On 27/01/2023 06:02 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 5:12:22 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>
>> Once again I thank you for proving my point.
>
> What "point" was that? It just appear blank at this end.

Well... er... quite.

On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
> <very large snip>
> >> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
> >> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
>
> > Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
> the topic.
>
> --
> Spike
So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.

Peter Granger <PeterGranger@protonmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> <very large snip>
>>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
>>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.

>>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
>> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
>> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
>> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
>> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
>> the topic.

> Why do I need a PhD to impress him when you’re only being told you need a
> degree? Am I being discriminated against?

> Mind you, I’m not sure why I need any qualification to point out how
> Mikeyboy is subjecting Mason to such soft standards compared to the rest
> of us. Perhaps he feels sorry for him.

I put it down to the ‘birds of a feather’ syndrome.

--
Spike

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> <very large snip>
>>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
>>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
>>
>>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
>> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
>> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
>> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
>> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
>> the topic.

>> --
>> Spike

> So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.

So you are still unable to cite a reference that supports the fourth power
rule.

--
Spike

On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:02:52 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 5:12:22 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > Once again I thank you for proving my point.
> What "point" was that? It just appear blank at this end.

It's still blank and I'm not disabling my killfile just for that.

On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 15:04:56 UTC, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 18:26:05 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 16:26:13 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >>>> John Parkin, professor of transport engineering at the University of the
> >>>> West of England, says the bike-docking hire schemes helped enable the
> >>>> long-term subscription businesses to take off. This is because more people
> >>>> got used both to cycling and to using a bike that they didn't own.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, Prof Parkin, who is also deputy director of the university's
> >>>> Centre for Transport and Society, says a major challenge for the companies
> >>>> involved is the sheer capital expenditure of buying all the bikes in the
> >>>> first place. "It's massive capital and it's burning capital," he says.
> >>>>
> >>>> "I'm not sure where the profitability lies, as maintenance and moving them
> >>>> across cities is a massive cost, so keeping a lid on costs is probably a
> >>>> challenge for such companies."
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64371657
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
>
> >>> Offset by the £30 billion annual motoring subsidy.
>
> >> Doubtless paid for by the £40bn raised from motor vehicles….
>
> > You seem to have misspelled £7.2 billion raised in VED, since that is the
> > only motor vehicle tax
> That’s not what I said. Have another read.
>
> [Hint: ‘tax raised from motor vehicles’ > VED]
> > of which £12 billion is spent on motorway maintenance.
> So where does the other £28bn raised from motor vehicles get spent?
> > Then there is the 4th power of axle loading rule for local council funded roads.
> When I researched your worn out shibboleth, it related to a rule of thumb
> that was in vogue back in the days before computers, that was based on what
> was suspected about the properties of the materials used for building
> roads.
>
> These days we know better.
>

Still waiting for you to tell what we know better these days.

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 15:04:56 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 18:26:05 UTC, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 16:26:13 UTC, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> John Parkin, professor of transport engineering at the University of the
>>>>>> West of England, says the bike-docking hire schemes helped enable the
>>>>>> long-term subscription businesses to take off. This is because more people
>>>>>> got used both to cycling and to using a bike that they didn't own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, Prof Parkin, who is also deputy director of the university's
>>>>>> Centre for Transport and Society, says a major challenge for the companies
>>>>>> involved is the sheer capital expenditure of buying all the bikes in the
>>>>>> first place. "It's massive capital and it's burning capital," he says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "I'm not sure where the profitability lies, as maintenance and moving them
>>>>>> across cities is a massive cost, so keeping a lid on costs is probably a
>>>>>> challenge for such companies."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64371657
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Spike
>>
>>>>> Offset by the £30 billion annual motoring subsidy.
>>
>>>> Doubtless paid for by the £40bn raised from motor vehicles….
>>
>>> You seem to have misspelled £7.2 billion raised in VED, since that is the
>>> only motor vehicle tax
>> That’s not what I said. Have another read.
>>
>> [Hint: ‘tax raised from motor vehicles’ > VED]
>>> of which £12 billion is spent on motorway maintenance.
>> So where does the other £28bn raised from motor vehicles get spent?
>>> Then there is the 4th power of axle loading rule for local council funded roads.
>> When I researched your worn out shibboleth, it related to a rule of thumb
>> that was in vogue back in the days before computers, that was based on what
>> was suspected about the properties of the materials used for building
>> roads.

>> These days we know better.

> Still waiting for you to tell what we know better these days.

Still waiting for your authoritative source of the supposed if not mythical
‘fourth power rule’.

I’m not holding my breath.

--
Spike

On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 11:52:53 UTC, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 15:04:56 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 18:26:05 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 16:26:13 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> John Parkin, professor of transport engineering at the University of the
> >>>>>> West of England, says the bike-docking hire schemes helped enable the
> >>>>>> long-term subscription businesses to take off. This is because more people
> >>>>>> got used both to cycling and to using a bike that they didn't own.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, Prof Parkin, who is also deputy director of the university's
> >>>>>> Centre for Transport and Society, says a major challenge for the companies
> >>>>>> involved is the sheer capital expenditure of buying all the bikes in the
> >>>>>> first place. "It's massive capital and it's burning capital," he says.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "I'm not sure where the profitability lies, as maintenance and moving them
> >>>>>> across cities is a massive cost, so keeping a lid on costs is probably a
> >>>>>> challenge for such companies."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64371657
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Spike
> >>
> >>>>> Offset by the £30 billion annual motoring subsidy.
> >>
> >>>> Doubtless paid for by the £40bn raised from motor vehicles….
> >>
> >>> You seem to have misspelled £7.2 billion raised in VED, since that is the
> >>> only motor vehicle tax
> >> That’s not what I said. Have another read.
> >>
> >> [Hint: ‘tax raised from motor vehicles’ > VED]
> >>> of which £12 billion is spent on motorway maintenance.
> >> So where does the other £28bn raised from motor vehicles get spent?
> >>> Then there is the 4th power of axle loading rule for local council funded roads.
> >> When I researched your worn out shibboleth, it related to a rule of thumb
> >> that was in vogue back in the days before computers, that was based on what
> >> was suspected about the properties of the materials used for building
> >> roads.
>
> >> These days we know better.
>
> > Still waiting for you to tell what we know better these days.
> Still waiting for your authoritative source of the supposed if not mythical
> ‘fourth power rule’.
>
> I’m not holding my breath.
>
>
> --
> Spike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_power_law

https://streets.mn/2016/07/07/chart-of-the-day-vehicle-weight-vs-road-damage-levels/

https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/IPWEA/c7e19de0-08d5-47b7-ac3f-c198b11cd969/UploadedImages/pdfs/Info%20sheets/IS-06_4th_Power_Law.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/24vqq7/til_pavement_damage_is_proportional_to_the_fourth/

https://johnscreekga.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=1&clip_id=253&meta_id=32349

https://pdf.sciencedirectassets.com/278653/1-s2.0-S1877705816X00148/1-s2.0-S1877705816305240/main.pdf?X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEOX%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCXVzLWVhc3QtMSJHMEUCID7nOf4%2Fnt%2Fw20HEkLjdlz8ec9Ksa3lhTUa5cRf%2BTnNPAiEAptdx1HteiG%2B%2FkzowA76AinIi1eXbdgF8gF9%2FtUHjtwsqswUIXhAFGgwwNTkwMDM1NDY4NjUiDICiQdp8jjPxM%2BLBvSqQBVJZkyNPlxyQLEPf%2BHTHm5Ks46OW6KlgarLF3d7eRJPelBEPXmfSnOtg9nC9eMPiBuMdhF0PsumsxI%2Bm34zBDHOQceZEGcqUcS1OpXEtDBmGUBRgfYPWajVQg3uoL%2BKgeAJcP0frt3t4a%2B%2BTVMG0YzsjmktjTVJFYEdRRK6IWBf1P%2FWqhVmVKx6IllwVoNEqqzYJIOWTGFFgrxCYcmkc3CmyYmyszpqIHazkUqTGBjWKL654fJb7d889zbEMMTEwGK3FiMsBAlEtTFTgr3u1U%2Bip4v6T%2BA4jy0W0NBQ3P0h%2B0IzMBesihiz4W5oKMcOytj32IsOmGc7p52w1Z50%2F3ni1zBSRaTC6X%2FzZ2rGfX9B5XRi8KSm5BXRZeqSBJDekdIbuwjZnbRNALqxWXGrQLItE9BV8LsyoQa0xD5%2Bt%2F6E9i3efopjWnF3X1%2FtwLZiHzi0lAAEUdqg0%2BZPjqEFInL7flL%2Fa4ORPmMZL6WKd0L7q6UFEbg0kqyZYoJh%2FopqPi9nzmITJrdMUDZbQ0PYEBUny1W6hfuRfmUbZinKIZVDcuQfbTZmNoXe%2ByWKhjVNB1ofMBoVcKQhLWHRcDNOi%2FixCXF5GvDxEm9D9sxcYgrk%2BeE6%2FA8Qhvb7CH1vNpCeHkapGWUxRQs14bMF7EhJwBO5PkD4lVoC3kPXOHzuuK4tfI3UgN4KtFuDcTt0ARaFqVyEUh7yKiPHbt7a8HSc%2BC%2B8PhwmrQJV5ZRfv7KQSrKfnJKus29I8JaXYhqgjb2ZKFQLSLXITSKpBWf4IHxVsN%2F7BgYpBeHYVXKS4KsQxxpWCWlJZukTZOSyhESd%2BQ5Nidp81uUFJoEamYaAeKbW6O936ZZ%2FuXm1C38ucDq2eoWdJMIi21J4GOrEB%2B%2FDrtx1ko6%2BBsyPAQCbU33KVlvF03TZk%2FCUQ3ot5JtQ1yCYUW2U3FrfWIrchOmjSUSwhHojMFhW5eoCyYcYquvyUTZY%2FSPVEsrmzPJXD7FECC7MIAsVr89xj25YSGnAhZAKUb04mvTTSPX%2BLi3BLJLpTAa8w9l5%2FleJ8jfaoUIsZDtjf88Yt5KvyXqoXzkDlOcfw9mHavKCgp1eOhm6RFRVcTCkFeBaFbnm6EkHc22%2Bj&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Date=20230128T140121Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAQ3PHCVTYZKIWR7TS%2F20230128%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Signature=9917c838f0a91625bdc3b312be925306b064df39f5bdc928a784ff8c746dc518&hash=89c3b8db433ab2db4b3736aed8787636b00f84b782a7e0a985c4325d9028fdce&host=68042c943591013ac2b2430a89b270f6af2c76d8dfd086a07176afe7c76c2c61&pii=S1877705816305240&tid=spdf-5f680fd6-618f-4a6f-973a-995ceaf43b5d&sid=9977da563d30a648b17a25a3841b9f193566gxrqb&type=client&tsoh=d3d3LnNjaWVuY2VkaXJlY3QuY29t&ua=1d04565f5400565d5552&rr=790a4276de8e76ab&cc=gb

Shall I go on or will you now provide evidence to support your claim that we know different theses day?

On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 11:23:30 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:02:52 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 5:12:22 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >
> > > Once again I thank you for proving my point.
> > What "point" was that? It just appear blank at this end.
> It's still blank and I'm not disabling my killfile just for that.

How do you suddenly know how to spell “canister” if your killfaux “blanks out” all posts and quotes from people who make you look (more) stupid?

PS - You haven’t mentioned “Brextards” today. Too drunk to remember? Scared of what’s soon going to be uploaded? Insecurity about your intelligence on the wane? (Obviously, that last one was a joke.)

Still, now that you’ve seen this post, you’ll be “coincidentally” shoehorning it in somewhere, I’m sure. Never did know when to quit while behind, did you?

On 28/01/2023 04:39 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> <very large snip>
>>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
>>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
>>
>>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
>> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
>> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
>> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
>> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
>> the topic.
>>
>> --
>> Spike
> So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.

Where is that "rule" published?

On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:16:11 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 04:39 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >> <very large snip>
> >>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
> >>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
> >>
> >>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
> >> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
> >> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
> >> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
> >> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
> >> the topic.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> > So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.
> Where is that "rule" published?

In the peer reviewed literature, the numerical answer is left as an exercise for the student.

On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 11:23:30 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 6:02:52 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 5:12:22 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >
> > > Once again I thank you for proving my point.
> > What "point" was that? It just appear blank at this end.
> It's still blank and I'm not disabling my killfile just for that.

How are you even seeing this thread? You usually pretend not to see threads started by those who take the pee out if you. Made a mistake by initially replying to this thread, didn’t you?

Clearly, your killfaux is malfunctioning. Only you could manage to introduce errors into a program that doesn’t even exist. Even in your happiest, most delusional fantasies, you’re still thick.

Admittedly, it would take way more imagination than you have to conceive of a reality where you weren’t.

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:35:31 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

> In the peer reviewed literature, the numerical answer is left as an exercise for the student.

Ah - I think you have found the nub of the problem right there!

On 28/01/2023 06:35 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:16:11 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 28/01/2023 04:39 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
>>>> <very large snip>
>>>>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
>>>>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
>>>>
>>>>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
>>>> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
>>>> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
>>>> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
>>>> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
>>>> the topic.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>> So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.
>> Where is that "rule" published?
>
> In the peer reviewed literature, the numerical answer is left as an exercise for the student.

So it doesn't exist.

Thank you for proving my point.

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:35:31 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

> In the peer reviewed literature, the numerical answer is left as an exercise for the student.

Beyond the likes of Medway, Cheerless and Judith.

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 14:04:28 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 06:35 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:16:11 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 28/01/2023 04:39 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 22:16:23 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:41:37 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >>>> <very large snip>
> >>>>>> I think the only thing you’ve proved here is that you are a boring,
> >>>>>> repetitive, ignorant knee-jerker.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Remind me again when and where you got your civil engineering degree.
> >>>> You’re the one that so boringly and so repetitively quotes what you refer
> >>>> to as ‘the fourth power rule’ for road damage caused by axle load, so
> >>>> perhaps you ought to defend your position on the subject by stating your
> >>>> relevant professional qualifications and the papers you have authored on
> >>>> the topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>> So you are still unable to cite a reference that over rules the fourth power rule.
> >> Where is that "rule" published?
> >
> > In the peer reviewed literature, the numerical answer is left as an exercise for the student.
> So it doesn't exist in Nugentworld.