On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 at 15:17:06 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> Unlimited power generation from deuterium fissioning
>
> The article below proposes that the so-called "cold fusion" was actually deuterium fissioning. If indeed this is true, then the engineering possiblities for unlimited power generation using this phenomenon open up.
>
> Deuterium fissions when high energy electrons (beta rays) strike or come near the deuterium nucleus. The electron holding the two protons snap the bond, releasing two protons at very close range causing enormous force, acceleration, velocity and kinetic energy. This ultimately leads to heat energy from collisions with stationary matter. Usually a nuclear explosion causes this fissioning.
>
> However, the conditions for deuterium fissioning can be done in the laboratory. What is needed is to pass very high energy electrons (even more powerful than beta rays) through matter containing deuterium. It is not possible to use gamma rays; but it is expected that its lack will be compensated by very strongly accelerated electrons.
>
> Doing that is not difficult. A space charge of electrons can be formed by thermionic emission. Then a very high voltage creating a very strong electric field, could be applied to drive the electrons between the electrodes at very high speeds.
>
> Through these electrodes heavy water is passed at high pressure. The electrons hit the deuterium nuclei present there, causing enormous heat which immediately boils the water into superheated steam. This steam can now drive turbines for electricity generation.
>
> Naturally at a power plant there will be many such electrodes, to create energy by a parallel multiplicative process.
>
> This will be the cleanest way to produce unlimited energy, beating even solar power. Maybe the time for this technology will come after a few decades, hopefully earlier. With surplus power converted to hydrogen via electrolysis the need for all fossil fuel should end, with the creation of the Hydrogen Transmission Network. Details for which are at
> htnresearch.com
>
> ___________________________________
>
> "Cold fusion", an apparently observed exothermic phenomenon is very probably deuterium fission
>
> It is a fact well-known that deuterium (hydrogen nucleus has an extra neutron which can be seen as a neutrally charged proton-electron mass) occurs plentifully in sea-water, naturally. Thus, ever since the forties, efforts have been made to use this deuterium to provide unlimited energy. The reason for this lies in the success of the hydrogen bomb. The extraordinary power there came first from the fission of an atomic bomb which created the temperatures necessary to cause what was supposed to be fusion. Why was it supposed to be fusion? The answer lies in the textbook "nuclear engineering" by Irving Kaplan of MIT (Add. Wes. 1977). On page 668 we have
>
> *****
> Atomic mass of 4 hydrogen atoms = 4.13258 amu
> Atomic mass of 1 helium atom = 4.00387 amu
> Difference in mass = 0.02871 amu
> = 26.7 MeV
> = 42.7 x 10^-6 et
>
> *****
> To put it in words, when as a result of intense temperature (as in the atom bomb or at the core of the Sun due to intense pressure of gravity) four hydrogen atoms merge to form a helium atom. This process involves loss in mass as shown. From the law of conservation of mass and energy which mathematically shows that mass and energy are interchangeable concepts, from e=mcc, that mass is energy released when destroyed as what must happen when four hydrogen atoms turn into one helium atom. This was taken as gospel truth by all the scientists who have for decades tried to create the temperatures required to turn hydrogen into helium in the lab. They have failed so far, despite billions of dollars spent and over 70 years of work.
>
> They have failed so far with "hot fusion" following the solar model. Which incidentally has to be false, for he core of the Sun or any large body like the Earth has to be very cold, if there is a magnetic field around them. But this is another story.
>
> Now in the 80s a phenomenon called "cold fusion" was announced by Fleishman and Pons. These were serious researchers whose work created tremendous attention. However these days one does not hear about them. I wonder why. A senior physicist I knew said that they were honest and diligent people, but they did not get the credit they deserved for their discovery. Most likely such was so as their work did not satisfy the "hot fusion" researchers who failed to see how on Earth repelling protons could fuse together in normal lab conditions.
>
> In the below article, I have shown how a 1 Megaton TNT hydrogen bomb explosion can be explained not by employing the law of conservation of mass and energy, but by pure and simple electrostatic repulsion of protons, that caused by breaking the nuclear bonding of the deuterium nucleus seen as two protons held by a single electron. The analysis shows how it is unnecessary to implement the law of conservation of mass and energy in the explanation for the hydrogen bomb phenomenon.
>
> To turn to cold fusion, now. If indeed there is no fusion of hydrogen to helium, simple disintegration of the deuterium nucleus instead, then such a phenomenon need not be dependent purely on a preceding nuclear blast causing beta and gamma rays. The disintegration of deuterium to form heat could well be done in the lab under certain phenomenon. That is most probably what happened in the experiments of Fleishman and Pons, but as fusion was mentioned, no one thought of deuterium fission. Till your present writer.
>
> ______________________________
>
> Analysis of the hydrogen bomb mathematically using internal forces instead of binding energies involving e=mcc
>
> The hydrogen bomb is supposedly the most powerful illustration of e=mcc, as the binding energies are involved somehow in fusing hydrogen and deuterium nuciei into helium.
>
> Let us suppose that is not true, holding e=mcc to be false to begin with.
>
> Further, let us hold that the deuterium nuclei is two protons held together by one electron which acts as a superglue joining two positive charges just about strong enough to make it NOT fly away when the nucleus is hit with a high energy electron along with gamma ray involving strong vibration - the latter typically caused by the normal atom bomb fissioning with strong induced radioactivity.
>
> Let us now see if we can explain the energy of a 1 Megaton TNT H-bomb using known electrostatic forces only, and not binding energies or strong force assumptions.
>
> The assertion now is that the deuterium atom, instead of fusing with a proton to form a tritium atom releasing extraordinary energy (the standard position now held, presented in all books, accepted by all institutions) what is really happening is that the electron can no longer hold the two protons together as a result of collision from a high energy electron (beta ray) along with gamma ray vibrations. In which case the two protons fly away from each other, repelled by their mutual positive charge.
>
> Let us see if this model works to explain the energies involved for a 1 Megaton TNT H-bomb explosion. As per google search, 1 Kg of TNT releases 1.67 x 10^9 joules. 1 Megaton (a million tons) would release 1.67 x 10^15 joules.
>
> Can simple formulas, known for decades, relating to electrostatics be used to show that fission as stated above will create such an energy?
>
> Let us get the basic data first, that is publicly known and found via google searching.
>
> mass of proton 1.67 x 10^-29 Kg
> charge of proton 1.602 x 10^-19 coulombs
> diameter of proton 10^-15 meter
> k value is 8.98 x 10^9 MKAS units
>
> Using the formula for electrostatic attraction and repulsion, and assuming that at rest in the deuterim atom the protons were separated by two proton diameters, we present the age old formula
>
> F = k x q1 x q2/r^2 and putting in the values all in MKAS units
> F = 8.98 x 10^9 x 1.602 x 10^-19 x 1.602 x 10^-19/(2 X 10^-15 x 2 x 10^-15)
> or
> F = 8.98 x 1.602^2 x 10^-29/(4 x 10^-30)
> or
> F1 = 57.6 Newtons
>
> So the fissioning of a deuterium nucleus leads to at the initial position a repulsive force of 57.6 newtons. This is very important.
> We now see what energies are involved as a result of this electrostaic repulsion force.
>
> Let us consider the repulsive for the proton at a distance of 20 proton diameters, that is, when a single proton has moved away by 10 proton diameters or 10^-14m
>
> It is F = 8.98 x 1.602^2 x 10^-29/(20 x 10^-15 * 20 x 10^-15)
> or
> F2 = 0.576 Newtons
>
> Very roughly, the average force acting on the proton as it moves a distance of 10 proton diameters or 10^-14 m is the mean of these two values.
>
> The F = (F1 + F2)/2 = 29.088 Newtons
>
> The average acceleration of the proton from rest over the distance 10^-14m can be calculated from the formula F = ma or a = F/m,
> or
> a = 29.088/(1.67 x 10^-27)
> or
> a = 17.418 x 10^27 or 1.7418 x 10^28 meters per second square.
>
> The velocity of the proton after it has travelled 10^-14 m is obtained from the formula:
>
> V^2 = 2 x a x s where V is the velocity, s is the distance travelled under average acceleration a and the initial velocity is zero.
> or
> V^2 = 2 x 1.7418 x 10^28 x 10^-14
> or
> V^2 = 3.4836 x 10^14
> and
> V = 1.866 x 10^7 meters/second
>
> Now the kinetic energy of the single proton after it has travelled 10^-14m after fission is
> 0.5 x m x V^2
> or
> 0.5 x 1.67 x 10^-27 x 3.4836 x 10^14
> or
> 2.9088 x 10^-13 joules.
>
> As there are two protons involved, the kinetic energy from a deuterium fission would be
> 5.8 x 10^-13 joules
>
> Let us consider that in our bomb we have used M=100 Kg of heavy water.
> Now 19 gms of deuterium water contain 6.023 x 10^23 molecules of heavy water as per Avogadro's formula.
> So 100Kg will contain 100*1000/18 x 6.023 x 10^23 fissionable atoms or 3.17 x 10^27 atoms.
>
> If all these atoms fission in the hydrogen bomb explosion, then the total energy from just that will be:
> 5.8 x 10^-13 x 3.17 x 10^27
> = 18.38 x 10^14
> = 1.838 x 10^15 joules.
>
> Now let us go back to see what is the energy yield from a 1 Megaton TNT H bomb.
>
> Its value is
> 1.67 x 10^15 joules
>
> which is quite close to the value we have got of 1.838 x 10^15 joules and that, let me remind, is obtained by pure electrostatic internal forces caused by the repelled fissioned deuterium protons
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
> Melbourne, 23/03/2020

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:01:15 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>Looks like they got it, at last. It will take time to make proper
>power generators, to bolster the renewables.
>Then convert to hydrogen, and put it in the global HTN to solve all
>energy problems for all for all time.

They haven't, still used more power that iy made and at huge expense
--
Petzl
What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?

Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
in the 7 decades since.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
The Left is fine with Vaccine Cards
but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

> Looks like they got it [fusion], at last.

> It will take time to make proper power generators,

It remains to be seen if that is even possible.

> to bolster the renewables.

To replace them completely in fact if they do.

> Then convert to hydrogen, and put it in the global HTN

No point if they can do economically viable fusion power generators.

> to solve all energy problems for all for all time.

On Friday, 16 December 2022 at 11:00:56 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:01:15 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Looks like they got it, at last. It will take time to make proper
> >power generators, to bolster the renewables.
> >Then convert to hydrogen, and put it in the global HTN to solve all
> >energy problems for all for all time.
> They haven't, still used more power that iy made and at huge expense

But that was the story in the 1950s!
Surely after so many decades and billions even the stupid Americans should have made SOME progress?
> --
> Petzl
> What is the harm of for the Democrats validating the voting system.
> Is it because the Democrats have something to hide?
>
> Amazing to think that Lyndon Johnson perfected the
> 'sit-wait-see how many we need to win-then dump our
> stuffed ballots at the last moment' electoral technique
> in post-war Texas, and nothing has changed in US elections
> in the 7 decades since.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_election_in_Texas#Legal_battle>
> The Left is fine with Vaccine Cards
> but NOT voter IDs. Paying attention yet?

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:01:15 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 at 15:17:06 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> Unlimited power generation from deuterium fissioning
>>
>> The article below proposes that the so-called "cold fusion" was actually deuterium fissioning. If indeed this is true, then the engineering possiblities for unlimited power generation using this phenomenon open up.
>>
>> Deuterium fissions when high energy electrons (beta rays) strike or come near the deuterium nucleus. The electron holding the two protons snap the bond, releasing two protons at very close range causing enormous force, acceleration, velocity and kinetic energy. This ultimately leads to heat energy from collisions with stationary matter. Usually a nuclear explosion causes this fissioning.
>>
>> However, the conditions for deuterium fissioning can be done in the laboratory. What is needed is to pass very high energy electrons (even more powerful than beta rays) through matter containing deuterium. It is not possible to use gamma rays; but it is expected that its lack will be compensated by very strongly accelerated electrons.
>>
>> Doing that is not difficult. A space charge of electrons can be formed by thermionic emission. Then a very high voltage creating a very strong electric field, could be applied to drive the electrons between the electrodes at very high speeds.
>>
>> Through these electrodes heavy water is passed at high pressure. The electrons hit the deuterium nuclei present there, causing enormous heat which immediately boils the water into superheated steam. This steam can now drive turbines for electricity generation.
>>
>> Naturally at a power plant there will be many such electrodes, to create energy by a parallel multiplicative process.
>>
>> This will be the cleanest way to produce unlimited energy, beating even solar power. Maybe the time for this technology will come after a few decades, hopefully earlier. With surplus power converted to hydrogen via electrolysis the need for all fossil fuel should end, with the creation of the Hydrogen Transmission Network. Details for which are at
>> htnresearch.com
>>
>> ___________________________________
>>
>> "Cold fusion", an apparently observed exothermic phenomenon is very probably deuterium fission
>>
>> It is a fact well-known that deuterium (hydrogen nucleus has an extra neutron which can be seen as a neutrally charged proton-electron mass) occurs plentifully in sea-water, naturally. Thus, ever since the forties, efforts have been made to use this deuterium to provide unlimited energy. The reason for this lies in the success of the hydrogen bomb. The extraordinary power there came first from the fission of an atomic bomb which created the temperatures necessary to cause what was supposed to be fusion. Why was it supposed to be fusion? The answer lies in the textbook "nuclear engineering" by Irving Kaplan of MIT (Add. Wes. 1977). On page 668 we have
>>
>> *****
>> Atomic mass of 4 hydrogen atoms = 4.13258 amu
>> Atomic mass of 1 helium atom = 4.00387 amu
>> Difference in mass = 0.02871 amu
>> = 26.7 MeV
>> = 42.7 x 10^-6 et
>>
>> *****
>> To put it in words, when as a result of intense temperature (as in the atom bomb or at the core of the Sun due to intense pressure of gravity) four hydrogen atoms merge to form a helium atom. This process involves loss in mass as shown. From the law of conservation of mass and energy which mathematically shows that mass and energy are interchangeable concepts, from e=mcc, that mass is energy released when destroyed as what must happen when four hydrogen atoms turn into one helium atom. This was taken as gospel truth by all the scientists who have for decades tried to create the temperatures required to turn hydrogen into helium in the lab. They have failed so far, despite billions of dollars spent and over 70 years of work.
>>
>> They have failed so far with "hot fusion" following the solar model. Which incidentally has to be false, for he core of the Sun or any large body like the Earth has to be very cold, if there is a magnetic field around them. But this is another story.
>>
>> Now in the 80s a phenomenon called "cold fusion" was announced by Fleishman and Pons. These were serious researchers whose work created tremendous attention. However these days one does not hear about them. I wonder why. A senior physicist I knew said that they were honest and diligent people, but they did not get the credit they deserved for their discovery. Most likely such was so as their work did not satisfy the "hot fusion" researchers who failed to see how on Earth repelling protons could fuse together in normal lab conditions.
>>
>> In the below article, I have shown how a 1 Megaton TNT hydrogen bomb explosion can be explained not by employing the law of conservation of mass and energy, but by pure and simple electrostatic repulsion of protons, that caused by breaking the nuclear bonding of the deuterium nucleus seen as two protons held by a single electron. The analysis shows how it is unnecessary to implement the law of conservation of mass and energy in the explanation for the hydrogen bomb phenomenon.
>>
>> To turn to cold fusion, now. If indeed there is no fusion of hydrogen to helium, simple disintegration of the deuterium nucleus instead, then such a phenomenon need not be dependent purely on a preceding nuclear blast causing beta and gamma rays. The disintegration of deuterium to form heat could well be done in the lab under certain phenomenon. That is most probably what happened in the experiments of Fleishman and Pons, but as fusion was mentioned, no one thought of deuterium fission. Till your present writer.
>>
>> ______________________________
>>
>> Analysis of the hydrogen bomb mathematically using internal forces instead of binding energies involving e=mcc
>>
>> The hydrogen bomb is supposedly the most powerful illustration of e=mcc, as the binding energies are involved somehow in fusing hydrogen and deuterium nuciei into helium.
>>
>> Let us suppose that is not true, holding e=mcc to be false to begin with.
>>
>> Further, let us hold that the deuterium nuclei is two protons held together by one electron which acts as a superglue joining two positive charges just about strong enough to make it NOT fly away when the nucleus is hit with a high energy electron along with gamma ray involving strong vibration - the latter typically caused by the normal atom bomb fissioning with strong induced radioactivity.
>>
>> Let us now see if we can explain the energy of a 1 Megaton TNT H-bomb using known electrostatic forces only, and not binding energies or strong force assumptions.
>>
>> The assertion now is that the deuterium atom, instead of fusing with a proton to form a tritium atom releasing extraordinary energy (the standard position now held, presented in all books, accepted by all institutions) what is really happening is that the electron can no longer hold the two protons together as a result of collision from a high energy electron (beta ray) along with gamma ray vibrations. In which case the two protons fly away from each other, repelled by their mutual positive charge.
>>
>> Let us see if this model works to explain the energies involved for a 1 Megaton TNT H-bomb explosion. As per google search, 1 Kg of TNT releases 1.67 x 10^9 joules. 1 Megaton (a million tons) would release 1.67 x 10^15 joules.
>>
>> Can simple formulas, known for decades, relating to electrostatics be used to show that fission as stated above will create such an energy?
>>
>> Let us get the basic data first, that is publicly known and found via google searching.
>>
>> mass of proton 1.67 x 10^-29 Kg
>> charge of proton 1.602 x 10^-19 coulombs
>> diameter of proton 10^-15 meter
>> k value is 8.98 x 10^9 MKAS units
>>
>> Using the formula for electrostatic attraction and repulsion, and assuming that at rest in the deuterim atom the protons were separated by two proton diameters, we present the age old formula
>>
>> F = k x q1 x q2/r^2 and putting in the values all in MKAS units
>> F = 8.98 x 10^9 x 1.602 x 10^-19 x 1.602 x 10^-19/(2 X 10^-15 x 2 x 10^-15)
>> or
>> F = 8.98 x 1.602^2 x 10^-29/(4 x 10^-30)
>> or
>> F1 = 57.6 Newtons
>>
>> So the fissioning of a deuterium nucleus leads to at the initial position a repulsive force of 57.6 newtons. This is very important.
>> We now see what energies are involved as a result of this electrostaic repulsion force.
>>
>> Let us consider the repulsive for the proton at a distance of 20 proton diameters, that is, when a single proton has moved away by 10 proton diameters or 10^-14m
>>
>> It is F = 8.98 x 1.602^2 x 10^-29/(20 x 10^-15 * 20 x 10^-15)
>> or
>> F2 = 0.576 Newtons
>>
>> Very roughly, the average force acting on the proton as it moves a distance of 10 proton diameters or 10^-14 m is the mean of these two values.
>>
>> The F = (F1 + F2)/2 = 29.088 Newtons
>>
>> The average acceleration of the proton from rest over the distance 10^-14m can be calculated from the formula F = ma or a = F/m,
>> or
>> a = 29.088/(1.67 x 10^-27)
>> or
>> a = 17.418 x 10^27 or 1.7418 x 10^28 meters per second square.
>>
>> The velocity of the proton after it has travelled 10^-14 m is obtained from the formula:
>>
>> V^2 = 2 x a x s where V is the velocity, s is the distance travelled under average acceleration a and the initial velocity is zero.
>> or
>> V^2 = 2 x 1.7418 x 10^28 x 10^-14
>> or
>> V^2 = 3.4836 x 10^14
>> and
>> V = 1.866 x 10^7 meters/second
>>
>> Now the kinetic energy of the single proton after it has travelled 10^-14m after fission is
>> 0.5 x m x V^2
>> or
>> 0.5 x 1.67 x 10^-27 x 3.4836 x 10^14
>> or
>> 2.9088 x 10^-13 joules.
>>
>> As there are two protons involved, the kinetic energy from a deuterium fission would be
>> 5.8 x 10^-13 joules
>>
>> Let us consider that in our bomb we have used M=100 Kg of heavy water.
>> Now 19 gms of deuterium water contain 6.023 x 10^23 molecules of heavy water as per Avogadro's formula.
>> So 100Kg will contain 100*1000/18 x 6.023 x 10^23 fissionable atoms or 3.17 x 10^27 atoms.
>>
>> If all these atoms fission in the hydrogen bomb explosion, then the total energy from just that will be:
>> 5.8 x 10^-13 x 3.17 x 10^27
>> = 18.38 x 10^14
>> = 1.838 x 10^15 joules.
>>
>> Now let us go back to see what is the energy yield from a 1 Megaton TNT H bomb.
>>
>> Its value is
>> 1.67 x 10^15 joules
>>
>> which is quite close to the value we have got of 1.838 x 10^15 joules and that, let me remind, is obtained by pure electrostatic internal forces caused by the repelled fissioned deuterium protons
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
>> Melbourne, 23/03/2020
>
>Looks like they got it, at last. It will take time to make proper power generators, to bolster the renewables.
>Then convert to hydrogen, and put it in the global HTN to solve all energy problems for all for all time.

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:46:04 +1100, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 16 December 2022 at 11:00:56 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:01:15 -0800 (PST), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Looks like they got it, at last. It will take time to make proper
>> >power generators, to bolster the renewables.
>> >Then convert to hydrogen, and put it in the global HTN to solve all
>> >energy problems for all for all time.
>> They haven't, still used more power that iy made and at huge expense
>
> But that was the story in the 1950s!
> Surely after so many decades and billions even the stupid Americans
> should have made SOME progress?

They just did.

Alzheimer Rod not doing so well in massaging his own ego.

/Autosnip all septic-trash and home grown troll inputs/

> They just did.

Did what? "Fission" Deuterium?????????

Don't think so! There no such thing in nuclear physics in this Universe.
This shows just how ignorant you and ilk are on basic science facts.

If you try to fission an atom that is only made up of a single proton
and a single neutron in its nucleus what do you think you get? I tell
you what you get after putting it through a cyclotron experiment using
bucket loads of energy...you get subatomic particles and that's it,
nothing more.

Thus you should know better, but you don't because your ego is over
inflated, you lack basic knowledge and you are learn resistant.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Ördög <newsgroup.devil@hell.incorporated.biz> wrote

>> They just did.

> Did what?

Says the pile of dogshit that just deleted all the context.

Alzheimer Rod is trying to hide his embarrassment

/Rod's deleted huge embarrassment instantly restored/

> Ördög
>> Alzheimer Rod posting away mindlessly
>>> They just did.
>>
>> Did what? "Fission" Deuterium?????????
>>
>> Don't think so! There no such thing in nuclear physics in this
>> Universe.
>> This shows just how ignorant you and ilk are on basic science facts.
>>
>> If you try to fission an atom that is only made up of a single proton
>> and a single neutron in its nucleus what do you think you get? I tell
>> you what you get after putting it through a cyclotron experiment
>> using bucket loads of energy...you get subatomic particles and that's
>> it, nothing more.
>>
>> Thus you should know better, but you don't because your ego is over
>> inflated, you lack basic knowledge and you are learn resistant.
>
> pile of dogshit
>
Are you the Usenet scatologist? Fits your personality quite well.
>
> deleted all the context.
>
For rational people the stated subject (Just look, it is in the header)
is certainly an important part of the discussion context.
Obviously you have ignored it completely and went on to a pissing
contest designed to polish your oversized ego and show you superiority
over all other posters in the newsgroup.

Thus you have fucked up and did so quite embarrassingly!

For you, senile old fart Alzheimer Rod, Usenet is only there to polish
your over-inflated ego. And now you pay the price for it!

:-P :-P :-P

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