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* PuseyMax
+* Re: PuseySylvia Else
|+- Re: PuseyRod Speed
|`* Re: PuseyDechucka
| `* Re: PuseyRod Speed
|  `* Re: PuseyMax
|   `- Re: PuseyRod Speed
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+- Re: PuseyPhil Allison
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 by: Max - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:02 UTC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402

Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.

Why wasn't he granted bail initially? All he did was record himself
saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident. Why was he
sentenced to jail time for what he did?

Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
force.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:55 UTC

On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>
>
> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>
> Why wasn't he granted bail initially?  All he did was record himself
> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident.  Why was he
> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>
> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
> force.

I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even exist
in Australia.

Sylvia.

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 by: News 2021 - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:44 UTC

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:02:08 +1000, Max scribed:

> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-
filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>
> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>
> Why wasn't he granted bail initially? All he did was record himself
> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident. Why was he
> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>
> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
> force.

Plod has paid this one well, just before time served is up,they bring out
the other charges they have previously considered. Fsck him, he is an
arsehole. his behaviour created the set up and he went out of his way to
make an arsehole of himself. Apparently he as a record of similar driving
behaviour, so like the "
sovereign citizen" nutters. I'm happy for plod to keep hm locked up.

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:34 UTC

Max wrote:
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> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>
> Why wasn't he granted bail initially?
>

** He was out on bail for assault at the time.
He breached his bail conditions and ( all things considered) could not be trusted not to do so again.

The guy is totally mental.
Watch what he does next.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:07 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402

> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.

> Why wasn't he granted bail initially?

Because most were outraged at his behaviour.

> All he did was record himself saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an
> accident. Why was he sentenced to jail time for what he did?

Because most are outraged at his behaviour.

> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
> force.

Nothing to do with the police force except that it was those who died.

This is the judicial system, stupid.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:09 UTC

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>>
>> Why wasn't he granted bail initially? All he did was record himself
>> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident. Why was he
>> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>>
>> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
>> force.
>
> I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even exist
> in Australia.

Basically to get it over and done with instead of being
stuck in jail for years with a mega legal shit fight.

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 by: Dechucka - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:22 UTC

On 28/04/2021 6:55 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>>
>>
>> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>>
>> Why wasn't he granted bail initially?  All he did was record himself
>> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident.  Why was he
>> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>>
>> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the
>> police force.
>
> I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even exist
> in Australia.

It is a common law offence and has been prosecuted in the past in
Victoria. A very strange law imho because it seems open to so much
interpretation.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:33 UTC

"Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 28/04/2021 6:55 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>>>
>>> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>>>
>>> Why wasn't he granted bail initially? All he did was record himself
>>> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident. Why was he
>>> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>>>
>>> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the police
>>> force.
>>
>> I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even exist
>> in Australia.
>
> It is a common law offence and has been prosecuted in the past in
> Victoria. A very strange law imho because it seems open to so much
> interpretation.

There is no real alternative because it would be
impossible to spell out precisely what is proscribed.

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 by: Max - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 00:19 UTC

On 30/04/2021 7:33 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kNKdnSy3UeIbvhb9nZ2dnUU7-KXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>> On 28/04/2021 6:55 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>>>>
>>>> Why wasn't he granted bail initially?  All he did was record himself
>>>> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident.  Why was he
>>>> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>>>>
>>>> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the
>>>> police force.
>>>
>>> I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even
>>> exist in Australia.
>>
>> It is a common law offence and has been prosecuted in the past in
>> Victoria. A very strange law imho because it seems open to so much
>> interpretation.
>
> There is no real alternative because it would be
> impossible to spell out precisely what is proscribed.

Is it better to have a mixture of common law and criminal code for
criminal law like there is in Vic and NSW, or is it better to have
purely a criminal code (no common law) like in Qld and WA?

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 30 Apr 2021 00:25 UTC

"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message news:s6fif4$1hth$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 30/04/2021 7:33 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:kNKdnSy3UeIbvhb9nZ2dnUU7-KXNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
>>> On 28/04/2021 6:55 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 28-Apr-21 6:02 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-28/richard-pusey-sentenced-for-filming-police-eastern-freeway-crash/100099402
>>>>>
>>>>> Pusey sentenced to 10 months prison - effectively time already served.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why wasn't he granted bail initially? All he did was record himself
>>>>> saying some crazy stuff at the scene of an accident. Why was he
>>>>> sentenced to jail time for what he did?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just goes to show, you don't want to get on the wrong side of the
>>>>> police force.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why he pleaded guilty to an offence that may not even
>>>> exist in Australia.
>>>
>>> It is a common law offence and has been prosecuted in the past in
>>> Victoria. A very strange law imho because it seems open to so much
>>> interpretation.
>>
>> There is no real alternative because it would be
>> impossible to spell out precisely what is proscribed.
>
> Is it better to have a mixture of common law and criminal code for
> criminal law like there is in Vic and NSW, or is it better to have purely
> a criminal code (no common law) like in Qld and WA?

IMO its better to not have common law, essentially because
its far too weird and unspecific with the weirder bits of it.
And who cares what some silly senile old parasite decided
centurys ago, what matters is what makes sense law wise today.

Corse the contra argument is that it can take the legislature
far too long to bin what is obsolete black letter law.

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