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The first Test v Windies

Jack Leach

43.3 20 79 2 First innings

30.1 14 57 3 Second innings

73.4 34 138 5 Match

RH

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You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .

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On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .

Leach

Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0

Moeen Ali
Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1

Adil Rashid
Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0

Next!

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 by: RH - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:09 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:50:04 AM UTC, RH wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> > Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
> Leach
>
> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
>
> Moeen Ali
> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
>
> Adil Rashid
> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
>
>
> Next!
>
> RH
Leach clearly beats Moeen and Adil on

Average

Leach 31.72
Moeen 36.66
Adil 39.83

Economy

Leach 3.02
Moeen 3.61
Adil 3.75

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 by: RH - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:43 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> >> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
> >
> > Leach
> >
> > Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> > Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
> >
> > Moeen Ali
> > Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> > Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
> >
> > Adil Rashid
> > Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> > Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
> >
> >
> > Next!
> >
> > RH
> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
> with Jack Leach.
>
>
> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
>
>
>
> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.

Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH

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 by: RH - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:48 UTC

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> >>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
> >>>
> >>> Leach
> >>>
> >>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
> >>>
> >>> Moeen Ali
> >>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
> >>>
> >>> Adil Rashid
> >>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Next!
> >>>
> >>> RH
> >> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
> >> with Jack Leach.
> >>
> >>
> >> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
> >> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
> >
> > Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
>
>
> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
>
>
> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
> batsmen friendly than today.

Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH

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 by: David North - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:11 UTC

On 13/03/2022 15:48, RH wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
>>>>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
>>>>>
>>>>> Leach
>>>>>
>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
>>>>>
>>>>> Moeen Ali
>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Adil Rashid
>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Next!
>>>>>
>>>>> RH
>>>> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
>>>> with Jack Leach.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
>>>> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
>>>
>>> Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
>> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
>> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
>>
>>
>> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
>> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
>> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
>>
>>
>> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
>> batsmen friendly than today.
>
> Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH

Panesar played 28% of his Tests in Asia, Leach 45%.

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On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:11:09 PM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 13/03/2022 15:48, RH wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >>>> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> >>>>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leach
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moeen Ali
> >>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adil Rashid
> >>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Next!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RH
> >>>> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
> >>>> with Jack Leach.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
> >>>> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
> >>>
> >>> Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
> >> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
> >> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
> >>
> >>
> >> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
> >> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
> >> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
> >>
> >>
> >> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
> >> batsmen friendly than today.
> >
> > Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH
> Panesar played 28% of his Tests in Asia, Leach 45%.
>
> --
> David North

Panesar played in far more Tests than Leach . RH

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 by: David North - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 03:08 UTC

On 13/03/2022 17:53, RH wrote:
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:11:09 PM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>> On 13/03/2022 15:48, RH wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>>> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
>>>>>>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leach
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moeen Ali
>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adil Rashid
>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RH
>>>>>> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
>>>>>> with Jack Leach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
>>>>>> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
>>>> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
>>>> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
>>>> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
>>>> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
>>>> batsmen friendly than today.
>>>
>>> Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH
>> Panesar played 28% of his Tests in Asia, Leach 45%.
>
> Panesar played in far more Tests than Leach . RH

So what?

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On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 3:08:41 AM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 13/03/2022 17:53, RH wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:11:09 PM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> >> On 13/03/2022 15:48, RH wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >>>> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >>>>>> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
> >>>>>>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Leach
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>>>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Moeen Ali
> >>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>>>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Adil Rashid
> >>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
> >>>>>>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Next!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RH
> >>>>>> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
> >>>>>> with Jack Leach.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
> >>>>>> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
> >>>> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
> >>>> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
> >>>> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
> >>>> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
> >>>> batsmen friendly than today.
> >>>
> >>> Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH
> >> Panesar played 28% of his Tests in Asia, Leach 45%.
> >
> > Panesar played in far more Tests than Leach . RH
> So what?
>
> --
> David North

The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .

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> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .

And Leach is white! RH

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 by: RH - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:22 UTC

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:11:12 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .
> And Leach is white! RH

More lying libellous forgery RH

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 by: David North - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 07:51 UTC

On 16/03/2022 07:51, RH wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 3:08:41 AM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>> On 13/03/2022 17:53, RH wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 5:11:09 PM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
>>>> On 13/03/2022 15:48, RH wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 11:23:50 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/13/2022 1:43 AM, RH wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:41:07 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2022 11:50 PM, RH wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:59:58 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You're ignoring, I'm not shocked, the times he hasn't been able to hold an end.
>>>>>>>>>> Just like all the times you ignored when non-white English spinners did hold an end .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leach
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>>>> Test 20 34 4588 2316 73 5/83 8/153 31.72 3.02 62.8 7 2 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Moeen Ali
>>>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>>>> Test 64 112 11854 7149 195 6/53 10/112 36.66 3.610.7 13 5 1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adil Rashid
>>>>>>>>> Format Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10w
>>>>>>>>> Test 19 34 3816 2390 60 5/49 7/178 39.83 3.75 63.6 5 2 0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RH
>>>>>>>> Moeen Ali is a "batting allrounder", NOT a pure bowler to be compared
>>>>>>>> with Jack Leach.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adil Rashid was dropped from the team after 19 tests. He is considered
>>>>>>>> more a ODI/T20 player anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Monty Panesar is pretty close to Leach with 34.71 avg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nearly 3 runs a wicket more than Leach. Next! RH
>>>>>> Whether it is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference is too
>>>>>> small to draw any conclusions in a 20 test sample.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You keep proving every day in every thread you are a LOW IQ lunatic
>>>>>> racist senile moron who should be LOCKED UP in a mental asylum or even
>>>>>> better euthanized like a mad dog, to SAVE VALUABLE OXYGEN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More over if I am not mistaken Panesar played when pitches were more
>>>>>> batsmen friendly than today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. He often played on spin friendly pitcher on the sub continents and the Middle East ... RH
>>>> Panesar played 28% of his Tests in Asia, Leach 45%.
>>>
>>> Panesar played in far more Tests than Leach . RH
>> So what?
>
> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries.

That's a load of meaningless drivel. We *know* how many opportunities
each of them (has) had on Asian pitches. Panesar had 14, 56% more than
Leach's 9. However, Panesar played 227% more matches (36) outside Asia
than Leach has (11).

> Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him.

Only in 11 Tests out of 50.

Leach has the advantage of DRS, which was only in use for about 8 of
Panesar's Tests.

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 by: David North - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 07:56 UTC

On 16/03/2022 10:22, RH wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:11:12 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .
>> And Leach is white! RH
>
> More lying libellous forgery RH

So not only do you not know the meaning of "forgery", you don't know the
meanings of "lying" or "libellous" either.

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 by: RH - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 09:44 UTC

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:56:24 AM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> On 16/03/2022 10:22, RH wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:11:12 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .
> >> And Leach is white! RH
> >
> > More lying libellous forgery RH
> So not only do you not know the meaning of "forgery", you don't know the
> meanings of "lying" or "libellous" either.
>
> --
> David North

Now let me see, one of the liberal bigot creatures faked a post so it purported to have been written by me = forgery

The forged post contained falsehoods about me = libel...

Next!!!!
RH

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 by: RH - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:33 UTC

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 10:27:55 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> On 3/17/2022 2:44 AM, RH wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:56:24 AM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
> >> On 16/03/2022 10:22, RH wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:11:12 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .
> >>>> And Leach is white! RH
> >>>
> >>> More lying libellous forgery RH
> >> So not only do you not know the meaning of "forgery", you don't know the
> >> meanings of "lying" or "libellous" either.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David North
> >
> >
> > Now let me see, one of the liberal bigot creatures faked a post so it purported to have been written by me = forgery
> >
> > The forged post contained falsehoods about me = libel...
> >
> > Next!!!!
> > RH
> It is NOT forgery, you pathologically LYING TWISTING SPINNING filthy
> racist lunatic clown.
>
> It is called SARCASM.
>
>
> It is NOT libel, cuz they are NOT FALSEHOODS but "PURE FACTS".
>
>
> You PRAISED Leach because he is WHITE.
>
> Everything else remaining the same, IF Leach is POC, you would have
> INSULTED Leach for his record.
>
>
> NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Translation: I compared Leach's FC record with those of with Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali and Monty Panesar and Leach came out top in terms of average and economy. RH

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On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 3:33:56 AM UTC+11, RH wrote:
> Translation: I compared Leach's FC record with those of with Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali and Monty Panesar and Leach came out top in terms of average and economy. RH

You compared test records, not first class records

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 by: RH - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 08:26 UTC

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:37:29 AM UTC, hamis...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 3:33:56 AM UTC+11, RH wrote:
> > Translation: I compared Leach's FC record with those of with Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali and Monty Panesar and Leach came out top in terms of average and economy. RH
> You compared test records, not first class records

Just a slip of the keyboard... RH

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 by: RH - Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:30 UTC

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 1:32:08 PM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> On 3/17/2022 9:33 AM, RH wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 10:27:55 AM UTC, FBInCIAnNSATerroristSlayer wrote:
> >> On 3/17/2022 2:44 AM, RH wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:56:24 AM UTC, nos...@lane-farm.fsnet..co.uk wrote:
> >>>> On 16/03/2022 10:22, RH wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:11:12 AM UTC, jzfre...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> The more Tests played in the more opportunity to play in spin friendly pitches because spinners will tend to be preferentially picked for Sri Lankan, subcontinental and Gulf pitches rather than simply having a similar proportion of Tests in those countries. Moreover, in the case of Panesar he had the great advantage of having a spinner of real Test quality in Swan bowling in tandem with him. The England team was also h stronger during Panesar';s time than they have been in Leach's England career. RH .
> >>>>>> And Leach is white! RH
> >>>>>
> >>>>> More lying libellous forgery RH
> >>>> So not only do you not know the meaning of "forgery", you don't know the
> >>>> meanings of "lying" or "libellous" either.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> David North
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Now let me see, one of the liberal bigot creatures faked a post so it purported to have been written by me = forgery
> >>>
> >>> The forged post contained falsehoods about me = libel...
> >>>
> >>> Next!!!!
> >>> RH
> >> It is NOT forgery, you pathologically LYING TWISTING SPINNING filthy
> >> racist lunatic clown.
> >>
> >> It is called SARCASM.
> >>
> >>
> >> It is NOT libel, cuz they are NOT FALSEHOODS but "PURE FACTS".
> >>
> >>
> >> You PRAISED Leach because he is WHITE.
> >>
> >> Everything else remaining the same, IF Leach is POC, you would have
> >> INSULTED Leach for his record.
> >>
> >>
> >> NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Translation: I compared Leach's FC record with those of with Adil Rashid, Moeen Ali and Monty Panesar and Leach came out top in terms of average and economy. RH
> Translation:
>
>
> Robert Henderson DOESN'T know a shit about cricket and for that matter
> ANYTHING about ANYTHING.
>
>
> Moeen Ali is an ALL ROUNDER, he is NOT a pure bowler to be compared with
> Leach.
>
>
> Adil Rashid played 19 tests and dumped from test team for average
> performance.
>
>
> Whether the average is 31.72 or 34.71 doesn't matter cuz the difference
> between Panesar and Leach is too small to draw any conclusions in a 20
> test sample of Leach.

Irrelevant to the question of his quality as a bowler. Next! RH

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