Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new investment is not coming into the UK.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/

On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:46:12 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new investment is not coming into the UK.
>
> https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/

Are battery cars the answer?
Batteries do not grow on trees.

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:46:12 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new investment is not coming into the UK..
> >
> > https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
> Are battery cars the answer?
> Batteries do not grow on trees.

No matter - there is only one end to this graph.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium

For someone whose posts strongly suggest you’d like no cars at all on the
road, what do you care if the UK stops producing them?

UK car production is dwarfed by that of Mexico, we can buy them from there.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in
> the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting
> climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry
> will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new
> facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do
> this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already
> at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of
> microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new
> investment is not coming into the UK.
>
> https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
>

--
Spike

On 02/02/2023 07:46 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new investment is not coming into the UK.
>
> https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/

IF (and only IF) the idea of banning the only fuels known to be in
plentiful supply manages to sustain itself.

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:14:58 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:46:12 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new investment is not coming into the UK.
> > >
> > > https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
> > Are battery cars the answer?
> > Batteries do not grow on trees.
> No matter - there is only one end to this graph.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium

Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the biggest market in the world.

On Friday, 3 February 2023 at 22:07:49 UTC, Spike wrote:
> For someone whose posts strongly suggest you’d like no cars at all on the
> road, what do you care if the UK stops producing them?
>
> UK car production is dwarfed by that of Mexico, we can buy them from there.
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in
> > the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting
> > climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry
> > will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new
> > facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do
> > this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already
> > at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of
> > microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new
> > investment is not coming into the UK.
> >
> > https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
> >
> --
> Spike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxcyeFGOp2k

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 3 February 2023 at 22:07:49 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> For someone whose posts strongly suggest you’d like no cars at all on the
>> road, what do you care if the UK stops producing them?
>>
>> UK car production is dwarfed by that of Mexico, we can buy them from there.
>> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in
>>> the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting
>>> climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car industry
>>> will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs, new
>>> facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not do
>>> this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is already
>>> at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage of
>>> microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new
>>> investment is not coming into the UK.
>>>
>>> https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
>>>
>> --
>> Spike
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxcyeFGOp2k

What is ‘Top Gear’ and why do you think it’s important in this context?

--
Spike

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:14:58 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:09:48 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 19:46:12 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Production of new diesel and petrol engine cars will become illegal in
>>>> the UK by 2030, as part of the government’s commitment to fighting
>>>> climate change. Over the next seven, short years, the whole car
>>>> industry will have to invest billions in new technology, new designs,
>>>> new facilities, new production lines and new suppliers. If it does not
>>>> do this, production in the UK will cease. British car production is
>>>> already at its lowest level since 1956, in part because of a shortage
>>>> of microchips, but also because several car plants have closed and new
>>>> investment is not coming into the UK.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexits-flat-battery/
>>> Are battery cars the answer?
>>> Batteries do not grow on trees.
>> No matter - there is only one end to this graph.
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
>
> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
> biggest market in the world.

A good rule to remember is that ‘correlation does not imply causation’. HTH

--
Spike

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the biggest market in the world.

Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.

swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium

>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
>> biggest market in the world.

> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.

It’s always sad when a country moves on from its smokestack period. The new
industries are far less visible than the dinosaur heavy industry they
replace. Unfortunately they need brain to replace the brawn, so a new type
of worker emerges. AI will earn more money than steel ever did, but is less
in the public eye. Besides, exporting steelmaking also exports the
pollution that goes with it, win-win. Change is uncomfortable but
inevitable. Get used to it.

--
Spike

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
> > Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the biggest market in the world.
> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.

Follow the collapse back to its source.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium

>>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
>>> biggest market in the world.

>> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.

> Follow the collapse back to its source.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium

Thank heavens the UK is moving on.

--
Spike

On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 11:49:29 UTC, Spike wrote:
> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
>
> >>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
> >>> biggest market in the world.
>
> >> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.
>
> > Follow the collapse back to its source.
>
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium
> Thank heavens the UK is moving on from 'the roads are for cars' mentality
>
> --
> Spike

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 11:49:29 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
>>
>>>>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
>>>>> biggest market in the world.
>>
>>>> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.
>>
>>> Follow the collapse back to its source.
>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/
FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium

>> It’s always sad when a country moves on from its smokestack period. The
>> new industries are far less visible than the dinosaur heavy industry
>> they replace. Unfortunately they need brain to replace the brawn, so a
>> new type of worker emerges. AI will earn more money than steel ever did,
>> but is less in the public eye. Besides, exporting steelmaking also
>> exports the pollution that goes with it, win-win. Change is
>> uncomfortable but inevitable. Get used to it.

><whinge><whine>

IFYPFY

--
Spike

Thanks go to this fat, unelected and unaccountable sponging liar.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIMwJZXoAAj9Yh?format=jpg&name=medium

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks go to this fat, unelected and unaccountable sponging liar.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIMwJZXoAAj9Yh?format=jpg&name=medium
Have you ever thought of moving on from your cartoon days?

--
Spike

On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 13:13:59 UTC, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 11:49:29 UTC, Spike wrote:
> >> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
> >>
> >>>>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
> >>>>> biggest market in the world.
> >>
> >>>> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.
> >>
> >>> Follow the collapse back to its source.
> >>
> >>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/
> FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium
> >> It’s always sad when a country moves on from its smokestack period. The
> >> new industries are far less visible than the dinosaur heavy industry
> >> they replace. Unfortunately they need brain to replace the brawn, so a
> >> new type of worker emerges. AI will earn more money than steel ever did,
> >> but is less in the public eye. Besides, exporting steelmaking also
> >> exports the pollution that goes with it, win-win. Change is
> >> uncomfortable but inevitable. Get used to it.
> ><whinge><whine>
>
> IFYPFY
>
> --
> Spike

No I did not. Apology accepted in advance if you are mature enough to admit you are wrong.

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 13:13:59 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 4 February 2023 at 11:49:29 UTC, Spike wrote:
>>>> swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:20:20 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:45:39 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>>
>>>>>>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
>>>>>>> biggest market in the world.
>>>>
>>>>>> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.
>>>>
>>>>> Follow the collapse back to its source.
>>>>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/
>> FoHqq5TWQAEdnHh?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>> It’s always sad when a country moves on from its smokestack period. The
>>>> new industries are far less visible than the dinosaur heavy industry
>>>> they replace. Unfortunately they need brain to replace the brawn, so a
>>>> new type of worker emerges. AI will earn more money than steel ever did,
>>>> but is less in the public eye. Besides, exporting steelmaking also
>>>> exports the pollution that goes with it, win-win. Change is
>>>> uncomfortable but inevitable. Get used to it.
>>> <whinge><whine>
>>
>> IFYPFY
>>
>> --
>> Spike
>
> No I did not. Apology accepted in advance if you are mature enough to admit you are wrong.

I gave up hoping you would admit you were wrong concerning your
much-trumpeted ‘fourth power rule’, especially after you posted five
references to it that you thought supported your position on the matter.

--
Spike

On 04/02/2023 10:50 am, Spike wrote:

> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

[pretending to talk to himself]

>> swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoElFtwXEAMn79l?format=jpg&name=medium
>
>>> Notice the decline starting after the Brextards voted to leave the
>>> biggest market in the world.
>
>> Those idiots have killed off UK car making - steel next.
>
> It’s always sad when a country moves on from its smokestack period. The new
> industries are far less visible than the dinosaur heavy industry they
> replace. Unfortunately they need brain to replace the brawn, so a new type
> of worker emerges.

But Mason types shouldn't despair. No matter what type of industry,
there's always a need for good janitorial skills.

> AI will earn more money than steel ever did, but is less
> in the public eye. Besides, exporting steelmaking also exports the
> pollution that goes with it, win-win. Change is uncomfortable but
> inevitable. Get used to it.

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 2:08:53 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks go to this fat, unelected and unaccountable sponging liar.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIMwJZXoAAj9Yh?format=jpg&name=medium

The undemocratic house of spongers need clearing out.

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:30:33 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 2:08:53 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks go to this fat, unelected and unaccountable sponging liar.
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIMwJZXoAAj9Yh?format=jpg&name=medium
> The undemocratic house of spongers need clearing out.

ALL UNELECTED SPONGERS.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoI9w1hXkAEWfL4?format=jpg&name=small

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 5:30:33 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 2:08:53 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Thanks go to this fat, unelected and unaccountable sponging liar.
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIMwJZXoAAj9Yh?format=jpg&name=medium

>> The undemocratic house of spongers need clearing out.

> ALL UNELECTED SPONGERS.

Yes, the EU is full of them.

Who voted for Ursula Vonder Liar?

Who voted for the EU Commission?

Why is the EU Parliament the only one in the world that can neither
initiate nor repeal legislation?

ALL SPONGERS. MOSTLY UNELECTED.

GLAD WE’RE RID OF THE LOT OF ‘EM.

> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoI9w1hXkAEWfL4?format=jpg&name=small
>

--
Spike

THIS IS DEMOCRACY.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoJVia1WIAM5QvJ?format=jpg&name=medium

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:25:05 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> THIS IS DEMOCRACY.
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoJVia1WIAM5QvJ?format=jpg&name=medium

ANOTHER JOKE.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoJV8i9WYAEKMjz?format=jpg&name=medium