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* 8TB NAS HD recommendationsRJH
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8TB NAS HD recommendations

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 by: RJH - Sat, 18 Jun 2022 14:42 UTC

I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
Any recommendations?

I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:

https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb

Worth the saving?

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Cheers, Rob

Re: 8TB NAS HD recommendations

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From: Gor...@leaf.net.nz (Gordon)
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Subject: Re: 8TB NAS HD recommendations
Date: 19 Jun 2022 07:44:53 GMT
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 by: Gordon - Sun, 19 Jun 2022 07:44 UTC

On 2022-06-18, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
> Any recommendations?
>
> I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:
>
> https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb
>
> Worth the saving?

Questions.

1) Large Format Factor will they fit into you NAS?

2) Looks as if the are CMR, which you need/want.

3) OEM drives Y/N?

4)Refurbished warranty returns drives Y/N?

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 by: RJH - Sun, 19 Jun 2022 08:32 UTC

On 19 Jun 2022 at 08:44:53 BST, "Gordon" <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

> On 2022-06-18, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:
>>
>> https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb
>>
>> Worth the saving?
>
> Questions.
>
> 1) Large Format Factor will they fit into you NAS?
>
Yes, I think so - the existing are 3.5".

> 2) Looks as if the are CMR, which you need/want.

I think CMR is better? So yes, if it's more reliable. Speed isn't an issue.

>
> 3) OEM drives Y/N?
>

As 2 - I don't mind.

> 4)Refurbished warranty returns drives Y/N?

Yes, I would consider - much as ex-enterprise. The NAS is now only switched on
for a few hours at a time, a few times a week.

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Cheers, Rob

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
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 by: Theo - Sun, 19 Jun 2022 09:12 UTC

RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
> I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
> Any recommendations?
>
> I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:
>
> https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb
>
> Worth the saving?

I wouldn't feel too bad about using used discs in a RAID, since if one goes
the others still have the data. The main thing to consider with enterprise
drives is they can be more power hungry and noisier. Although possibly the
difference against consumer drives is not too significant - look up the
specs. They are perhaps a bit more robustly built than consumer drives so
I'd hope they last a bit longer.

Theo

Re: 8TB NAS HD recommendations

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From: fre...@fred-smith.co.uk (Abandoned_Trolley)
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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Sun, 19 Jun 2022 11:31 UTC

On 18/06/2022 15:42, RJH wrote:
> I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
> Any recommendations?
>
> I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:
>
> https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb
>
> Worth the saving?
>

Is there a reason for limiting the capacity of a single drive to 8TB ?

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Re: 8TB NAS HD recommendations

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From: patchmo...@gmx.com (RJH)
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Subject: Re: 8TB NAS HD recommendations
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 by: RJH - Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:46 UTC

On 19 Jun 2022 at 10:12:47 BST, Theo wrote:

> RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
>> I've outgrown the 4TB HDs in my Synology NAS so plan an upgrade to 2 x 8TB.
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> I was also looking at the ex-enterprise disks, for example:
>>
>> https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/components/enterprise-hdds-sdds-storage/large-form-factor-sata-drives/filter/in-stock/1/storage-size/6tb
>>
>> Worth the saving?
>
> I wouldn't feel too bad about using used discs in a RAID, since if one goes
> the others still have the data. The main thing to consider with enterprise
> drives is they can be more power hungry and noisier. Although possibly the
> difference against consumer drives is not too significant - look up the
> specs. They are perhaps a bit more robustly built than consumer drives so
> I'd hope they last a bit longer.
>

All done, got a couple of Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC320 8TB, £210
delivered the pair.

So far so good - impressed by the specs at least - 2 million hours MTBF(!) and
a 5 year guarantee (manufacture date Dec 2019, although it wouldn't surprise
me if the warranty doesn't apply). And everything's working very snappily.

The only slight thing is the noise - I can /just/ hear them in the room above
the cellar where they're kept. Maybe once the've finished indexing it might
quieten down a bit.

Couple of 3TB disks going spare (£80 delivered for both, one Seagate
Ironsomething, 1 Toshiba consumer) if anyone's interested.

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Cheers, Rob

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