviously
> didn't think it through.

LOL, what answer did I give, I thought I said c?
If I didn't it was a typo because c being having more rpm is what I meant.

Mechanics are taught this stuff (at least
> they used to be), whether they actually understand it is something
> else
>
I learnt a bit about torque via tractor transmissions, at Ford back in
the 80's they had a problem with a particular trans breaking, to fix the
problem they changed the internal gearing so that the problematic shafts
and gears were spinning faster thereby reducing the torque load.

--
Daryl

On 3/08/2022 10:02 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>> John_H wrote:
>>>
>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>> turn and why?...
>>> a) Neither.
>>> b) Inner.
>>> c) Outer
>>
>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>
>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>> be c.
>
> Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q
>
>

Where in that video does he mention power? He speaks of torque. Since
torque is split evenly but the outside wheel rotates faster, clearly the
power applied to the outside wheel is greater as per the equation.

Fucking hell... and you wonder why qualified people recognise you as a
fraud...

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/08/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> On 3/08/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>>> turn and why?...
>>>>> a) Neither.
>>>>> b) Inner.
>>>>> c) Outer
>>>>
>>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>>
>>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>>> be c.
>>>
>>> Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q
>>
>> Then you really don't have a clue.
>
> It was obvious to me quite a long time ago. No one believed me then. I
> trust they do now.
>>
>> He's talking about the torque split in a locked diff vs open diff (no
>> mention of the power split).  He's 100% correct.
>>
>> Obviously you don't know the difference.
>
> Quite obviously.

Indeed. The fraud doesn't understand the difference between torque and
power and Daryl can't even figure out that the outer wheel is spinning
faster, not the inner.

What a pair of fucking useless numpties.

>>
>> Also 100% correct....
>> https://www.rrtransmissions.com/technical/open-locked-differentials
>>
>
>

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/08/2022 11:55 am, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>> turn and why?...
>>>> a) Neither.
>>>> b) Inner.
>>>> c) Outer
>>>
>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>
>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>> be c.
>>>
>> Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
>> amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
>>from the get go.
>
> Indeed he should've, since he understands that P=T x rpm. Obviously
> didn't think it through. Mechanics are taught this stuff (at least
> they used to be), whether they actually understand it is something
> else
>

They do if the pass an apprenticeship and get their trade certificate,
at least in WA and NSW. The fraud never has but Dazzler ought to have
known. Then again, he has been out of the loop for some time and maybe
didn't think it through.

The fraud is completely clueless as you would expect from someone who
has never completed an automotive apprenticeship, he can't even
comprehend the equation and what is being explained in the video he
offered up. What a fucking idiot.

I hope the "village idiot" is paying attention to this.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/08/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:

>>
>> Take it up with this guy, as he seems to disagree with you.
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJEU7p9U2Q
>
> Then you really don't have a clue.
Is that right, Mr power to weight has nothing to do with acceleration in
any gear? :)

ROTFL :)

--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 3/08/2022 1:11 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2022 9:48 am, John_H wrote:
>>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>>> between drive wheels but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>>> turn and why?...
>>>>> a) Neither.
>>>>> b) Inner.
>>>>> c) Outer
>>>>
>>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>>
>>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>>> be c.
>>>>
>>> Yep, the outer wheel, in turning faster, did more work. I did feel very
>>> amused (and bemused) by Daryl's answer. He should have got that right
>>> from the get go.
>>
>> Indeed he should've, since he understands that P=T x rpm.  Obviously
>> didn't think it  through.
>
> LOL, what answer did I give, I thought I said c?

You said the inner wheel was spinning faster you goose... jesus.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/08/2022 12:17 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 3/8/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
>> JONZ wrote:
>>> On 8/3/2022 9:48 AM, John_H wrote:
>>>> John_H wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully most here will know that an open diff splits torque equally
>>>>> between drive wheels
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>   Yes, that`s a given!,When that question was put here years ago, most
>>> shied away. The ones that did reply mostly cried *bullshit*..
>>>    I put the same question a few years later, with the same result!. <G>
>>
>> Someone should tell Noddy!  :)
>>
>>>   but which wheel, if any, gets the most power on a
>>>>> turn and why?...
>>>>> a) Neither.
>>>>> b) Inner.
>>>>> c) Outer
>>>>
>>>> It's a simple straightforward question (lest some think otherwise).
>>>>
>>>> The outside wheel travels furthest on a turn (and therefore rotates
>>>> faster), and since power = torque x rpm (or distance) the answer must
>>>> be c.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   It aint necessarily so!..... Tho it *could* be!..
>>
>> It's absolutely so (barring hypotheticals)!
>>
>> Even the bloke Noddy says disagrees with me, but doesn't, says so.
>> Since the torque split is 50/50 it logically follows the power split
>> will be greater than 50/50 at the fastest moving wheel.
>>
> Darren has no clue on the difference between power and torque, so
> there's that!
>

Proven too!

Jonz is clueless but pretending otherwise, and failed! "It aint
necessarily so!..... Tho it *could* be!" he says :-)

Oh look, none on team FLCJC understand something mechanics are taught.
What a surprise.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 3/08/2022 1:55 pm, John_H wrote:
> JONZ wrote:

>> Yes, that`s a given!,When that question was put here years ago, most
>> shied away. The ones that did reply mostly cried *bullshit*..
>> I put the same question a few years later, with the same result!. <G>
>
> Someone should tell Noddy! :)

Really? Tell me what? That the only reason you posted this question,
which has been done to death here a number of times, in the first place
was as an attempt to save face after you'd demonstrated a clear lack of
understanding of the relationship between force and mass with regards to
acceleration?

Did you bother to read the link I posted for you, or are you going to
insist that's wrong as well? :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.