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by: David Kennedy - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:13 UTC

Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
warning every time they are plugged in?
Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...

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by: Jörg Lorenz - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:25 UTC

Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
> warning every time they are plugged in?
> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...

1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
or
2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
in the Finder.

(I use a German interface)

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by: David Kennedy - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:40 UTC

On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>
> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
> or

Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.

> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
> in the Finder.
>
> (I use a German interface)
>

I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.

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by: Chris Ridd - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 17:52 UTC

On 28/09/2023 13:40, David Kennedy wrote:
> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't
>>> incur this
>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all
>>> was fine
>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted
>>> things...
>>
>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>> or
>
> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>
>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>> in the Finder.
>>
>> (I use a German interface)

It is this second option that prompts the phone each time to Trust/Don't
Trust. Utter PITA.

>
> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.

If you set it to not sync automatically, does it connect without
prompting and then let you click the Sync Now button?

--
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by: David Kennedy - Thu, 28 Sep 2023 19:21 UTC

On 28/09/2023 18:52, Chris Ridd wrote:
> On 28/09/2023 13:40, David Kennedy wrote:
>> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>>>
>>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>>> or
>>
>> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>>
>>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>>> in the Finder.
>>>
>>> (I use a German interface)
>
> It is this second option that prompts the phone each time to Trust/Don't
> Trust. Utter PITA.
>
Correct!
>>
>> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.
>
> If you set it to not sync automatically, does it connect without prompting and
> then let you click the Sync Now button?
>
No.

I can't seem to find a work around and fail to see why, if left connected and
I trust the damn computer in the morning, it needs to ask again in the
afternoon...

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by: Ant - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:45 UTC

David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/09/2023 18:52, Chris Ridd wrote:
> > On 28/09/2023 13:40, David Kennedy wrote:
> >> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
> >>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
> >>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
> >>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
> >>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
> >>>
> >>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
> >>> or
> >>
> >> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
> >>
> >>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
> >>> in the Finder.
> >>>
> >>> (I use a German interface)
> >
> > It is this second option that prompts the phone each time to Trust/Don't
> > Trust. Utter PITA.
> >
> Correct!
> >>
> >> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.
> >
> > If you set it to not sync automatically, does it connect without prompting and
> > then let you click the Sync Now button?
> >
> No.

> I can't seem to find a work around and fail to see why, if left connected and
> I trust the damn computer in the morning, it needs to ask again in the
> afternoon...

I see this too. Annoying.
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by: John Hill - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:23 UTC

On 29 Sep 2023 at 02:45:08 BST, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:

> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 28/09/2023 18:52, Chris Ridd wrote:
>>> On 28/09/2023 13:40, David Kennedy wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>>>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>>>>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>>>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>>>>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>>>>> in the Finder.
>>>>>
>>>>> (I use a German interface)
>>>
>>> It is this second option that prompts the phone each time to Trust/Don't
>>> Trust. Utter PITA.
>>>
>> Correct!
>>>>
>>>> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.
>>>
>>> If you set it to not sync automatically, does it connect without prompting and
>>> then let you click the Sync Now button?
>>>
>> No.
>
>> I can't seem to find a work around and fail to see why, if left connected and
>> I trust the damn computer in the morning, it needs to ask again in the
>> afternoon...
>
> I see this too. Annoying.

What happens if you check "Show this phone when on WiFi"? It does enable you
to backup without a USB connection if the iPhone is on and in range - I've
just tried it - but you still have to authorise the backup on the phone with
your pin.

I only chose this option a couple of days ago and haven't tried a backup with
a USB yet.

John.

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by: John Hill - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:40 UTC

On 28 Sep 2023 at 13:40:42 BST, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>>
>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>> or
>
> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>
>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>> in the Finder.
>>
>> (I use a German interface)
>>
>
> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.

So do I, but on the iMac I have "Back up your most important data on your
iPhone to iCloud" selected and use "Back Up Now" to backup to the computer
manually. Seems to work.

John.
--
Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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by: David Kennedy - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:43 UTC

On 29/09/2023 09:23, John Hill wrote:
> On 29 Sep 2023 at 02:45:08 BST, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>
>> David Kennedy <davidkennedygm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 28/09/2023 18:52, Chris Ridd wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/2023 13:40, David Kennedy wrote:
>>>>> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>>>>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>>>>>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>>>>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>>>>>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>>>>>> in the Finder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I use a German interface)
>>>>
>>>> It is this second option that prompts the phone each time to Trust/Don't
>>>> Trust. Utter PITA.
>>>>
>>> Correct!
>>>>>
>>>>> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.
>>>>
>>>> If you set it to not sync automatically, does it connect without prompting and
>>>> then let you click the Sync Now button?
>>>>
>>> No.
>>
>>> I can't seem to find a work around and fail to see why, if left connected and
>>> I trust the damn computer in the morning, it needs to ask again in the
>>> afternoon...
>>
>> I see this too. Annoying.
>
> What happens if you check "Show this phone when on WiFi"? It does enable you
> to backup without a USB connection if the iPhone is on and in range - I've
> just tried it - but you still have to authorise the backup on the phone with
> your pin.
>
Still the same faffing around. I had thought that might work
> I only chose this option a couple of days ago and haven't tried a backup with
> a USB yet.
>
> John.
>

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by: David Kennedy - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:44 UTC

On 29/09/2023 09:40, John Hill wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2023 at 13:40:42 BST, "David Kennedy" <davidkennedygm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 28/09/2023 09:25, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 28.09.23 um 09:13 schrieb David Kennedy:
>>>> Is there a way to enable backups from your idevices that doesn't incur this
>>>> warning every time they are plugged in?
>>>> Used to be that once you had agreed to trust the wretched thing all was fine
>>>> but these days Finder keeps on telling me to unlock the blasted things...
>>>
>>> 1. Use iCloud and Wifi for this purpose.
>>> or
>>
>> Which I do. but when I plug in the phone this annoying message appears.
>>
>>> 2. Tick "Synchronise automatically, when this iPhone is connected"
>>> in the Finder.
>>>
>>> (I use a German interface)
>>>
>>
>> I occasionally want to backup everything to my Mac.
>
> So do I, but on the iMac I have "Back up your most important data on your
> iPhone to iCloud" selected and use "Back Up Now" to backup to the computer
> manually. Seems to work.
>
> John.
>
It does indeed work manually but if I plug the phone in overnight it needs
authorising (or selecting manually)

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by: Chris Ridd - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:19 UTC

That isn't equivalent though. If you encrypt backups made to your Mac,
it'll backup all your accounts and passwords. iCloud backups do not
include those.

--
Chris

Subject	Author
Trust This Computer	David Kennedy
Re: Trust This Computer	Jörg Lorenz
Re: Trust This Computer	David Kennedy
Re: Trust This Computer	Chris Ridd
Re: Trust This Computer	David Kennedy
Re: Trust This Computer	Ant
Re: Trust This Computer	John Hill
Re: Trust This Computer	David Kennedy
Re: Trust This Computer	John Hill
Re: Trust This Computer	David Kennedy
Re: Trust This Computer	Chris Ridd