On 12/05/2021 11:16 am, Norman Wells wrote:
> On 11/05/2021 23:53, JNugent wrote:
>> On 11/05/2021 09:20 pm, Vir Campestris wrote:
>>> On 10/05/2021 21:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2021 in message <s7c496$9i5$1@dont-email.me> Vir Campestris
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The line: "But in this sad old world in which we live in..." DOES
>>>>>> appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Source? (I can't find it)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/paul-mccartney-wings/live-and-let-die
>>>>
>>>> Line 8.
>>>>
>>> One of us has lost it here.
>>>
>>> Line 6,7,8:
>>>
>>> But if this ever changin' world
>>> In which we live in
>>> Makes you give in and cry
>>>
>>> I see no "sad".
>>
>> Whatever. It was nearly 50 years ago.
>>
>> But "in ... in ... in" was quoted in discussion in the press at the
>> time. Anyone who saw and took notice remembers it.
>>
>> OTOH, he had to make the line scan rhythmically.
>
> Which it does of course, and sensibly, if the lyrics are, as he wrote:
>
> But if this ever changin' world
> In which we're living
> Makes you give in and cry
>
> Why anyone thinks they're otherwise, particularly after listening to the
> Wings recording, is quite beyond me.

*Listen* to a Wings recording?

Why?

It's hardly The Beatles, is it?

On 12/05/2021 09:38, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 11/05/2021 19:49, Owain Lastname wrote:
>> On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 08:18:52 UTC+1, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>> Unfortunately he was less skilled at teaching English literature. When
>>> the exam questions at the time were along the lines of "What was in the
>>> author's mind when he wrote [quotation] he seemed a clueless as I was.
>>
>> That's not English, that's psychiatry.

> Even so, it made the difference between Pass and Fail for the English
> Literature O Level.
>
> I failed!

I would consider failing a duty if it depended on such a question.

--
Max Demian

On 12/05/2021 11:16, Norman Wells wrote:
> On 11/05/2021 23:53, JNugent wrote:
>> On 11/05/2021 09:20 pm, Vir Campestris wrote:
>>> On 10/05/2021 21:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2021 in message <s7c496$9i5$1@dont-email.me> Vir Campestris
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The line: "But in this sad old world in which we live in..." DOES
>>>>>> appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Source? (I can't find it)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/paul-mccartney-wings/live-and-let-die
>>>>
>>>> Line 8.
>>>>
>>> One of us has lost it here.
>>>
>>> Line 6,7,8:
>>>
>>> But if this ever changin' world
>>> In which we live in
>>> Makes you give in and cry
>>>
>>> I see no "sad".
>>
>> Whatever. It was nearly 50 years ago.
>>
>> But "in ... in ... in" was quoted in discussion in the press at the
>> time. Anyone who saw and took notice remembers it.
>>
>> OTOH, he had to make the line scan rhythmically.
>
> Which it does of course, and sensibly, if the lyrics are, as he wrote:
>
> But if this ever changin' world
> In which we're living
> Makes you give in and cry
>
> Why anyone thinks they're otherwise, particularly after listening to the
> Wings recording, is quite beyond me.

https://youtu.be/e7aGAIWe3uE?t=18

"But in this ever changin' world in which we live in..."

With a stretch "live in" could be heard as "livin'", but there's no way
there's a "we're" in there, just "we".

--
Max Demian

On 12/05/2021 11:51, Max Demian wrote:
> On 12/05/2021 11:16, Norman Wells wrote:
>> On 11/05/2021 23:53, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 11/05/2021 09:20 pm, Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>> On 10/05/2021 21:38, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>> On 10/05/2021 in message <s7c496$9i5$1@dont-email.me> Vir
>>>>> Campestris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The line: "But in this sad old world in which we live in..." DOES
>>>>>>> appear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source? (I can't find it)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/paul-mccartney-wings/live-and-let-die
>>>>>
>>>>> Line 8.
>>>>>
>>>> One of us has lost it here.
>>>>
>>>> Line 6,7,8:
>>>>
>>>> But if this ever changin' world
>>>> In which we live in
>>>> Makes you give in and cry
>>>>
>>>> I see no "sad".
>>>
>>> Whatever. It was nearly 50 years ago.
>>>
>>> But "in ... in ... in" was quoted in discussion in the press at the
>>> time. Anyone who saw and took notice remembers it.
>>>
>>> OTOH, he had to make the line scan rhythmically.
>>
>> Which it does of course, and sensibly, if the lyrics are, as he wrote:
>>
>> But if this ever changin' world
>> In which we're living
>> Makes you give in and cry
>>
>> Why anyone thinks they're otherwise, particularly after listening to
>> the Wings recording, is quite beyond me.
>
> https://youtu.be/e7aGAIWe3uE?t=18
>
> "But in this ever changin' world in which we live in..."
>
> With a stretch "live in" could be heard as "livin'", but there's no way
> there's a "we're" in there, just "we".

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, especially if
he has cloth ears. He may even regard McCartney as a numpty amateur
songwriter on the same basis.

I suggest he is mistaken on both counts.

"Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message
news:ig26niFtfb8U1@mid.individual.net...

> A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest,

You are The Boxer, and I claim my five pounds ;-)

> especially if he has cloth ears. He may even regard McCartney as a
> numpty amateur songwriter on the same basis.
>
> I suggest he is mistaken on both counts.

In message <s7grfn$348$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid> writes
>"Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message
>news:ig26niFtfb8U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest,
>
>You are The Boxer, and I claim my five pounds ;-)

I recognised it too, but I suppose as you were first to post you get the
fiver.
--
John Hall "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always
pays off now." Anon

On 11/05/2021 12:05, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 11/05/2021 in message
> <2t-dncFFDpzO_gf9nZ2dnUU78d3NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Max Demian wrote:
>> On 11/05/2021 01:21, JNugent wrote:

>>> Not that I was attacking it. As I said, song lyrics have to scan.
>>
>> And rhyme, often:
>>
>> "Imagine there's no countries
>> "It isn't hard to do
>> "Nothing to kill or die for
>> "And no religion too"
>>
>> The ending "too" grates; "either" would be better - not sure why.
>>
>> (Lyricists' licence)
>
> Unfortunately "either" doesn't rhyme with "do".

That's rather the point. ;->

--
Max Demian