England won the toss and elected to bat.
It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:14:57 PM UTC, Mike Holmans wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 14:00:53 GMT, johnson <ro...@example.net> wrote:
>
> >England won the toss and elected to bat.
> >It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
>
> So you're another idiot who thinks racism is OK. Good to know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike

46-4 at lunch

RH

In message <pkJVJ.78277$8b1.14848@usenetxs.com>, johnson
<root@example.net> writes
>England won the toss and elected to bat.
>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...

Given that they're playing the West Indies, it seems an appropriate
gesture.

For all their fine words in advance of the series, unfortunately in the
pre-lunch session no parsnips have been buttered.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On 2022-03-08, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 14:00:53 GMT, johnson <root@example.net> wrote:
>
>>England won the toss and elected to bat.
>>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
>
> So you're another idiot who thinks racism is OK. Good to know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>

hopeless non sequitur

On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 21:49:24 +0000, Mike Holmans <spam@jackalope.uk>
wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:30:53 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <pkJVJ.78277$8b1.14848@usenetxs.com>, johnson
>><root@example.net> writes
>>>England won the toss and elected to bat.
>>>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
>>
>>Given that they're playing the West Indies, it seems an appropriate
>>gesture.
>>
>>For all their fine words in advance of the series, unfortunately in the
>>pre-lunch session no parsnips have been buttered.
>
>I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>good at it.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mike

Parsnip buttering? For the wealthy elite only I'm sure. Sit down there
and butter yourself a turnip and I'll tell you all about it.

max.it

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On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 3:49:51 AM UTC+11, Mike Holmans wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:30:53 +0000, John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >In message <pkJVJ.78277$8b1....@usenetxs.com>, johnson
> ><ro...@example.net> writes
> >>England won the toss and elected to bat.
> >>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
> >
> >Given that they're playing the West Indies, it seems an appropriate
> >gesture.
> >
> >For all their fine words in advance of the series, unfortunately in the
> >pre-lunch session no parsnips have been buttered.
> Perhaps they don't like parsnips. Neither do I: the only acceptable
> way to cook parsnips is to slice them thinly and throw them away.
>
Feed them to a pig, make bacon.

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:05:54 PM UTC, johnson wrote:
> On 2022-03-08, Mike Holmans <sp...@jackalope.uk> wrote:
> > On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 14:00:53 GMT, johnson <ro...@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >>England won the toss and elected to bat.
> >>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
> >
> > So you're another idiot who thinks racism is OK. Good to know.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> hopeless non sequitur

Quite.You are new in these parts. I'm afraid many of the group members are what might be called liberal bigots who posture and yell "racism" as often as they can. RH

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 6:51:49 PM UTC+10, RH wrote:
> I'm afraid

You should be. Your type are slowing dying out.

In message <f62f2hlau282ldjp271n8m1hu5drbu8elk@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
<spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:30:53 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <pkJVJ.78277$8b1.14848@usenetxs.com>, johnson
>><root@example.net> writes
>>>England won the toss and elected to bat.
>>>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
>>
>>Given that they're playing the West Indies, it seems an appropriate
>>gesture.
>>
>>For all their fine words in advance of the series, unfortunately in the
>>pre-lunch session no parsnips have been buttered.
>
>Perhaps they don't like parsnips. Neither do I: the only acceptable
>way to cook parsnips is to slice them thinly and throw them away.

I used to think I didn't like parsnips until Christmas dinner came with
roast parsnips one year, and I discovered that they were delicious,
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jimlkvcq74skercfdb1iq@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
<spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 16:30:53 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <pkJVJ.78277$8b1.14848@usenetxs.com>, johnson
>><root@example.net> writes
>>>England won the toss and elected to bat.
>>>It seems that they're still indulging in 'taking the knee'...
>>
>>Given that they're playing the West Indies, it seems an appropriate
>>gesture.
>>
>>For all their fine words in advance of the series, unfortunately in the
>>pre-lunch session no parsnips have been buttered.
>
>I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>good at it.

He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable. (Apparently
this is the first time that all three have appeared in the same England
side.) Admittedly conditions had eased a little by the time they came
in, but I don't think they were ever tricky enough to account for having
been 48-4.

I though that Foakes' straight drive off the back foot early in his
innings, that went back past the bowler like a tracer bullet, was the
shot of the day.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 9:12:13 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 6:51:49 PM UTC+10, RH wrote:
> > I'm afraid
>
> You should be. Your type are slowing dying out.

Fantasy and incomprehension about human nature combined. Classic liberal bigotry... RH

On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jimlkvcq74skercfdb1iq@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>> good at it.
>
> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable. (Apparently
> this is the first time that all three have appeared in the same England
> side.)

Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since Foakes
made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for his
sole T20 in 2019.

--
David North

In message <j8rt16Fm2ioU1@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jimlkvcq74skercfdb1iq@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
>>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>>> good at it.
>> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
>>(Apparently this is the first time that all three have appeared in
>>the same England side.)
>
>Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
>so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
>Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
>his sole T20 in 2019.
>
>

Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

In message <lf6i2h95s580na5vquard3nkdfrkgj6ljl@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
<spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 20:45:33 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <j8rt16Fm2ioU1@mid.individual.net>, David North
>><nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>>On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
>>>> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jimlkvcq74skercfdb1iq@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
>>>>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>>>>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>>>>> good at it.
>>>> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
>>>>(Apparently this is the first time that all three have appeared in
>>>>the same England side.)
>>>
>>>Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
>>>so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
>>>Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
>>>his sole T20 in 2019.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
>>Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
>>umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
>>Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
>
>And most of them spell their name "Brathwaite".

So they do. Somehow I'd never noticed. I suppose it's like "Paris in the
the spring", and you see what you expect to see. Perhaps the spelling is
a West Indian variant, as I think British Braithwaites mostly have the
"i" - or have I been getting that wrong all these years too?
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On 09/03/2022 22:08, John Hall wrote:
> In message <lf6i2h95s580na5vquard3nkdfrkgj6ljl@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
> <spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 20:45:33 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <j8rt16Fm2ioU1@mid.individual.net>, David North
>>> <nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>>>> On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
>>>>> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jimlkvcq74skercfdb1iq@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
>>>>>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
>>>>>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
>>>>>> good at it.
>>>>>  He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
>>>>> (Apparently  this is the first time that all three have appeared in
>>>>> the same England  side.)
>>>>
>>>> Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
>>>> so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
>>>> Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
>>>> his sole T20 in 2019.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
>>> Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
>>> umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
>>> Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
>>
>> And most of them spell their name "Brathwaite".
>
> So they do. Somehow I'd never noticed. I suppose it's like "Paris in the
> the spring", and you see what you expect to see. Perhaps the spelling is
> a West Indian variant, as I think British Braithwaites mostly have the
> "i" - or have I been getting that wrong all these years too?

No, you're right. Looking at those listed on CricketArchive, the
Brathwaites are largely West Indian, especially Barbadian, whereas the
Braithwaites are mostly English.

I am not surprised to find that there was a family of plantation owners
named Brathwaite in Barbados.

https://eehe.org.uk/?p=33229

--
David North

In message <qiai2hhab6mfe3f3ivbva2smh7h85sr6i4@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
<spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 22:08:42 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <lf6i2h95s580na5vquard3nkdfrkgj6ljl@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
>><spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>>>On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 20:45:33 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
>>>>Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
>>>>umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
>>>>Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
>>>
>>>And most of them spell their name "Brathwaite".
>>
>>So they do. Somehow I'd never noticed. I suppose it's like "Paris in the
>>the spring", and you see what you expect to see. Perhaps the spelling is
>>a West Indian variant, as I think British Braithwaites mostly have the
>>"i" - or have I been getting that wrong all these years too?
>
>The only Braithwaite I know personally has two "i"s.

A vague memory has now come back to me of my making exactly the same
mistake with Kraigg Brathwaite's name five years ago when, with Shai
Hope, he helped WI to that remarkable win at Headingley, and your
correcting me then, which is rather embarrassing.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 09:02:46 +0000, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <qiai2hhab6mfe3f3ivbva2smh7h85sr6i4@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
><spam@jackalope.uk> writes

>>
>>The only Braithwaite I know personally has two "i"s.
>
>A vague memory has now come back to me of my making exactly the same
>mistake with Kraigg Brathwaite's name five years ago when, with Shai
>Hope, he helped WI to that remarkable win at Headingley, and your
>correcting me then, which is rather embarrassing.

Only to you, because I don't remember that. It's probably because I
know a real Braithwaite and therefore notice when all these West
Indians spell it wrong.

Anyway, you get a gold star for spelling Kraigg the way he spells it,
because I bet nobody would guess that spelling if they just heard it.

Cheers,

Mike

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 8:49:23 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
> In message <j8rt16...@mid.individual.net>, David North
> <nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> >On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
> >> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jiml...@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
> >>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
> >>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
> >>> good at it.
> >> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
> >>(Apparently this is the first time that all three have appeared in
> >>the same England side.)
> >
> >Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
> >so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
> >Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
> >his sole T20 in 2019.
> >
> >
> Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
> Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
> umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
> Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
> --
> John Hall
> "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
> But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
> Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

Braitthwaite will have been the name of a slave owner on Barbados. Freed slaves frequent took their ex owners' surname. RH

On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 14:09:53 UTC, RH wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 8:49:23 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
> > In message <j8rt16...@mid.individual.net>, David North
> > <nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> > >On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
> > >> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jiml...@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
> > >>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
> > >>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
> > >>> good at it.
> > >> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
> > >>(Apparently this is the first time that all three have appeared in
> > >>the same England side.)
> > >
> > >Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
> > >so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
> > >Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
> > >his sole T20 in 2019.
> > >
> > >
> > Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
> > Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
> > umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
> > Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
> > --
> > John Hall
> > "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
> > But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
> > Ogden Nash (1902-1971)
> Braitthwaite will have been the name of a slave owner on Barbados. Freed slaves frequent took their ex owners' surname. RH

Everyone apart from you obviously learned all about John Brathwaite and his plantation, 10 hours ago thanks to an article posted here by David North.
Don't you even read the posts that you respond to?
Like I said before you are an idiot.

On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 12:09:53 AM UTC+10, RH wrote:
> Freed slaves frequent took their ex owners' surname. RH

They weren't "owned". They were enslaved.

In message <upqj2hhii029841933nosoka6tce4vrno7@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
<spam@jackalope.uk> writes
>Anyway, you get a gold star for spelling Kraigg the way he spells it,
>because I bet nobody would guess that spelling if they just heard it.

It's such a weird spelling that - having seen it in print - it's
impossible to forget. I wonder if Craig Overton will be tempted to
revise his name to Kraigg Overton.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:35:42 PM UTC, Najeeb ybo wrote:
> On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 14:09:53 UTC, RH wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 8:49:23 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
> > > In message <j8rt16...@mid.individual.net>, David North
> > > <nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
> > > >On 09/03/2022 10:30, John Hall wrote:
> > > >> In message <tnjf2ht61vut1jiml...@4ax.com>, Mike Holmans
> > > >>> I think it reasonable to say that in the unlikely event of
> > > >>> parsnip-buttering being a good thing, Mr Bairstow seems to be quite
> > > >>> good at it.
> > > >> He does, and Stokes, Foakes and Woakes were also laudable.
> > > >>(Apparently this is the first time that all three have appeared in
> > > >>the same England side.)
> > > >
> > > >Never mind Stokes, it's the first time that Foakes and Woakes have done
> > > >so - mainly because Woakes has played very few away matches since
> > > >Foakes made his debut, while Foakes has yet to play at home, except for
> > > >his sole T20 in 2019.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Talking of names, there seems to be a glut of Braithwaites. Kraigg
> > > Braithwaite is captaining the WI, Gregory Braithwaite is one of the
> > > umpires (and seems to have got most of his decisions right), and Carlos
> > > Braithwaite is a pundit in the BT Sport studio.
> > > --
> > > John Hall
> > > "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
> > > But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
> > > Ogden Nash (1902-1971)
> > Braitthwaite will have been the name of a slave owner on Barbados. Freed slaves frequent took their ex owners' surname. RH
> Everyone apart from you obviously learned all about John Brathwaite and his plantation, 10 hours ago thanks to an article posted here by David North.
> Don't you even read the posts that you respond to?
> Like I said before you are an idiot.

Cite the post you claim David North made which included the info about slave names deriving from, slave owners ... RH