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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:34 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.

And purely by coincidence the number he considered safe was always greater than the one on the lollipop.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:20 UTC

On 29/01/2023 06:34 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.

> As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.

So do you.

You used to publish reminders about them.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:21 UTC

On 28/01/2023 07:00 pm, swldx...@gmail.com...

....talking to himself again, said:

> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 5:23:50 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> No, they are just your typical 'law abiding' motorists. Speed limits only apply to other people because they are above average and drive according to the conditions.

>> I once read in the local rag a driver insisting that 40mph in a 30mph limit "isn't really speeding".

> Much like stealing a jar of coffee isn't really theft, I suppose.

Is that how you reassure yourself when out on a shoplifting spree?

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:22 UTC

On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>
>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>
>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
>
>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',

>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>> Please be specific.
>
> Norton Ferris

I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.

Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
the middle of them?

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:29 UTC

On 29/01/2023 01:22 pm, JNugent wrote:

> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>> PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Mike Collins wrote:
>
>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the
>>>>>> conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>
>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all
>>>>> your sweeping statements.
>
>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving
>>>> for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove
>>>> according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to
>>>> the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>
>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>>> Please be specific.
>
>> Norton Ferris
>
> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>
> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
> the middle of them?

Is this what you meant?

Norton Ferris turns out to be a location, rather than a village with
houses and a street passing through. It's more like buildings here and
there - certainly not in the form that anyone would call a "street" -
astride a B-road.

And even then, that B-road is NOT subject to the NSL as you claimed.

See the Streetview (that's a misleading phrase, by the way) of the place
(with its non-NSL speed limit) at:

<https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1276154,-2.3019527,3a,75y,169.57h,72.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKSKuF1NVbHgTLoyGu-sU-Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en>

Try again?

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:30 UTC

On 28/01/2023 08:06 pm, swldx...@gmail.com...

....talking to himself again, said:

> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 7:00:55 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com...

....talking to himself again, said:

>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 5:23:50 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>> No, they are just your typical 'law abiding' motorists. Speed limits only apply to other people because they are above average and drive according to the conditions.

>>> I once read in the local rag a driver insisting that 40mph in a 30mph limit "isn't really speeding".

>> Much like stealing a jar of coffee isn't really theft, I suppose.

You need to stop doing that. Or at least, if you can't stop, stop
boasting about it.
>
> And parking outside a school with your engine running isn't child abuse.

That's right. It isn't. Especially not in the depths of winter.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:31 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> >
> >>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
> >
> >>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>
> >> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
> >> Please be specific.
> >
> > Norton Ferris
> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>
> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
> the middle of them?

You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 13:39 UTC

On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>>>
>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
>>>
>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>>
>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>>>> Please be specific.
>>>
>>> Norton Ferris
>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>>
>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
>> the middle of them?
>
> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.

The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:05 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> > As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> > Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
> And purely by coincidence the number he considered safe was always greater than the one on the lollipop.

He was still baying at speed limit signs when he was in a wheelchair with a morphine drip in his arm.

Nasty little man.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/5110366.stm

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:12 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> >>>
> >>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
> >>>
> >>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
> >>
> >>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
> >>>> Please be specific.
> >>>
> >>> Norton Ferris
> >> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
> >>
> >> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
> >> the middle of them?
> >
> > You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.
> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.

Exactly as I stated.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:24 UTC

On 29/01/2023 02:12 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>>>>
>>>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>>>>>> Please be specific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norton Ferris
>>>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>>>>
>>>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
>>>> the middle of them?
>>>
>>> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.

>> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.
>
> Exactly as I stated.

That isn't what you stated.

In case you didn't know, the A36 Salisbury to Bath road never passed
through Upton Scudamore, before or after the building of the Warminster
bypass.

So thank you for proving my point.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:30 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:05:55 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > > > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> > > As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> > > Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
> > And purely by coincidence the number he considered safe was always greater than the one on the lollipop.
> He was still baying at speed limit signs when he was in a wheelchair with a morphine drip in his arm.
>
> Nasty little man.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/5110366.stm

Kept a sick tally of dead cyclists - now he's dead.
KARMA.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 14:54 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 14:25:02 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 29/01/2023 02:12 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
> >>>>>> Please be specific.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Norton Ferris
> >>>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview..
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
> >>>> the middle of them?
> >>>
> >>> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.
>
> >> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.
> >
> > Exactly as I stated.
> That isn't what you stated.
>
> In case you didn't know, the A36 Salisbury to Bath road never passed
> through Upton Scudamore, before or after the building of the Warminster
> bypass.
>
> So thank you for proving my point.
when you travelled from Warminster to Westbury there were road signs saying Upton Scudamore and the road was NSL.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 15:44 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:05:55 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:34:25 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions
>>>>> it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>>>> As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
>>>> Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
>>> And purely by coincidence the number he considered safe was always
>>> greater than the one on the lollipop.
>> He was still baying at speed limit signs when he was in a wheelchair
>> with a morphine drip in his arm.
>>
>> Nasty little man.

>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/5110366.stm

> Kept a sick tally of dead cyclists - now he's dead.
> KARMA.

In the long run, we’re all dead. How are you going to squander your
remaining time?

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:44 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:30:54 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:05:55 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/5110366.stm
> Kept a sick tally of dead cyclists - now he's dead.
> KARMA.

Playing with himself in hell now.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/234276410/Banjo_400x400.jpg

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:28 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.

Anyone remember Paul Smith (and his specialist copyright lawyer) who advocated using dead people to avoid speeding convictions.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:41 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 5:28:10 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> > As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> > Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
> Anyone remember Paul Smith (and his specialist copyright lawyer) who advocated using dead people to avoid speeding convictions.

Ah yes - the "Safespeed" founder who was often a guest of the late Talk Radio presenter Mike Dickin who died in a car crash in 2006 - it's how he wanted to die. A year after Dickin died, Smith himself was dead.

Here is the gut-wrenching tribute from Pistonheads.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=473918&i=0

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 17:43 UTC

On 29/01/2023 02:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 14:25:02 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 29/01/2023 02:12 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>>>>>>>> Please be specific.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norton Ferris
>>>>>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
>>>>>> the middle of them?
>>>>>
>>>>> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.
>>
>>>> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.
>>>
>>> Exactly as I stated.
>> That isn't what you stated.
>>
>> In case you didn't know, the A36 Salisbury to Bath road never passed
>> through Upton Scudamore, before or after the building of the Warminster
>> bypass.
>>
>> So thank you for proving my point.
>
> when you travelled from Warminster to Westbury there were road signs saying Upton Scudamore and the road was NSL.

....and?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 18:07 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 5:28:10 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 06:34:38 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 9:33:11 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > > Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> > As the late Keith Peat said - "I don't drive to a number on a lollipop".
> > Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
> Anyone remember Paul Smith (and his specialist copyright lawyer) who advocated using dead people to avoid speeding convictions.

His followers used to set fire to safety cameras.
COMMON THUGS.

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 by: Mike Collins - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 18:30 UTC

On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 17:43:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> On 29/01/2023 02:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 14:25:02 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 29/01/2023 02:12 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
> >>>>>>>> Please be specific.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Norton Ferris
> >>>>>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
> >>>>>> the middle of them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.
> >>
> >>>> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.
> >>>
> >>> Exactly as I stated.
> >> That isn't what you stated.
> >>
> >> In case you didn't know, the A36 Salisbury to Bath road never passed
> >> through Upton Scudamore, before or after the building of the Warminster
> >> bypass.
> >>
> >> So thank you for proving my point.
> >
> > when you travelled from Warminster to Westbury there were road signs saying Upton Scudamore and the road was NSL.
> ...and?

So someone else posts on your behalf.

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 by: JNugent - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 20:56 UTC

On 29/01/2023 06:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 17:43:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>> On 29/01/2023 02:54 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 14:25:02 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 29/01/2023 02:12 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:39:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 29/01/2023 01:31 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 29 January 2023 at 13:22:43 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 07:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 18:10:35 UTC, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 28/01/2023 04:46 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:58:53 UTC, PeterG...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 27 January 2023 at 21:33:11 UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why is it when motorists say they drive according to the conditions it always involves exceeding the speed limit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We already have an expert in sweeping here. There’s no need for all your sweeping statements.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been involved in this group, uk.transport and uk.rec.driving for many years and I have never seen a motorist say 'I drove according to the conditions because 30mph was more appropriate to the village I was passing through with a NSL road',
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which villages have 60mph streets passing through them?
>>>>>>>>>> Please be specific.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norton Ferris
>>>>>>>> I don't know of that place, but I'll look it up on Google Streetview.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there many / any other villages with a 60mph street running through
>>>>>>>> the middle of them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You once said 'Upton Scudamore' was your favourite village name. Before the Warminster bypass was build it was NSL.
>>>>
>>>>>> The A36 doesn't run through Upton Scudamore. It's a mile north of that road.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly as I stated.
>>>> That isn't what you stated.
>>>>
>>>> In case you didn't know, the A36 Salisbury to Bath road never passed
>>>> through Upton Scudamore, before or after the building of the Warminster
>>>> bypass.
>>>>
>>>> So thank you for proving my point.
>>>
>>> when you travelled from Warminster to Westbury there were road signs saying Upton Scudamore and the road was NSL.
>> ...and?
>
> So someone else posts on your behalf.

You are away with the fairies again, lad.

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 by: Simon Mason - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 21:05 UTC

> > > Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
> > Anyone remember Paul Smith (and his specialist copyright lawyer) who advocated using dead people to avoid speeding convictions.
> His followers used to set fire to safety cameras.
> COMMON THUGS.

Vandals and speeding drivers are both dead now.

WIN WIN.

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 by: Spike - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 22:24 UTC

Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hateful old man he was - kept a list of dead cyclists.
>>> Anyone remember Paul Smith (and his specialist copyright lawyer) who
>>> advocated using dead people to avoid speeding convictions.
>> His followers used to set fire to safety cameras.
>> COMMON THUGS.
>
> Vandals and speeding drivers are both dead now.
>
> WIN WIN.

In the long run, we’re all dead.

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 30 Jan 2023 06:38 UTC

> His followers used to set fire to safety cameras.
> COMMON THUGS.

When a dozy bouncer was flashed by a speed camera as he broke the limit, he took drastic action.

Adrian Smith, 46, set fire to the machine because he wrongly thought the driving offence would lead to a ban.

Police, who used number plate recognition cameras to trace the offender, went to his home to quiz him about the arson – and they found a cannabis farm in his basement.

He has now been jailed for two years for drug offences and starting the fire.

If he had just accepted his punishment for breaking the limit he would have faced a speed awareness course not a ban.

Judge Sean Morris told him: “These speed cameras save lives. People who set fire to them must realise the consequences are a hundred times worse than taking the fine.”

Smith was doing 68mph in a 60mph zone when he activated the camera on the A57 near Lincoln in February.

He thought he had six points on his licence and was convinced that being caught speeding would result in a ban under the totting up procedure.

He torched the camera the next day by setting tyres on fire. The machine was ruined.

Lincoln crown court heard that it was only when Smith was quizzed by police that he discovered he had just three points on his licence.

Smith, of Shireoaks, Notts, admitted arson, producing cannabis and possessing the drug with intent to supply.

Martin Keys, defending, told the court : “He has always been very remorseful.”


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