A councillor has argued that benches would be a better alternative to proposed new cycle lanes.

It was claimed that possible new bike paths were causing 'huge concern and distress' among locals and that if they were built they would put people off using public transport.

Sefton Council's Cllr Sir Ron Watson made the comments after he secured funding for four new benches around Southport, Merseyside.

The new seats have been installed along various points of Lulworth Road and Sir Ron says they will provide rest points for people using public transport, the Southport Visiter and Ormskirk Advertiser, reports. (link is external)

Sir Ron is one of a number of vocal critics of proposals which could see cycle lanes added to a route running between Crossens, Southport and Ainsdale..

He said: “The aim of the benches is to make it easier for people who are considering using public transport instead of travelling by car because it will allow them to take a break on the way to the bus stop (!!!!!) or in its very close vicinity and as such will make like easier for them.

“This is the sort of initiative and forward thinking that has a much more practical effect than the current proposals in respect of cycle lanes which are continuing to cause a huge amount of local concern and distress amongst the public.

“The aim of greater use of public transport is a good one and we have a comprehensive rail and bus network that is the envy of many other parts of the country so we start off with an advantage but we should not in turn put people off by things such as the current cycle lane scheme and I can only express the hope that when the consultation process in respect of cycle lanes is analysed the public will be given a clear view to which the council must adhere.”

Here's the fat Tory involved.

https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/ronwatson-768x525.jpg

https://road.cc/content/news/benches-better-community-cycle-lanes-285789

On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:11:22 +0100, swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> A councillor has argued that benches would be a better alternative to proposed new cycle lanes.
>
> It was claimed that possible new bike paths were causing 'huge concern and distress' among locals and that if they were built they would put people off using public transport.
>
> Sefton Council's Cllr Sir Ron Watson made the comments after he secured funding for four new benches around Southport, Merseyside.
>
> The new seats have been installed along various points of Lulworth Road and Sir Ron says they will provide rest points for people using public transport, the Southport Visiter and Ormskirk Advertiser, reports. (link is external)
>
> Sir Ron is one of a number of vocal critics of proposals which could see cycle lanes added to a route running between Crossens, Southport and Ainsdale.
>
> He said: “The aim of the benches is to make it easier for people who are considering using public transport instead of travelling by car because it will allow them to take a break on the way to the bus stop (!!!!!) or in its very close vicinity and as such will make like easier for them.
>
> “This is the sort of initiative and forward thinking that has a much more practical effect than the current proposals in respect of cycle lanes which are continuing to cause a huge amount of local concern and distress amongst the public.
>
> “The aim of greater use of public transport is a good one and we have a comprehensive rail and bus network that is the envy of many other parts of the country so we start off with an advantage but we should not in turn put people off by things such as the current cycle lane scheme and I can only express the hope that when the consultation process in respect of cycle lanes is analysed the public will be given a clear view to which the council must adhere.”
>
> Here's the fat Tory involved.
>
> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/ronwatson-768x525.jpg
>
> https://road.cc/content/news/benches-better-community-cycle-lanes-285789

If a cyclist can't handle the big boy lanes, he ought to get a car.

On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 4:42:47 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> >
> > Here's the fat Tory involved.
> >
> > https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/ronwatson-768x525.jpg
> >
> > https://road.cc/content/news/benches-better-community-cycle-lanes-285789
> If a cyclist can't handle the big boy lanes, he ought to get a car.

If a pedestrian can't walk to the bus stop without a rest, they ought to get a mobility scooter.

Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
population.

Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.

On 22/08/2021 06:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 4:42:47 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Here's the fat Tory involved.
>>>
>>> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/ronwatson-768x525.jpg
>>>
>>> https://road.cc/content/news/benches-better-community-cycle-lanes-285789

>> If a fairy-cyclist can't handle the big boy lanes, he ought to get a car.
>
> If a pedestrian can't walk to the bus stop without a rest, they ought to get a mobility scooter.

There we have a footway-fairy-cyclist displaying the usual concern of
fairy-cyclists for pedestrians.

On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 01:49:45 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
> population.
>
> Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.

Agreed.

Normal cycle lanes are of some use and value to normal cyclists however.
You still need to provide a reference to these fairy-cyclists of which you speak.
Things have changed since you were incarcerated in Alder Hey 50 years ago.

On 23/08/2021 02:11 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 01:49:45 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:

>> Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
>> population.
>>
>> Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
>
> Agreed.

Good.
>
> Normal fairy-cycle lanes are of some use and value to normal fairy-cyclists however.

That does not militate against what I said.

> You still need to provide a reference to these fairy-cyclists of which you speak.

Why?

> Things have changed since you were incarcerated in Alder Hey 50 years ago.

?????

On 23/08/21 6:57 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 10:58:44 -0700 (PDT), swldx...@gmail.com, an absolutely
> brain dread troll-feeding senile asshole and typical demented Google groper
> blathered yet again:
>
>
>> If a pedestrian can't walk to the bus stop without a rest, they ought to get a mobility scooter.
>
> If a senile asshole like you can't stop sucking troll cock, it's high time
> he croaked!
>
Murderer.

faggot detector

On 23/08/21 12:49 pm, JNugent wrote:
> Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
> population.
>
> Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.

Nor, most of them, to bicyclists.

On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 02:25:24 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 23/08/2021 02:11 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 01:49:45 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>
> >> Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
> >> population.
> >>
> >> Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
> >
> > Agreed.
> Good.

So you agree these fairy-cyclists only exist in your fantasy world.

> >
> > Normal fairy-cycle lanes are of some use and value to normal fairy-cyclists however.
>
> That does not militate against what I said.
> > You still need to provide a reference to these fairy-cyclists of which you speak.
> Why?

So you agree these fairy-cyclists only exist in your fantasy world.

> > Things have changed since you were incarcerated in Alder Hey 50 years ago.
> ?????

I understand your world is a room in Alder Hey or a Playstation virtual world.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:50:56 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On 22/08/2021 06:58 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 4:42:47 PM UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's the fat Tory involved.
>>>>
>>>> https://cdn.road.cc/sites/default/files/styles/main_width/public/ronwatson-768x525.jpg
>>>>
>>>> https://road.cc/content/news/benches-better-community-cycle-lanes-285789
>
>>> If a fairy-cyclist can't handle the big boy lanes, he ought to get a car.
>>
>> If a pedestrian can't walk to the bus stop without a rest, they ought to get a mobility scooter.
>
> There we have a footway-fairy-cyclist displaying the usual concern of
> fairy-cyclists for pedestrians.

And he apparently has no concern for the elderly.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
> population.
>
> Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.

Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people should not be centrally funded.

On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 15:24:00 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent <jennings&c...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> > Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
> > population.
> >
> > Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people should not be centrally funded.

Such as Motorways?
Or Disabled Parking Bays

On 24/08/21 4:10 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Mike Collins, another brain
> damaged, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:
>
>
>>> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people should not be centrally funded.
>>
>> Such as Motorways?
>> Or Disabled Parking Bays
>
> Or useless trolls being funded steadily by idiotic troll-feeding senile
> assholes like you!

People can have civil conversations any time without disruptive filthy
intrusions by those to whom it oes not concern.
>
shitehawk wagon

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:21:12 +0100, Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 15:24:00 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent <jennings&c...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>> > Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
>> > population.
>> >
>> > Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
>> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people should not be centrally funded.
>
> Such as Motorways?

Those are used by many.

> Or Disabled Parking Bays

Yes, those are a waste of space.

On 24/08/2021 04:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 15:24:00 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent
>>> <jennings&c...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>>> > Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
>>> > population.
>
>>> > Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.

>>> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people
>>> should not be centrally funded.
>
>> Such as Motorways?
>
> Those are used by many.
>
>> Or Disabled Parking Bays
>
> Yes, those are a waste of space.

Having a family nonogenarian family friend for whom mobility is a
definite problem, I cannot agree. Being able to use their "blue badge"
in one of our cars when taking them to the shops or the council offices
to get that person right to the door - and not have to immediately leave
them to fend for themselves - is a great advantage - for them.

The only thing which gives me pause is the sheer amount of such
provision in certain places (especially within small LA parking areas),
most of it unused.

Disabled parking bays also make me wonder why all parking bays aren't as
generously wide (with the relative lack of danger of damage from
carelessly-flung doors).

On 24/08/2021 04:41 pm, JNugent wrote:
> On 24/08/2021 04:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 15:24:00 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent
>>>> <jennings&c...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>>>> > Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of
>>>> the
>>>> > population.
>>
>>>> > Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
>
>>>> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people
>>>> should not be centrally funded.
>>
>>> Such as Motorways?
>>
>> Those are used by many.
>>
>>> Or Disabled Parking Bays
>>
>> Yes, those are a waste of space.
>
> Having a family nonogenarian family friend for whom mobility is a
> definite problem, I cannot agree. Being able to use their "blue badge"
> in one of our cars when taking them to the shops or the council offices
> to get that person right to the door - and not have to immediately leave
> them to fend for themselves - is a great advantage - for them.
>
> The only thing which gives me pause is the sheer amount of such
> provision in certain places (especially within small LA parking areas),
> most of it unused.
>
> Disabled parking bays also make me wonder why all parking bays aren't as
> generously wide (with the relative lack of danger of damage from
> carelessly-flung doors).

[Please disregard the inadvertent repeat of "family" in the first
paragraph. An editing error.]

On 25/08/21 1:39 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 00:00:52 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>
>>>> Such as Motorways?
>>>> Or Disabled Parking Bays
>>>
>>> Or useless trolls being funded steadily by idiotic troll-feeding senile
>>> assholes like you!
>>
>> People can have civil conversations any time without disruptive filthy
>> intrusions by those to whom it oes not concern.
>
> Troll-feeding assholes like you and him will NOT be able to feed freely some
> PROVEN clinically insane troll without getting confronted with their idiocy
> for as long as they keep doing it. Capisci, gay little cyclist?
>

Where is the proof.

trout-faced cunt udder licker

On 25/08/21 6:59 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 16:41:04 +0100, JNugent, another demented, notorious,
> troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:
>
>
>>> Yes, those are a waste of space.
>>
>> Having a family nonogenarian family friend for whom mobility is a
>> definite problem, I cannot agree.
>
> LOL Senile idiot believes he can "argue" with the troll he keeps feeding!
>
You argue with him then.

bung force

On 26/08/21 02:02, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:05:11 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>>>> People can have civil conversations any time without disruptive filthy
>>>> intrusions by those to whom it oes not concern.
>>>
>>> Troll-feeding assholes like you and him will NOT be able to feed freely some
>>> PROVEN clinically insane troll without getting confronted with their idiocy
>>> for as long as they keep doing it. Capisci, gay little cyclist?
>>>
>>
>> Where is the proof.
>
> I posted it here before, and I won't bother to post it again for some
> nondescript gay retarded little cyclist!

So you didn't post it.
>
>> trout-faced cunt udder licker
>
> <BG> Poor idiot!
>
Thanks for the compliment.

spitting cock-tip experiment

On 26/08/21 02:04, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 23:06:08 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>
>>>> Having a family nonogenarian family friend for whom mobility is a
>>>> definite problem, I cannot agree.
>>>
>>> LOL Senile idiot believes he can "argue" with the troll he keeps feeding!
>>>
>> You argue with him then.
>
> YOU filthy gay cyclist are not going to decide with whom I argue or not!
> Capisci, filthy gay little cyclist?

Yes. And you cannot tell me what I may or may not post.
>
>> bung force
>
> As I said, you STINK of your FAGGOTRY!

shaft plonker
>

On 27/08/21 01:31, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:46:18 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>>>
>>> I posted it here before, and I won't bother to post it again for some
>>> nondescript gay retarded little cyclist!
>>
>> So you didn't post it.
>
> I posted it here and in other groups repeatedly, filthy fag.

I have not seen any true provable statement posted by you anywhere.
>
>>>> trout-faced cunt udder licker
>>>
>>> <BG> Poor idiot!
>>>
>> Thanks for the compliment.
>
> Sure, anytime, sick fag!

OK.
>
>> spitting cock-tip experiment
>
> You STINK of your FAGOTTRY, filthy fag!
>
OK.

complete cock-tip pipe piper

On 27/08/21 01:35, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:48:12 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>>>
>>> YOU filthy gay cyclist are not going to decide with whom I argue or not!
>>> Capisci, filthy gay little cyclist?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Good! You finally learned something, filthy fag!

You misunderstand.
>
>> And you cannot tell me what I may or may not post.
>
> NOBODY can stop a filthy fag like you from revealing, time and again, what a
> filthy fag you are! <BG>
> Thanks for the compliment coming from you.
>>>> bung force
>>>
>>> As I said, you STINK of your FAGGOTRY!
>>
>> shaft plonker
>
> You STINK of your FAGGOTRY, fithy fag!
>

OK.

bastardized ginger wiper

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 16:41:04 +0100, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On 24/08/2021 04:30 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 23 August 2021 at 15:24:00 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 01:49:44 +0100, JNugent
>>>> <jennings&c...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>>>> > Benches are at least of some use and value to the vast majority of the
>>>> > population.
>>
>>>> > Fairy-cycle lanes are of absolutely no use or value to most people.
>
>>>> Indeed. Things that are useful for only a small selection of people
>>>> should not be centrally funded.
>>
>>> Such as Motorways?
>>
>> Those are used by many.
>>
>>> Or Disabled Parking Bays
>>
>> Yes, those are a waste of space.
>
> Having a family nonogenarian family friend for whom mobility is a
> definite problem, I cannot agree. Being able to use their "blue badge"
> in one of our cars when taking them to the shops or the council offices
> to get that person right to the door - and not have to immediately leave
> them to fend for themselves - is a great advantage - for them.

For a tiny percentage of the population, while getting n the way of everyone else.

> The only thing which gives me pause is the sheer amount of such
> provision in certain places (especially within small LA parking areas),
> most of it unused.

Agreed. At one of my places of work, when they expanded the car park, they were legally required to have 15 disabled bays, a percentage of the workforce. Yet we only had ONE disabled member of staff. Since they're twice the width, that's 29 spaces lost. An email was sent round by the manager saying to ignore all but the one closest to the door, and ignore the lines and park at the usual distance.

> Disabled parking bays also make me wonder why all parking bays aren't as
> generously wide (with the relative lack of danger of damage from
> carelessly-flung doors).

Obviously because they'd need a lot more (expensive) land.

Just stop caring about a small scratch on your door, you sound like Simon.

On 28/08/21 00:37, Peeler wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 00:05:20 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>> On 27/08/21 01:31, Peeler wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 21:46:18 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
>>> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted it here before, and I won't bother to post it again for some
>>>>> nondescript gay retarded little cyclist!
>>>>
>>>> So you didn't post it.
>>>
>>> I posted it here and in other groups repeatedly, filthy fag.
>>
>> I have not seen any true provable statement posted by you anywhere.
>
> Who cares what you've seen or not seen, filthy fag? You simply don't count!
>
> <FLUSH rest of the faggot's usual shit unread>
>
If I don't count, why do you keep responding?

whoring bum bucket plonker