Fraud in Victoria and Crimes of Deception
Fraud in Victoria includes a number of offences involving deception,
including the offences of obtaining property by deception, obtaining
financial advantage by deception, falsification of documents and false
accounting. This article outlines offences related to fraud in Victoria.

Obtaining property by deception
The offence of obtaining property by deception is contained in section
81 of the Crimes Act 1958 which states that it is a crime for a person
to act deceptively and with dishonesty obtain or acquire property that
belongs to someone else. The offence requires an intention to
permanently deprive the rightful owner of the property.

The offence of obtaining property by deception carries a maximum penalty
of ten years imprisonment.

The term property is given a wide meaning under section 71 of the Crimes
Act 1958. It includes all real and personal property, and specifically
includes money and intangible property. The property that is obtained
must belong to another. Property will be considered to belong to
somebody else when that person has possession or control of it, or has a
legal right or interest in the property. This is in comparison to
property which has clearly been abandoned.

Obtaining financial advantage by deception
The offence of obtaining financial advantage by deception is governed by
section 82 of the Crimes Act. It occurs when a person dishonestly
obtains a financial advantage for themselves or for another person.

This offence attracts a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment.

The requirements of deception and dishonesty have been given the same
meaning as the other offences of fraud in Victoria. The term financial
advantage has been given a broad interpretation. It essentially means
something that improves the financial situation of the person in question.

What is deception?
The term deception is given a particular legal meaning when discussing
fraud in Victoria. Deception is defined in section 81(4) of the Crimes
Act 1958. It includes words or conduct as to matters of fact or law that
are deceitful about the true nature of things.

The law also expressly provides that it is deceitful to do something
with a machine or a computer with the intention to make it respond in a
way which you do not have the authority to do. For example, it would be
deceitful to use somebody else’s bank card and PIN to withdraw money
from an Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) without that person having first
authorised you to do so.

In order to be considered deception, the accused’s conduct or words must
be either intentional or reckless. To behave in a reckless way is
essentially to say or do something knowing that there is a substantial
risk that it might be deceptive, but carrying on anyway.

It is also necessary for the deception to actually play a part in
obtaining the property. That is, there must be a cause and effect
relationship between the deception and property actually being obtained.

What is dishonesty?
For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief that
they had a legal right

On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:

Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.

Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.

> Fraud in Victoria and Crimes of Deception
> Fraud in Victoria includes a number of offences involving deception,
> including the offences of obtaining property by deception, obtaining
> financial advantage by deception, falsification of documents and false
> accounting. This article outlines offences related to fraud in Victoria.
>
> Obtaining property by deception
> The offence of obtaining property by deception is contained in section
> 81 of the Crimes Act 1958 which states that it is a crime for a person
> to act deceptively and with dishonesty obtain or acquire property that
> belongs to someone else. The offence requires an intention to
> permanently deprive the rightful owner of the property.
>
> The offence of obtaining property by deception carries a maximum penalty
> of ten years imprisonment.
>
> The term property is given a wide meaning under section 71 of the Crimes
> Act 1958. It includes all real and personal property, and specifically
> includes money and intangible property. The property that is obtained
> must belong to another. Property will be considered to belong to
> somebody else when that person has possession or control of it, or has a
> legal right or interest in the property. This is in comparison to
> property which has clearly been abandoned.
>
> Obtaining financial advantage by deception
> The offence of obtaining financial advantage by deception is governed by
> section 82 of the Crimes Act. It occurs when a person dishonestly
> obtains a financial advantage for themselves or for another person.
>
> This offence attracts a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment.
>
> The requirements of deception and dishonesty have been given the same
> meaning as the other offences of fraud in Victoria. The term financial
> advantage has been given a broad interpretation. It essentially means
> something that improves the financial situation of the person in question.
>
> What is deception?
> The term deception is given a particular legal meaning when discussing
> fraud in Victoria. Deception is defined in section 81(4) of the Crimes
> Act 1958. It includes words or conduct as to matters of fact or law that
> are deceitful about the true nature of things.
>
> The law also expressly provides that it is deceitful to do something
> with a machine or a computer with the intention to make it respond in a
> way which you do not have the authority to do. For example, it would be
> deceitful to use somebody else’s bank card and PIN to withdraw money
> from an Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) without that person having first
> authorised you to do so.
>
> In order to be considered deception, the accused’s conduct or words must
> be either intentional or reckless. To behave in a reckless way is
> essentially to say or do something knowing that there is a substantial
> risk that it might be deceptive, but carrying on anyway.
>
> It is also necessary for the deception to actually play a part in
> obtaining the property. That is, there must be a cause and effect
> relationship between the deception and property actually being obtained.
>
> What is dishonesty?
> For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
> carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
> purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief that
> they had a legal right

--
Xeno

On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>
> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>
> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.

Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?

>> Fraud in Victoria and Crimes of Deception
>> Fraud in Victoria includes a number of offences involving deception,
>> including the offences of obtaining property by deception, obtaining
>> financial advantage by deception, falsification of documents and false
>> accounting. This article outlines offences related to fraud in Victoria.
>>
>> Obtaining property by deception
>> The offence of obtaining property by deception is contained in section
>> 81 of the Crimes Act 1958 which states that it is a crime for a person
>> to act deceptively and with dishonesty obtain or acquire property that
>> belongs to someone else. The offence requires an intention to
>> permanently deprive the rightful owner of the property.
>>
>> The offence of obtaining property by deception carries a maximum
>> penalty of ten years imprisonment.
>>
>> The term property is given a wide meaning under section 71 of the
>> Crimes Act 1958. It includes all real and personal property, and
>> specifically includes money and intangible property. The property that
>> is obtained must belong to another. Property will be considered to
>> belong to somebody else when that person has possession or control of
>> it, or has a legal right or interest in the property. This is in
>> comparison to property which has clearly been abandoned.
>>
>> Obtaining financial advantage by deception
>> The offence of obtaining financial advantage by deception is governed
>> by section 82 of the Crimes Act. It occurs when a person dishonestly
>> obtains a financial advantage for themselves or for another person.
>>
>> This offence attracts a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment.
>>
>> The requirements of deception and dishonesty have been given the same
>> meaning as the other offences of fraud in Victoria. The term financial
>> advantage has been given a broad interpretation. It essentially means
>> something that improves the financial situation of the person in
>> question.
>>
>> What is deception?
>> The term deception is given a particular legal meaning when discussing
>> fraud in Victoria. Deception is defined in section 81(4) of the Crimes
>> Act 1958. It includes words or conduct as to matters of fact or law
>> that are deceitful about the true nature of things.
>>
>> The law also expressly provides that it is deceitful to do something
>> with a machine or a computer with the intention to make it respond in
>> a way which you do not have the authority to do. For example, it would
>> be deceitful to use somebody else’s bank card and PIN to withdraw
>> money from an Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) without that person
>> having first authorised you to do so.
>>
>> In order to be considered deception, the accused’s conduct or words
>> must be either intentional or reckless. To behave in a reckless way is
>> essentially to say or do something knowing that there is a substantial
>> risk that it might be deceptive, but carrying on anyway.
>>
>> It is also necessary for the deception to actually play a part in
>> obtaining the property. That is, there must be a cause and effect
>> relationship between the deception and property actually being obtained.
>>
>> What is dishonesty?
>> For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
>> carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
>> purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief
>> that they had a legal right
>

On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>
>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>
> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?

I don't have customers Keith. I'm retired, and have been for the last
few years. This is a well known fact, but as usual these morons
completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote in
news:k2fahqFtuskU3@mid.individual.net:

snip trollery

2. COUNTABLE NOUN
A fraud is something or someone that deceives people in a way that is
illegal or dishonest.
"Unfortunately the portraits were frauds".
"He believes many 'psychics' are frauds who rely on perception and subtle
deception".

3. COUNTABLE NOUN
If you call someone or something a fraud, you are criticizing them
because you think that they are not genuine, or are less good than they
claim or appear to be.
[disapproval]
"I suspect her of being a fashion fraud, pretending to care about it more
than she really does".

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fraud

You're not doing at all well Richo.

alvey

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:

> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>
>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>
>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>
> I don't have customers Keith.

You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of SIA.

And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo the
Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.

> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well known
> fact,

Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your claims
are, apu, variable).

> but as usual these morons
> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)

Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.

alvey

On 14-Jan-23 8:22 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> Fraud in Victoria and Crimes of Deception
> Fraud in Victoria includes a number of offences involving deception,
> including the offences of obtaining property by deception, obtaining
> financial advantage by deception, falsification of documents and false
> accounting. This article outlines offences related to fraud in Victoria.
>
> Obtaining property by deception
> The offence of obtaining property by deception is contained in section
> 81 of the Crimes Act 1958 which states that it is a crime for a person
> to act deceptively and with dishonesty obtain or acquire property that
> belongs to someone else. The offence requires an intention to
> permanently deprive the rightful owner of the property.
>
> The offence of obtaining property by deception carries a maximum penalty
> of ten years imprisonment.
>
> The term property is given a wide meaning under section 71 of the Crimes
> Act 1958. It includes all real and personal property, and specifically
> includes money and intangible property. The property that is obtained
> must belong to another. Property will be considered to belong to
> somebody else when that person has possession or control of it, or has a
> legal right or interest in the property. This is in comparison to
> property which has clearly been abandoned.
>
> Obtaining financial advantage by deception
> The offence of obtaining financial advantage by deception is governed by
> section 82 of the Crimes Act. It occurs when a person dishonestly
> obtains a financial advantage for themselves or for another person.
>
> This offence attracts a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment.
>
> The requirements of deception and dishonesty have been given the same
> meaning as the other offences of fraud in Victoria. The term financial
> advantage has been given a broad interpretation. It essentially means
> something that improves the financial situation of the person in question.
>
> What is deception?
> The term deception is given a particular legal meaning when discussing
> fraud in Victoria. Deception is defined in section 81(4) of the Crimes
> Act 1958. It includes words or conduct as to matters of fact or law that
> are deceitful about the true nature of things.
>
> The law also expressly provides that it is deceitful to do something
> with a machine or a computer with the intention to make it respond in a
> way which you do not have the authority to do. For example, it would be
> deceitful to use somebody else’s bank card and PIN to withdraw money
> from an Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) without that person having first
> authorised you to do so.
>
> In order to be considered deception, the accused’s conduct or words must
> be either intentional or reckless. To behave in a reckless way is
> essentially to say or do something knowing that there is a substantial
> risk that it might be deceptive, but carrying on anyway.
>
> It is also necessary for the deception to actually play a part in
> obtaining the property. That is, there must be a cause and effect
> relationship between the deception and property actually being obtained.
>
> What is dishonesty?
> For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
> carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
> purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief that
> they had a legal right

OK, but is there a point to this? Did I miss something?

Sylvia.

On 15/01/2023 8:59 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 14-Jan-23 8:22 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

>> What is dishonesty?
>> For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
>> carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
>> purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief
>> that they had a legal right
>
>
> OK, but is there a point to this? Did I miss something?

No.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
> On 15/01/2023 8:59 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 14-Jan-23 8:22 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>
>>> What is dishonesty?
>>> For fraud-related offences in Victoria, the word ‘dishonesty’ also
>>> carries a particular meaning. A person behaves dishonestly if they
>>> purposefully obtain an item of property without the genuine belief
>>> that they had a legal right
>>
>>
>> OK, but is there a point to this? Did I miss something?
>
> No.
>

Yes! You fraudulently claiming qualifications you don’t have.

____
Xeno

alvey wrote:
> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>> I don't have customers Keith.
> You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of SIA.
>
> And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
> was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo the
> Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.

nah keefy doesn't want to know anything bad about noddy.

>
>> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well known
>> fact,
> Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your claims
> are, apu, variable).

first time I heard it was only the last few years.

>> but as usual these morons
>> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)
> Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.
>
>
> alvey
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>
>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>
>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>
> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?

LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
"qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.

--
Daryl

Daryl wrote:
> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>
>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>
>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>
> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>
>
>

but if someone works on cars and claims to be a qualified motor mechanic
then that is fraud

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 15/01/2023 7:55 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>> I don't have customers Keith.
>> You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of SIA.
>>
>> And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
>> was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo the
>> Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.
>
> nah keefy doesn't want to know anything bad about noddy.
>
>>
>>> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well known
>>> fact,
>> Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your claims
>> are, apu, variable).
>
> first time I heard it was only the last few years.
>

Oh shit no, much, much longer than that - a couple of decades but hey,
it's NoddyLiar and he lies through his teeth so who knows.

When did he get his payout?

>>> but as usual these morons
>>> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)
>> Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
>

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 1/15/2023 10:55 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> alvey wrote:
>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>> I don't have customers Keith.
>> You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of SIA.
>>
>> And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
>> was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo the
>> Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.
>
> nah keefy doesn't want to know anything bad about noddy.
>
>>
>>> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well known
>>> fact,
>> Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your claims
>> are, apu, variable).
>
> first time I heard it was only the last few years.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As sure as night follows day:

First Alvira, *then* (me to, me to) the old cat...
What a team!. Dumb and Dumber. <FBG>
>
>>> but as usual these morons
>>> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)
>> Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
>

--
Usenet is like a herd ofperforming elephants with diarrhea----Massive,
difficult to redirect,awe inspiring, entertaining and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it....... Gene
Spafford

On 14/01/2023 5:22 pm, Keithr0 wrote:

<snip whatever>

fraud
/frɔːd/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: fraud; plural noun: frauds

wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or
personal gain.
"he was convicted of fraud"
h
Similar:
fraudulence

a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by
unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"

Well troll, "unjustifiably claiming accomplishments or qualities" is
Noddy in a nutshell.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 15/01/2023 8:04 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>
>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>
>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>
> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>
>
>

Correct in backwards ass Victoria any incompetent "Npddy" can work on
cars... but you most certainly can't tell people you're a qualified
mechanic when you are not nor can you claim you were a VACC member when
there is no evidence of membership, for instance.

Doing exactly that amounts to??? c'mon Daryl stretch that brain stem...
what do you think?

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

Clocky wrote:
> On 15/01/2023 7:55 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> alvey wrote:
>>> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly
>>>>>> qualified.
>>>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>>> I don't have customers Keith.
>>> You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of
>>> SIA.
>>>
>>> And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
>>> was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo
>>> the
>>> Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.
>>
>> nah keefy doesn't want to know anything bad about noddy.
>>
>>>
>>>> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well
>>>> known
>>>> fact,
>>> Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your
>>> claims
>>> are, apu, variable).
>>
>> first time I heard it was only the last few years.
>>
>
> Oh shit no, much, much longer than that  - a couple of decades

yeah my meaning wasn't clear. I meant it's the first time that I've seen
him say it was only a few years. it was always decades ago.

> but hey, it's NoddyLiar and he lies through his teeth so who knows.

yes we can never believe anything he says. that's what happens when
trust is destroyed.

>
> When did he get his payout?
>
>>>> but as usual these morons
>>>> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)
>>> Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

On 15/1/23 11:04, Daryl wrote:
> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>
>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>
>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>
> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.

But claiming you are qualified when you are not is deception, pure and
simple.

--
Xeno

On 15/1/23 12:13, Clocky wrote:
> On 14/01/2023 5:22 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>
> <snip whatever>
>
>
> fraud
> /frɔːd/
> Learn to pronounce
> noun
> noun: fraud; plural noun: frauds
>
>     wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or
> personal gain.
>     "he was convicted of fraud"
>     h
>     Similar:
>     fraudulence
>
>
>     a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by
> unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
>     "mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"
>
>
> Well troll, "unjustifiably claiming accomplishments or qualities" is
> Noddy in a nutshell.
>
Fraud it is then! Carry on!

--
Xeno

On 15/1/23 12:25, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/01/2023 8:04 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>
>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>
>> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
>> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Correct in backwards ass Victoria any incompetent "Npddy" can work on
> cars... but you most certainly can't tell people you're a qualified
> mechanic when you are not nor can you claim you were a VACC member when
> there is no evidence of membership, for instance.
>
> Doing exactly that amounts to??? c'mon Daryl stretch that brain stem...
> what do you think?
>
I suspect Daryl stretched his brain stem beyond its elastic limit way
back when he was working on cars. No doubt that's what convinced him
cleaning was his limit!
>

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Xeno wrote:
> On 15/1/23 12:25, Clocky wrote:
>> On 15/01/2023 8:04 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>>
>>> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
>>> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Correct in backwards ass Victoria any incompetent "Npddy" can work on
>> cars... but you most certainly can't tell people you're a qualified
>> mechanic when you are not nor can you claim you were a VACC member
>> when there is no evidence of membership, for instance.
>>
>> Doing exactly that amounts to??? c'mon Daryl stretch that brain
>> stem... what do you think?
>>
> I suspect Daryl stretched his brain stem beyond its elastic limit way
> back when he was working on cars. No doubt that's what convinced him
> cleaning was his limit!
>>
>

he still works on cars according to what he posts here

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FUCK PUTIN!!

Daryl wrote:
> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>
>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>
>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>
> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>
>
>

well that's a sad state of affairs for us poor mug customers isn't it.
we could be putting our lives in the hands of some mug idiot. it guess
it's a good reason to have work done at dealerships, even tho we
probably would pay more for it

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FUCK PUTIN!!

On 15/1/23 06:10, alvey wrote:
> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tpucjo$209h5$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 14/01/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>
>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>
>> I don't have customers Keith.
>
> You never have Fraudster. Well, certainly not at the legendary NA of SIA.
>
> And tell me Fraudster, how come "Noddy's" registered place of business
> was recorded as being at your parents residence? I'm sure even Richo the
> Troll would like to hear your explanation of that piece of *evidence*.

I'm pretty sure the troll has his fingers in his ears.
>
>> I'm retired, and have been for the last few years. This is a well known
>> fact,

The term actually is *pensioned off* or, in Darren's case, *paid off*.
>
> Yep, you hung up your broom sometime between 2001 and 2003, (your claims
> are, apu, variable).
>
>> but as usual these morons
>> completely ignore it as it doesn't fit their argument :)
>
> Just another lie there Fraudster. A really blatant one.
>
Yep,a definite lie. He was *boasting* about his *customers* and the
*services* he was doing on their cars just last year. But then, that was
probably a figment of his delusions. He has a lot of delusions!
>
> alvey
>

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On 15/1/23 16:02, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/1/23 12:25, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 15/01/2023 8:04 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 14/1/2023 11:00 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 14/01/2023 7:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 14/1/23 20:22, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep covers Darren's fraudulent behaviour for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Running a *home* business whilst claiming to be relevantly qualified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know what he is or is not claiming to his customers?
>>>>
>>>> LOL, no need for anyone to claim anything, no need for any
>>>> "qualfications" to work on cars in Victoria.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Correct in backwards ass Victoria any incompetent "Npddy" can work on
>>> cars... but you most certainly can't tell people you're a qualified
>>> mechanic when you are not nor can you claim you were a VACC member
>>> when there is no evidence of membership, for instance.
>>>
>>> Doing exactly that amounts to??? c'mon Daryl stretch that brain
>>> stem... what do you think?
>>>
>> I suspect Daryl stretched his brain stem beyond its elastic limit way
>> back when he was working on cars. No doubt that's what convinced him
>> cleaning was his limit!
>>>
>>
>
> he still works on cars according to what he posts here
>
His own and with his son. And it would be more correct to say he is
working on cars *again* after a *long hiatus* - a career long hiatus and
while in *retirement*. IOW, not serious work.

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