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......to play for them? RH

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On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 14:15:10 UTC, RH wrote:
> .....to play for them? RH

Why would they want to? He has clearly made his choice to be English.
How do you know that they haven't already tried?

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On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 2:48:59 PM UTC, Najeeb ybo wrote:
> On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 14:15:10 UTC, RH wrote:
> > .....to play for them? RH
> Why would they want to? He has clearly made his choice to be English.
> How do you know that they haven't already tried?

All he has done so far is play U-19 cricket for England, That does not preclude him m switching to the Windies.

Why do you think was the motivation of Bethel to choose to play for England U -19s?

RH

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On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 16:08:20 UTC, RH wrote:
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 2:48:59 PM UTC, Najeeb ybo wrote:
> > On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 14:15:10 UTC, RH wrote:
> > > .....to play for them? RH
> > Why would they want to? He has clearly made his choice to be English.
> > How do you know that they haven't already tried?
> All he has done so far is play U-19 cricket for England, That does not preclude him m switching to the Windies.
>
> Why do you think was the motivation of Bethel to choose to play for England U -19s?
>
> RH

Already his contribution to English and international cricket has been very positive.
He lives and was brought up and educated and learned his cricket in England.
Bethell didn't choose to play for England U19, he was selected to play by England U19.

How have you contributed to English cricket?

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 by: David North - Sat, 29 Jan 2022 04:05 UTC

On 28/01/2022 16:08, RH wrote:
> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 2:48:59 PM UTC, Najeeb ybo wrote:
>> On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 14:15:10 UTC, RH wrote:
>>> .....to play for them? RH
>> Why would they want to? He has clearly made his choice to be English.
>> How do you know that they haven't already tried?
>
> All he has done so far is play U-19 cricket for England, That does not preclude him m switching to the Windies.

It does for 3 years.

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On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 2:08:20 AM UTC+10, RH wrote:
> Why do you think was the motivation of Bethel to choose to play for England U -19s?

Because he's English....

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 by: John Hall - Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:54 UTC

In message <f9e9db43-52cb-463a-8a95-30bb432a68a1n@googlegroups.com>,
jack fredricks <jzfredricks@gmail.com> writes
>On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 2:08:20 AM UTC+10, RH wrote:
>> Why do you think was the motivation of Bethel to choose to play for
>>England U -19s?
>
>Because he's English....
>

I only wish that Gordon Greenidge, who IIRC grew up in England and
learnt his cricket here, had come to the same conclusion.
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 by: max.it - Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:40 UTC

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:28:06 +0000, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 10:54:19 +0000, John Hall
><john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <f9e9db43-52cb-463a-8a95-30bb432a68a1n@googlegroups.com>,
>>jack fredricks <jzfredricks@gmail.com> writes
>>>On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 2:08:20 AM UTC+10, RH wrote:
>>>> Why do you think was the motivation of Bethel to choose to play for
>>>>England U -19s?
>>>
>>>Because he's English....
>>>
>>
>>I only wish that Gordon Greenidge, who IIRC grew up in England and
>>learnt his cricket here, had come to the same conclusion.
>
>Unlike Bethell, who was 17 when he came to England after winning a
>scholarship to Rugby - presumably for the two years leading up to
>A-levels. He's qualified to play for England under the rules, but it's
>stretching things a long way to say that he learned cricket here -
>though no doubt he has extended his knowledge of his game. Since I
>don't choose to waste my time cavilling about the qualification rules
>in a world where people frequently change countries, it bothers me not
>at all, but those of more fastidious tastes will have to jump some
>intellectual hurdles to be happy.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mike

He's been in England longer than you think.

https://edgbaston.com/team/jacob-bethell/

Precocious natural talent
Jacob is a highly promising top order batsman and left-arm spinner who
has come through the Bears academy to earn a three-year professional
contract, starting this year.

Born in Barbados, Jacob came to Warwickshire aged 12 as part of the
club’s relationship with Rugby School and its director of cricket,
former Bears captain Michael Powell.

“We’ve been closely following the progress of Jacob in the Academy
over the last two years and he looks confident and assured whenever he
takes a step up, whether that has been in Second XI cricket or with
the Young Lions.”

Paul Farbrace
Director of Cricket

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 by: max.it - Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:40 UTC

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:26:41 +0000, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk>
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>On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:40:33 +0000, max.it <max@tea.time> wrote:
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>
>>
>>He's been in England longer than you think.
>
>OK. As I said, it doesn't bother me one way or another because he
>meets the criteria set out in the qualification rules. I leave it to
>illiberal bigots to come up with illogical crap.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mike

I would feel differently about the SA players drafted in to play in
the U19 world cup. Apart from the fact that they haven't contributed
(Cox had 111 and some catches) any more that I would have expected the
' non travelling reserves' to have done.
U19 cricket is a very narrow window of opportunity and this SA
'passport scouting' from Ireland is making it more narrow for the
lads who have squeezed their way through the Irish system into
contention only to be usurped by a player who an assistant coach and
national partisan has flagged.

Whenever you see an age group national team where some of the players
'home clubs' are actually foreign grammar schools then that's a red
flag that CI need to address.

max.it

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