Petz, nursing his badly bruised Xtian fundy alt-right Village Idiot
ego.

> Daniel65
>> Petz
>>> Daniel65
>>>
>>>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??
>>>>
>>> humanism
>>> Anal nit picking Daniel65
>>>
>> What's the point of YOU, Petzl, typing anything if those that read what
>> you type have got ZERO idea what you are typing about, Petzl??
>>
> You are trying to reply to me after Ordog has snipped clipped and
> incoherently altered
>
No, Petz! You won't be able to sell that idiotic assertion to anyone
capable of reading/comprehending Usenet posts and scrolling back up in
the thread to find the original post and all the intact replies.

Daniel has pointedly did NOT reply to me. He has addressed your bullshit
directly pointing to your haphazard, completely random though processes
clearly defining your posts/replies. None of us in this newsgroup are
mind readers and we can't tell how and why you jump around addressing
disjointed discussion topics, wildly moving goal posts and ranting on
and on about something that was not anywhere stated in the OP.
Actually, for most readers the content of your posts looks like some
sort of incomprehensible far-right word salad.

And that is exactly what Daniel keeps on pointing out to you.
If you don't like it, well it's tough cookie. You'd better build a
bridge to get over it or just fuck off from this newsgroup permanently!

:-P :-P :-P

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right loon
and/or Xtian fundy propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o
reading/

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 10:08:43 +1100, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 09:57:33 +1100, Ördög
><newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>
>>Petz's fragile fee-fees are now badly butt hurt
>>
>>/Autosnip all septic-trash and home grown troll inputs/
>>
>>> He loves distorting fact by snipping
>>
>>How many times people must tell you that snipping some content in
>>replies never changes the original posts. It is all still there higher
>>up in the thread.
>> >
>>> Example in full
>> >
>>> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
>>> except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
>>> communism proposes to enslave men by force,
>>> socialism - by vote.
>>> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.
>>>
>> > Which Ordog censors to read only
>> > "There is no difference between communism and socialism!"
>>
>>Fucking moron. Snipping stuff in replies while the original post is
>>still intact in the thread is NOT some fucking censorship.
>>
>>That plagiarized rubbish, that throw away hate propaganda bullshit was
>>debunked so many times it is not worth doing it again and again.
>>
>>No matter how many times you are dishing it up in the newsgroup, again
>>and again and again, I do not feel obliged any more to come up with
>>properly applicable quotes, Internet links and explanations, which you
>>anyhow ain't interested reading, let alone accepting. It is a total
>>waste of my time and attention. That is why I snip that crap immediately
>>after the first sentence of your hate propaganda strawman.
>>>
>>> The Dumb 3 go to abuse town on Ordog's severe cut/snip/paste
>> >
>>The real Dumb three in this newsgroup are:
>>
>>*Dumb One* Some home grown as well as some septic trash
>> alt-right/Xtian fundy malicious trolls.
>>
>>*Dumb Two* Alzheimer Rod Speed, the anger management disaster and
>> ego maniac senile old fart
>>
>>*Dumb Three" AriDumb the BerenJerk, born again Einstein, who
>> reinvents/re-engineers all of science from ground up to
>> match his own mad ideas on faster than light travel and
>> the perpetual motion machine and and and similar utter
>> nonsense.
>>
>>And, of course, the greatest dumb-fuck of all is Petz himself, the
>>Village Idiot of aus.pol, their brain dead follower desperately intent
>>on finding some/any support in Usenet for his own idiocies as a pathetic
>>faith saving exercise.
>>
>>:-P :-P :-P
>>
>>
>>/NOTE:
>>All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right loon
>>and/or Xtian fundy propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o
>>reading/
>
>...troll, troll, troll your boat.....
>
Here is on of Ordogs Sydney posters.
https://ibb.co/p2Rx09f
The other problem is the top dumb one "Fran" is likely to dob you in
used to have (still do) a youtube page which I showed videos, one was
a concern about Covid vaccine damage by a NZ doctor. 3 NZ doctors have
been reregistered for stating concerns, she raised bull concerns about
this. a google ripped it down with threats, I deleted everything.
I have 4 Covid shots.
Now have DuckDuckgo as my search engine particularly for news. Google
works for the Biden unelected Kleptocracy.
Do have Google as a link it is better for videos, image search.
watch 2000 mules here use your browser VPN don't download.
Don't believe it is illegal to watch (but your ISP may block access to
site), but is to download as it is likely while downloading you upload
at same time (sharing/piracy).
https://yifytv.co/movie/2000-mules-79867
--
Petzl
**On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord, one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-three.
Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
He died**
Cultural Marxism aims
1. The creation of racism offenses.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools' and teachers' authority
5. Huge immigration and multiculturalism to destroy a countries identity.
6. The promotion of drug taking (while pretending it is bad)
7. Emptying of churches
(Only the Christian churches as the underlying basis of our society is Judaeo Christian) Other religions are to be promoted and protected.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime (Soft sentencing, revolving doors, more concern for the welfare of criminals than victims)
9. Creating dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family by:
(a) Attack the authority of the father.
(b) deny the specific roles of father and mother.
(c) Wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
(d) Abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
(e) Abolish all forms of male dominance
(f) Declare women to be an 'oppressed class' and men as 'oppressors'

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

>>> “The truth will set you free” John 8:32, John 17.
>>
>> Just because some swarthy sandal wearing god botherer claims
>> something...
>>
>> Its as silly as stupid yanks mindlessly hyperventilating
>> about 'the land of the free' when in fact most of those
>> stupid fuckers 'live' in HOAs where you aren't even
>> free to leave your trailer in your front yard, work on
>> your own car in your own driveway, or even decide
>> for yourself what color of garage door to have.
>>
> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?

Then you need that new hearing aid, bad.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

> Communism/Socialism

They aint the same thing, stupid.

> is the demise of humanism.

Bullshit.

> Started around 4/5 centuries ago.

Bullshit. Communes existed LONG before that.

> The best there was, was in Christianity.

Bullshit. Those stupid fuckers butchered each
other and burnt each other at the stake, stupid.

> Sympathy for the oppressed
> and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will of every human
> being.

Try that again in english. Even google
translate doesnt do gobbledegook yet.

> You ought to read (but you won't)

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism#Origins>

Doesnt say anything even remotely like what you said and
is irrelevant to what communism and socialism are anyway,

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:01:46 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 9:52 am:
>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:43:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> “The truth will set you free” John 8:32, John 17.
>>> Just because some swarthy sandal wearing god botherer claims
>>> something...
>>> Its as silly as stupid yanks mindlessly hyperventilating about 'the
>>> land of the free' when in fact most of those stupid fuckers 'live'
>>> in HOAs where you aren't even free to leave your trailer in your
>>> front yard, work on your own car in your own driveway, or even
>>> decide for yourself what color of garage door to have.
>>>
>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>
> "HOA"??

Home Owner's Association.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:15:51 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 11:30 am:
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 10:01:37 +1100, Ördög
>> <newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:
>>>> Ördög
>>>>> Petz
>>>> Removed Ordog armchair commie truth hating crap!
>
> .... rather than actually addressing the points Ordog raises!!
>
>> Communists that listens to the researchers and has a scientific
>> basis for its policy
>
> Sorry!! WHAT?? Come on, Petzl, you start off referring to PEOPLE
> (Communists) but then do a triple somersault with half-pike and are
> referring to an ideology (scientific basis)!!
>
> What are you trying to do, Petzl??
>
>> this is how Communists want to appear.
>
> They do??
>
>> But when scientists tell truths
>
> Doesn't everybody want to tell the truth .... as they want to believe it
> it (e.g. Trump!!)??

Nope, most obviously with liars, spivs, con men etc.

>> that don't fit the communists worldview,
>
> What is "the communists worldview", Petzl??
>
>> the mouthpieces turn a deaf ear.
>
> Types the man that rathers cutting stuff than actually addressing the
> points raised!!

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:23:52 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 3:00 pm:
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:45:48 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
>>>> Ördög
>>> /Proper discussion context immediately restored below/
>>>
>> Delete reams of commie bullshit
>>>
>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism.

> Aren't Communism and Socialism opposite ends of the Political Spectrum??

No, capitalism is.

>> Started around 4/5 centuries ago.

> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??

Christian Humanism as his last link spells out.

>> The best there was, was in Christianity.

> Golly Gosh!! I didn't think there was any Communism/Socialism in
> Christianity!!

Plenty of communes, most obviously with monastrys and nunerys etc.

Quite a bit of socialism too, most obviously
with the poor, and church free hospitals etc.

>> Sympathy for the oppressed
>> and destitute and it's reconciliation of the free will of every human
>> being.
>> You ought to read (but you won't)
>
> .... ought to read WHAT, Petzl??

What he posted a link to at the bottom.

>> Communists that listens to the researchers and has a scientific basis
>> for its policy-
>
> WHAT "has a scientific basis for its policy", Petzl??

What Marx spelled out.

>> this is how Communists want to appear. But when
>> scientists tell truths that don't fit the communists worldview, the
>> mouthpieces turn a deaf ear.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_humanism#Origins>

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:55:54 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 20:01:46 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 9:52 am:
>>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:43:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> “The truth will set you free” John 8:32, John 17.
>>>>
>>>> Just because some swarthy sandal wearing god botherer claims
>>>> something...
>>>>
>>>> Its as silly as stupid yanks mindlessly hyperventilating about 'the
>>>> land of the free' when in fact most of those stupid fuckers 'live'
>>>> in HOAs where you aren't even free to leave your trailer in your
>>>> front yard, work on your own car in your own driveway, or even
>>>> decide for yourself what color of garage door to have.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>>
>> "HOA"??

> "Home Owners association" in USA

> is the same as retirement homes in Australia.

Nope, nothing even remotely like those.

> Usually a expensive wrought.

Nope, how most houses are done in the US,

And its rort, you illiterate hoon.

> Better off and cheaper looking for permanent accommodation in hotel.

Nothing even remotely like that.

It is a group of adjacent normal houses which impose rules on
the house owners on stuff they can and cannot do like park their
small trailer on the grass in their front yard, work on their car on
their own driveway, what color they can paint their garage door etc.

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:58:55 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 20:23:52 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??

> humanism

Nope, just CHRISTIAN HUMANISM.

Petz nursing his bruised ego, the poor sod village idiot!

/Autosnip all septic-trash and home grown troll inputs/

> Ördög
>> Petz's fragile fee-fees are now badly butt hurt
>>> He loves distorting fact by snipping
>>
>> How many times people must tell you that snipping some content in
>> replies never changes the original posts. It is all still there higher
>> up in the thread.
>>>
>>> Example in full
>>> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
>
... blah...snip
>
>>> Which Ordog censors to read only
>>> "There is no difference between communism and socialism!"
>>>
>> Fucking moron. Snipping stuff in replies while the original post is
>> still intact in the thread is NOT some fucking censorship.
>> That plagiarized rubbish, that throw away hate propaganda bullshit was
>> debunked so many times it is not worth doing it again and again
>> No matter how many times you are dishing it up in the newsgroup, again
>> and again and again, I do not feel obliged any more to come up with
>> properly applicable quotes, Internet links and explanations, which you
>> anyhow ain't interested reading, let alone accepting. It is a total
>> waste of my time and attention. That is why I snip that crap immediately
>> after the first sentence of your hate propaganda strawman.
>>>
>>> The Dumb 3 go to abuse town on Ordog's severe cut/snip/paste
>>
>> The real Dumb three in this newsgroup are:
>> *Dumb One* Some home grown as well as some septic trash
>> alt-right/Xtian fundy malicious trolls.
>>
>> *Dumb Two* Alzheimer Rod Speed, the anger management disaster and
>> ego maniac senile old fart
>>
>> *Dumb Three" AriDumb the BerenJerk, born again Einstein, who
>> reinvents/re-engineers all of science from ground up to
>> match his own mad ideas on faster than light travel and
>> the perpetual motion machine and and and similar utter
>> nonsense.
>>
>> And, of course, the greatest dumb-fuck of all is Petz himself, the
>> Village Idiot of aus.pol, their brain dead follower desperately intent
>> on finding some/any support in Usenet for his own idiocies as a pathetic
>> faith saving exercise.
>> :-P :-P :-P
>>>
/snip crap link/
>
> The other problem is the top dumb one "Fran" is likely to dob you in
> used to have (still do) a youtube page which I showed videos, one was
> a concern about Covid vaccine damage by a NZ doctor. 3 NZ doctors have
> been reregistered for stating concerns, she raised bull concerns about
> this. a google ripped it down with threats, I deleted everything.
>
Firstly, you really don't know who actually complained to YouTube about
you spreading science illiterate conspiracy/QAnon/anti-vaxxer alt-right
crap. Google and YouTube usually don't react at all to individual
complains unless more than just one Netizen raises the flag.
And of course Google/YouTube never tells the content posters who made
the complaint.
You are just speculating wildly because you hate Fran with a passion.
Shame on you.

But I tell you this right now: I don't tolerate idiots spreading
outright lies and serious misinformation that could endanger other
peoples' health and lives, and that includes all that stupid anti-vaxx
stuff.
If I find you doing that in YouTube I will definitely send a complaint
about it, nor will I apologise for doing that. That is my duty as a
rational human being.

>
> I have 4 Covid shots.
>
So you are also a hypocrite and a coward. You take the vaccine to save
your sorry life while spreading misinfo to masses of gullible
rightwinger numbnuts on Internet who then refuse to get vaccinated even
if they could die as a result of that refusal.

/snip rest of your moronic rant, including the reference to that big
Trump lie propaganda movie pushed everywhere all over the Net without
any restrictions for any MAGA idiot who loves to fry their already
damaged brain cells./

/NOTE:
All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right loon
and/or Xtian fundy propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o
reading/

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:07:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 22:57:42 +1100, Fran
> <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/12/2022 8:23 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 3:00 pm:
>>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:45:48 +1100, *Ördög* the real newsgroup Devil
>>>> <devil@a.shadow.that.scares.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Ördög
>>>>> /Proper discussion context immediately restored below/
>>>>>
>>>> Delete reams of commie bullshit
>>>>>
>>>> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism.
>>>
>>> Aren't Communism and Socialism opposite ends of the Political
>>> Spectrum??
>>
>> No. Both are on the left of the political spectrum.

> There is no difference between communism and socialism,

BULLSHIT. The obvious difference is that socialism is how the
elected govt does some stuff like health care, the postal service,
the cops, the legal system, some schools, most roads and in
some cases even the national airline and car manufacture etc.

> except in the
> means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to
> enslave men by force, socialism - by (rigged) vote.

More mindless bullshit with that stupid rigged vote claim.

> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
> #Margaret Thatcher

She never said that either and it is a stupid mindless claim.

Thatcher never even proposed that the govt not do any
schools, the cops, judicial system, most roads etc etc etc.

Alzheimer Rod rides again keeping up appearances

> Petz
>> Daniel65
>>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??
>
>> humanism
>
Bullshit!
Humanism has been around a lot longer, as far back as ancient Greece.
The Renaissance and the subsequent Enlightenment has brought it back
after the horribly oppressive years of the Dark Ages.
>
> Nope, just CHRISTIAN HUMANISM.
>
Not surprisingly the more fundamentalist Christian reaction to that was
the Counter-Reformation lead by the Catholic Church, the Thirty Years'
War in Western Europe and lovely things like the witch-hunts in the
USA...of course, all in the name of Xtian "humanism". LOL!

*Salem witch trials*
/American history/
<https://www.britannica.com/event/Salem-witch-trials>

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 14:03:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>>>
>>> "HOA"??
>
>> "Home Owners association" in USA
>
>> is the same as retirement homes in Australia.
>
>Nope, nothing even remotely like those.
>
"We" Sydney are seeing retirement villages cropping up
<https://www.villages.com.au/retirement-villages/nsw/sydney>
>
>> Usually a expensive wrought.
>
>Nope, how most houses are done in the US,
>
>And its rort, you illiterate hoon.
>
OK
>
>> Better off and cheaper looking for permanent accommodation in hotel.
>
>Nothing even remotely like that.
>
The Astra at Bondi beach looks OK to me?
<https://www.bondiastra.com.au>
>
>It is a group of adjacent normal houses which impose rules on
>the house owners on stuff they can and cannot do like park their
>small trailer on the grass in their front yard, work on their car on
>their own driveway, what color they can paint their garage door etc.
>
That's what over 60's estates do in Sydney, Glen Alpine have a gated
community. But if your wife is young no-go, no pets,
<https://www.landcom.com.au/places/macarthur-gardens-north/>
>
--
Petzl
There are none so blind as those who will not see

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 14:04:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:58:55 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 20:23:52 +1100, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??
>
>> humanism
>
>Nope, just CHRISTIAN HUMANISM.
>
Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism, started around 4/5
centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity. Sympathy for
the oppressed and destitute and it's recognition of the free will of
every human being. The idea was to carry it all on, but without
God,and such a humanist movement will live on. It indeed existed
throughout the past centuries, and through its influence alleviated
some cruelties. I can't say that it eased colonialism much, it did
ease some things. un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
in the twentieth century. Those were the first and the second world
war. humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevated
itself to a higher level. It did make an attempt. In the middle of the
20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
trouble is we live as separate nations ,separate states - that is the
cause of all evil.
--
Petzl
Think of Christianity as Australia's immune system.
The Christian belief and fact is Moslems are deceived.
Like Schizophrenics, they need therapy;
Not confirmation of their delusions.
The recognized place of worship in a Christian Nation is a Christian Church.
Mosques are the recognized place of worship only in Moslem countries
Australia's only legally defined God is our Christian God whose compound redemptive name is Lord Jesus Christ
Something as simple as denying Moslems a place to pray is all it takes to make them leave voluntarily and peacefully.

On 10/12/2022 2:06 pm, Ördög wrote:
> Petz nursing his bruised ego, the poor sod village idiot!

>> The other problem is the top dumb one "Fran" is likely to dob you in
>> used to have (still do) a youtube page which I showed videos, one was
>> a concern about Covid vaccine damage by a NZ doctor. 3 NZ doctors have
>> been reregistered for stating concerns, she raised bull concerns about
>> this. a google ripped it down with threats, I deleted everything.

Pretzel, you are a fucking idiot and a fucking liar.

I've NEVER made any complaint about you to Youtube. If anyone did
complain to Youtube, it was NOT me!!!!!!!! As far as I know I've never
even seen any channel you may own.

And even if your channel was one of the channels that had the disgusting
videos to which you used to post links here, I DID NOT COMPLAIN TO
YOUTUBE ABOUT ANY OF THE VIDEOS TO WHICH YOU POSTED LINKS HERE!!!!!!!

I have consistently told you, here in this newsgroup, that you, the
video links you posted, yur cites and in fact EVERYTHING you post and
say are garbage, crap, disgusting or some other derogatory statement.
AND I made those comments to you HERE in this ng. NOT too Youtube!!!

Got that moron?

I've told you this before last time you falsely accused me of making a
complaint against you. Stop lying. Find someone with a functioning
brain to explain to you what I've just written.

> >
> Firstly, you really don't know who actually complained to YouTube about
> you spreading science illiterate conspiracy/QAnon/anti-vaxxer alt-right
> crap. Google and YouTube usually don't react at all to individual
> complains unless more than just one Netizen raises the flag.
> And of course Google/YouTube never tells the content posters who made
> the complaint.

Of course not but given the shit we see here every day from our resident
retard, I'm sure there would have been lots of complaints made by many
people about any channel he might have had. I, however, have never made
any complaint to Yutube about him, his channel, or about anyone else either.

> You are just speculating wildly because you hate Fran with a passion.

Being hated by him is the best compliment I could be given given that
he's a brain dead, lying moron with less mental capacity then as single
celled fungi.

> Shame on you.
>
> But I tell you this right now: I don't tolerate idiots spreading
> outright lies and serious misinformation that could endanger other
> peoples' health and lives, and that includes all that stupid anti-vaxx
> stuff.
> If I find you doing that in YouTube I will definitely send a complaint
> about it, nor will I apologise for doing that. That is my duty as a
> rational human being.
>
> >
>> I have 4 Covid shots.
> >
> So you are also a hypocrite and a coward. You take the vaccine to save
> your sorry life while spreading misinfo to masses of gullible
> rightwinger numbnuts on Internet who then refuse to get vaccinated even
> if they could die as a result of that refusal.

Natural selection at work. But yes, pretzel's a bloody hypocrite.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>>>>
>>>> "HOA"??
>>
>>> "Home Owners association" in USA
>>
>>> is the same as retirement homes in Australia.
>>
>> Nope, nothing even remotely like those.
>>
> "We" Sydney are seeing retirement villages cropping up
> <https://www.villages.com.au/retirement-villages/nsw/sydney>

They are cropping up EVERYWHERE but are nothing even
remotely like US HOAs.

>>> Usually a expensive wrought.

>> Nope, how most houses are done in the US,

>> And its rort, you illiterate hoon.

> OK

>>> Better off and cheaper looking for permanent accommodation in hotel.

>> Nothing even remotely like that.

> The Astra at Bondi beach looks OK to me?
> <https://www.bondiastra.com.au>

Irrelevant to what is being discussed US HOAs.

>> It is a group of adjacent normal houses which impose rules on
>> the house owners on stuff they can and cannot do like park their
>> small trailer on the grass in their front yard, work on their car on
>> their own driveway, what color they can paint their garage door etc.

> That's what over 60's estates do in Sydney,

Irrelevant to what US HOAs are about.

> Glen Alpine have a gated
> community. But if your wife is young no-go, no pets,
> <https://www.landcom.com.au/places/macarthur-gardens-north/>

Irrelevant to what US HOAs are about.

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 14:59:42 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 14:04:10 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:58:55 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 20:23:52 +1100, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??
>>
>>> humanism
>>
>> Nope, just CHRISTIAN HUMANISM.

> Communism/Socialism is the demise of humanism, started around 4/5
> centuries ago. the best there was, was in Christianity. Sympathy for
> the oppressed and destitute and it's recognition of the free will of
> every human being.

Repeating that stupid pig ignorant claim changes nothing.

Pity about those stupid fuckers burning each other at the
stake and going to war with those in a different xtian cult.

> The idea was to carry it all on, but without
> God,and such a humanist movement will live on.

But socialism didnt do a damned thing to even try to crush humanism.

> It indeed existed
> throughout the past centuries,

Millennia, actually.

> and through its influence alleviated
> some cruelties.

Nope, that stopped for other reasons.

> I can't say that it eased colonialism much,

It didnt at all in fact. Colonialism basically came later.

> it did
> ease some things.

Nope.

> un till two explosions of infinite cruelty occurred
> in the twentieth century.

More mindless bullshit.

> Those were the first and the second world war.

Neither of which had anything to do with communism or
socialism or humanism either.

> humanism had either to admit it's uselessness or try to elevated
> itself to a higher level.

More mindless bullshit.

> It did make an attempt.

It arguably made very dramatic progress with the hippys.

> In the middle of the
> 20th century humanism proclaimed itself a globalism of promise, the
> trouble is we live as separate nations ,separate states - that is the
> cause of all evil.

More mindless bullshit. Most evil is actually due to evil arseholes.

Rod Speed wrote on 10/12/22 1:00 pm:
> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:01:46 +1100, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 9:52 am:
>>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:43:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> “The truth will set you free” John 8:32, John 17.
>>>>  Just because some swarthy sandal wearing god botherer claims
>>>> something...
>>>>  Its as silly as stupid yanks mindlessly hyperventilating about 'the
>>>> land of the free' when in fact most of those stupid fuckers 'live'
>>>> in HOAs where you aren't even free to leave your trailer in your
>>>> front yard, work on your own car in your own driveway, or even
>>>> decide for yourself what color of garage door to have.
>>>>
>>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>>
>> "HOA"??
>
> Home Owner's Association.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association

Yes, it's easy to find out what organisations are about ..... when you
know what the abbreviation stands for!!
--
Daniel

Ördög wrote on 10/12/22 10:14 am:
> Petz, nursing his badly bruised Xtian fundy alt-right Village Idiot
> ego.
>> Daniel65
>>> Petz
>>>> Daniel65
>>>>
>>>>> What started 'around 4/5 centuries ago'??
>>>>>
>>>> humanism
>>>> Anal nit picking Daniel65
>>>>
>>> What's the point of YOU, Petzl, typing anything if those that read what
>>> you type have got ZERO idea what you are typing about, Petzl??
>>>
>> You are trying to reply to me after Ordog has snipped clipped and
>> incoherently altered
>>
> No, Petz! You won't be able to sell that idiotic assertion to anyone
> capable of reading/comprehending Usenet posts and scrolling back up in
> the thread to find the original post and all the intact replies.
>
> Daniel has pointedly did NOT reply to me. He has addressed your bullshit
> directly pointing to your haphazard, completely random though processes
> clearly defining your posts/replies. None of us in this newsgroup are
> mind readers and we can't tell how and why you jump around addressing
> disjointed discussion topics, wildly moving goal posts and ranting on
> and on about something that was not anywhere stated in the OP.
> Actually, for most readers the content of your posts looks like some
> sort of incomprehensible far-right word salad.
>
> And that is exactly what Daniel keeps on pointing out to you.
> If you don't like it, well it's tough cookie. You'd better build a
> bridge to get over it or just fuck off from this newsgroup permanently!
>
> :-P    :-P    :-P
>
> /NOTE:
> All of Petz's completely idiotic and mostly plagiarised alt-right loon
> and/or Xtian fundy propaganda sigs are consigned to cyber nirvana w/o
> reading/
>
Yeap! Yeap! Yeap.
--
Daniel

Rod Speed wrote on 10/12/22 2:10 pm:
> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:07:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

<Snip>

>> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
>
> BULLSHIT. The obvious difference is that socialism is how the
> elected govt does some stuff like health care, the postal service,
> the cops, the legal system, some schools, most roads and in
> some cases even the national airline and car manufacture etc.

I would have thought the main obvious difference between "communism" and
"socialism" was in the spelling!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Daniel65

> Rod Speed
>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:07:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
>>
>> BULLSHIT. The obvious difference is that socialism is how the
>> elected govt does some stuff like health care, the postal service,
>> the cops, the legal system, some schools, most roads and in
>> some cases even the national airline and car manufacture etc.
>
> I would have thought the main obvious difference between "communism" and
> "socialism" was in the spelling!! ;-P

That's a good one, Daniel. ;-)

At least that makes some real sense instead of Alzheimer Rod's
capitalist libertarian/neoliberal/Tatcherite reinterpretation of what
socialism should mean. I for my part stay with Marx's definition of that
socio- and econopolitical ideology. However, if I had to choose between
the kind of brutal capitalism preferred by senile old fart Rod and his
ilk and a well functioning European style social-democracy, I'd always
go for the latter option even though it is still nothing more than
capitalism mild.

--
Ördög
"A reminder for your mortification"

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:52:11 +1100, Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote on 10/12/22 1:00 pm:
>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:01:46 +1100, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Petzl wrote on 8/12/22 9:52 am:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 09:43:39 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> “The truth will set you free” John 8:32, John 17.
>>>>> Just because some swarthy sandal wearing god botherer claims
>>>>> something...
>>>>> Its as silly as stupid yanks mindlessly hyperventilating about 'the
>>>>> land of the free' when in fact most of those stupid fuckers 'live'
>>>>> in HOAs where you aren't even free to leave your trailer in your
>>>>> front yard, work on your own car in your own driveway, or even
>>>>> decide for yourself what color of garage door to have.
>>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a HOA has come to take you away Rod?
>>>>>
>>> "HOA"??
>> Home Owner's Association.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association
>
> Yes, it's easy to find out what organisations are about ..... when you
> know what the abbreviation stands for!!

Even when you don't know what the abbreviation stands
for, you can put <HOA wiki> into google and see what it offers
and see which one matches the stuff I originally said.

If you aren't actually so stupid that you can't manage
to work out that no bullet can ever fall from a gun
when fired and then immediately start rising again.

On 10/12/2022 8:21 pm, Daniel65 wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote on 10/12/22 2:10 pm:
>> On Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:07:51 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>>> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
>>
>> BULLSHIT. The obvious difference is that socialism is how the
>> elected govt does some stuff like health care, the postal service,
>> the cops, the legal system, some schools, most roads and in
>> some cases even the national airline and car manufacture etc.
>
> I would have thought the main obvious difference between "communism" and
> "socialism" was in the spelling!! ;-P

:-) Nice try Daniel. But nah - it ain't.