Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> Petzl wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$ updated
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8, I
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS, even
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured out
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just before
>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to
>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>
>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>
>>>> No it will not.
>>>>
>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>
>>And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by one
>>article.
>>
> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?

Thats not INSIST ON ITS USE.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>On 24/10/2021 4:59 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 15:06:59 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/10/2021 12:47 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 13:43:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>>>>>>> out how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Real
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>>>>> before 10
>>>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move
>>>>>>>>>> to 10
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it will not.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>>>
>>>> And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by
>>>> one
>>>> article.
>>>>
>>> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?
>>>
>>I'll tell you when my laptop gets update to W11, but whether its
>>installed or not, you don't have to use it.
>>
> Some reports sugest because of Microsofts security beliefs you will
> have to!

Just because some fool claims something...

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:44:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>On 24/10/2021 4:59 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 15:06:59 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 24/10/2021 12:47 pm, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 13:43:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Real
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>>>>>> before 10
>>>>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move
>>>>>>>>>>> to 10
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it will not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>>>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>>>>
>>>>> And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by
>>>>> one
>>>>> article.
>>>>>
>>>> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?
>>>>
>>>I'll tell you when my laptop gets update to W11, but whether its
>>>installed or not, you don't have to use it.
>>>
>> Some reports sugest because of Microsofts security beliefs you will
>> have to!
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
Until WIN11 comes out all hearsay
Don't have any hopes that WIN11 will be nothing but another arse act.
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:42:50 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> Petzl wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS, even
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured out
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just before
>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to
>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>>
>>>>> No it will not.
>>>>>
>>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>>
>>>And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by one
>>>article.
>>>
>> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?
>
>Thats not INSIST ON ITS USE.
>
From some accounts out there it may well be.
Would you use it even now?
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 03:40:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>
>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$ updated
>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8, I
>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS, even
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured out
>>>>>> >>> how
>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop, because
>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket, thinking
>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it for
>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize old
>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux (or
>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just before
>>>>>> > 10
>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>> > long
>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to 10
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because you
>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>
>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled back
>>>>>to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc., less/no
>>>>>control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems, etc..
>>>>>And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>
>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>
>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>
>>>No it will not.
>
>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>
>It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
>anyway.
>
>> You use Edge browser?
>
>Nope.
>
Same here but for purposes here I went to here
https://eztv.re/ torrents TV site
Even Microsoft crapware Edge browser has no defense from this!
get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
Now WIN11 will maybe insist on it's use!

--
Petzl
Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

"My first act as Premier will be to raise the speed limit, lower the
fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.
Thank you " Craig Kelly One Nation

At least he is a *native born Australian*
BOTH parents and him born in Australia, something that needs to be
added to our constitution for Politicians, remove a big lump of Labor
seats and makes Labor a better party as it will with Coalition and
other parties
You disagree?
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within

On 25/10/2021 3:40 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>
>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>> updated >>>> it
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8, I
>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS, even
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac).  LOL
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>> out >>> how
>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize old
>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>> (or
>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>> before > 10
>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>> > long
>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to 10
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ?  Is it because
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled back
>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>> less/no
>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>> etc..
>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>
>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>
>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>
>>> No it will not.
>
>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>
> It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
> anyway.
>
>> You use Edge browser?
>
> Nope.

Why not? MS regards it as a superior browser.

On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:21:56 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>On 25/10/2021 3:40 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>> updated >>>> it
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8, I
>>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS, even
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac).  LOL
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>     Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>> out >>> how
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>     But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>     For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize old
>>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>> before > 10
>>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>>> > long
>>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >    So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to 10
>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ?  Is it because
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled back
>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>
>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>
>>>> No it will not.
>>
>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>
>> It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
>> anyway.
>>
>>> You use Edge browser?
>>
>> Nope.
>
>Why not? MS regards it as a superior browser.
>
Yep
<https://www.theverge.com/22630319/microsoft-windows-11-default-browser-changes>
https://t.ly/Gvl9
Microsoft’s upcoming release of Windows 11 will make it even harder to
switch default browsers and ignores browser defaults in new areas of
the operating system. While Microsoft is making many positive changes
to the Windows 11 UI, the default apps experience is a step back and
browser competitors like Mozilla, Opera, and Vivaldi are concerned.

In Windows 11, Microsoft has changed the way you set default apps.
Like Windows 10, there’s a prompt that appears when you install a new
browser and open a web link for the first time. It’s the only
opportunity to easily switch browsers, though. Unless you tick “always
use this app,” the default will never be changed.
--
Petzl
Australian's continue to vote for and believe slogans?

"My first act as Premier will be to raise the speed limit, lower the
fines, cancel the tolls. ban any future virus lock downs.
Thank you " Craig Kelly One Nation

At least he is a *native born Australian*
BOTH parents and him born in Australia, something that needs to be
added to our constitution for Politicians, remove a big lump of Labor
seats and makes Labor a better party as it will with Coalition and
other parties
You disagree?

On 25/10/2021 3:40 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>
>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>> updated >>>> it
>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was
>>>>>> Win8, I
>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac).  LOL
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>> out >>> how
>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses
>>>>>> it for
>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so
>>>>>> Linux (or
>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>> before > 10
>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>> > long
>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move
>>>>>> to 10
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ?  Is it
>>>>>> because you
>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>> back
>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>> less/no
>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>> etc..
>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>
>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>
>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>
>>> No it will not.
>
>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>
> It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
> anyway.
>
>> You use Edge browser?
>
> Nope.

Edge is riddled with ads even the news feed

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to
>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it will not.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>>>
>>>>And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by one
>>>>article.
>>>>
>>> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?
>>
>>Thats not INSIST ON ITS USE.
>>
> From some accounts out there it may well be.

> Would you use it even now?

If it offers something that the alternatives don't.

But I prefer a browser that has the history on both the PC and the iphone.

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>> updated >>>> it
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8,
>>>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>> >>>> even
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>> out >>> how
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>> > old
>>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>> before > 10
>>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>>> > long
>>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to
>>>>>>> > 10
>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>
>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>
>>>> No it will not.
>>
>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>
>> It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
>> anyway.
>>
>>> You use Edge browser?
>>
>> Nope.

> Why not?

I prefer a browser that has a common
history on the PC and the iphones.

> MS regards it as a superior browser.

It made the same claim about IE but the only
thing it did better than the alternatives was
the right mouse click options in the vertical
scroll bar which were the same as those in
Explorer etc. Don’t actually use it much in
a browser anymore.

Yosemite Sam <felix@invalid.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>> updated >>>> it
>>>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>> >>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8, nowhere
>>>>>>> >>>> near it
>>>>>>> >>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was
>>>>>>> Win8, I
>>>>>>> >>>> could
>>>>>>> >>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>> >>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>> out >>> how
>>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>>> >>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>> >>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>> >>> computers, they
>>>>>>> >>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>>> >>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> >>> it
>>>>>>> >>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses
>>>>>>> it for
>>>>>>> >> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>> > slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so
>>>>>>> Linux (or
>>>>>>> > ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>> > company-dependent
>>>>>>> > - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>> before > 10
>>>>>>> > came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by a
>>>>>>> > long
>>>>>>> > shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move
>>>>>>> to 10
>>>>>>> > and
>>>>>>> > when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>
>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>
>>>> No it will not.
>>
>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>
>> It says nothing of the kind and whatever it said, that claim is a lie
>> anyway.
>>
>>> You use Edge browser?
>>
>> Nope.

> Edge is riddled with ads even the news feed

I don’t bother to suppress ads.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 04:49:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8 was indeed a steaming crock of shit which is why M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win8.1 post haste. I can't say Win10 is as bad as Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact! If a person's first experience of computers was Win8,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagine that would be enough to drive them to any other OS,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *dark side* (Mac). LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 8.1 was/is not all that bad, once you've figured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get rid of the Fischer Price GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But that indeed only works for those who were used to Real
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows (TM).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those for whom 8[.1] was their first experience of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computers, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be in dire need for a clothing repair shop,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have tried to put the device in their shirt pocket,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was some kind of gigantic smartphone.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The wife is perfectly happy with 8.1, but then she just uses it
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail and a bit of web browsing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Same here, but my wife also uses a slide scanner to digitize
>>>>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>> slides, so she needs software support for that scanner, so Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>>>>>> ChromeOS or macOS) isn't really an option. Same for -
>>>>>>>>>>> company-dependent
>>>>>>>>>>> - software for making printed photo albums.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also quite happy with 8.1. I got my 8.1. laptop just
>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>>> came out and when it came out, it wasn't ready for prime time by
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>> shot, so I rolled-back to 8.1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So we'll try to finish the 8.1 ride till we 'have to' move to
>>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> when 10 support ends, we'll reconsider our choices.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is your reason for sticking with version 8.1 ? Is it because
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> don't think your hardware can cope with version 10 ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I wrote, when 10 came out, I shortly tried 10 and then rolled
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> to 8.1, so I still could go to 10 if I wanted, but I don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not? No advantages, less control over configuration, etc.,
>>>>>>>>> less/no
>>>>>>>>> control over updates, weird update scheme with frequent problems,
>>>>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>>>> And, don't fix what ain't broken.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even Microsoft crapware browser has no defense from this!
>>>>>>>> get these false notifications, neither Firefox or opera allow this!
>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/vXSPqsd
>>>>>>>> if you hit any of these so-called notification links your computer
>>>>>>>> passwords etc will be handed over to hackers!
>>>>>>>> Edge IE explorer needs uninstalling urgently
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now WIN11 will insist on it's use!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it will not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Showed a link to a article that says they will
>>>>>> You use Edge browser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>And I showed two links to articles that say you won't so you lose by one
>>>>>article.
>>>>>
>>>> So one can unistall this rubbish you think?
>>>
>>>Thats not INSIST ON ITS USE.
>>>
>> From some accounts out there it may well be.
>
>> Would you use it even now?
>
>If it offers something that the alternatives don't.
>
>But I prefer a browser that has the history on both the PC and the iphone.
>
Microsoft are claiming they will allow Microsoft Extenyions with WIN11
I remeber when IE came out for it's time it was the "better broom"

Right now EDGE is just dangerous computer crap
--
Petzl
Australia will never be destroyed from the outside.
If we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we were destroyed from the rot within