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From: nothing....@here.com.au (Keithr0)
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Subject: Re: Looking for something different?
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 by: Keithr0 - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:43 UTC

On 11/03/2023 8:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> V12 - check
>> 27 litres - check
>> Totally mad - check
>>
>> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1972-john-dodds-the-beast-8bEqL4
>
> It's been done a number of times before, and quite frankly that one
> looks pretty average.
I'm sure that it has been done before, how many before this one though I
don't know given that it's over 50 years old and certainly pre-dates
your example.

> Rod Hadfield's Merlin powered '55 Chev is a much nicer implementation.

That's a matter of taste, the aesthetics of neither really turn me on,
but the pommy one is at least honest, it's a car not a pretend aircraft
with painted on rivets. You can't really compare the two since one is a
road going car and the other a dragster.

The power quoted for the dragster seems a bit suss. the most powerful
Merlin was the type 130/131 which gave 2000hp with 25psi of boost
running on 150ron petrol. If the dragster's motor came from a P51 then
it would be a type 66 which maxed out at 1720hp with 18 psi boost. So,
to get 3000hp, some magic pixie dust must have been spread on it.
>
>> https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/massive-attack-1955-chevrolet-sports-coupe
>
> Personally I don't know why anyone would *want* to, but Hadfield at
> least has made a nice living building strange and unusual cars in order
> to promote his business.

People do all sorts of things just because they want to. It could be
questioned why you want to stick a big V8 and Jaguar suspension into a
1950s Ford truck, I guess it's because you want to.

Try this frankentruck for "Why the hell did they do it"

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1948-ford-pickup-custom-4wd-with-chevrolet-65-litre-v8-turbodiesel-8l10mg

--
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Clocky on NASA 18 Mar 2022
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 by: Noddy - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 06:39 UTC

On 12/03/2023 4:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 8:24 pm, Noddy wrote:

> I'm sure that it has been done before, how many before this one though I
> don't know given that it's over 50 years old and certainly pre-dates
> your example.
>
>> Rod Hadfield's Merlin powered '55 Chev is a much nicer implementation.
>
> That's a matter of taste, the aesthetics of neither really turn me on,
> but the pommy one is at least honest, it's a car not a pretend aircraft
> with painted on rivets. You can't really compare the two since one is a
> road going car and the other a dragster.

He drives it on the street and it's road registered.

I don't care for either of them myself, but Hadfield's car certainly
looks like a more quality job than the thing you linked to which seems
to be pretty rough.

> The power quoted for the dragster seems a bit suss. the most powerful
> Merlin was the type 130/131 which gave 2000hp with 25psi of boost
> running on 150ron petrol. If the dragster's motor came from a P51 then
> it would be a type 66 which maxed out at 1720hp with 18 psi boost. So,
> to get 3000hp, some magic pixie dust must have been spread on it.

No idea, and nor do I care. If he wanted to get 3000hp out of something
there are easier ways to do it :)

I expect the quoted power figures are scenery for the spectators....

>>> https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/massive-attack-1955-chevrolet-sports-coupe
>>
>> Personally I don't know why anyone would *want* to, but Hadfield at
>> least has made a nice living building strange and unusual cars in
>> order to promote his business.
>
> People do all sorts of things just because they want to. It could be
> questioned why you want to stick a big V8 and Jaguar suspension into a
> 1950s Ford truck, I guess it's because you want to.

Of course, but just to be clear, I don't want to stick a "big V8" into
the thing. The engine it has in it now is a 272 cubic inch V8 which is
the engine it left the factory with. The engine it will be getting is a
302 cubic inch V8 that's only *slightly* larger than the original
factory engine. It's not a great quantum leap in terms of capacity, but
it *is* a significant step forward in terms of efficiency, durability,
cost effectiveness and parts availability. Similarly, the Jaguar
suspension, brakes and steering will be used for no reason other than to
improve the overall performance of the vehicle.

But you're absolutely right. It's all about personal taste.

> Try this frankentruck for "Why the hell did they do it"
>
> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1948-ford-pickup-custom-4wd-with-chevrolet-65-litre-v8-turbodiesel-8l10mg

Yeah, no thanks. Rat rods do absolutely nothing for me at all.

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Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Daryl - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 06:57 UTC

On 12/3/2023 4:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 8:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/03/2023 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> V12 - check
>>> 27 litres - check
>>> Totally mad - check
>>>
>>> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1972-john-dodds-the-beast-8bEqL4
>>
>> It's been done a number of times before, and quite frankly that one
>> looks pretty average.
> I'm sure that it has been done before, how many before this one though I
> don't know given that it's over 50 years old and certainly pre-dates
> your example.
>
>> Rod Hadfield's Merlin powered '55 Chev is a much nicer implementation.
>
> That's a matter of taste, the aesthetics of neither really turn me on,
> but the pommy one is at least honest, it's a car not a pretend aircraft
> with painted on rivets. You can't really compare the two since one is a
> road going car and the other a dragster.

AFAIK the Hadfield car was road registered (restricted?) and its
supposedly "certified" at 3000hp whatever certified means?
I wonder of the if the extra power comes from the step up reversing
gearbox its fitted with to give it some extra rpm and to get its output
to spin the correct way for the way its mounted.
If nothing else both examples are a hell of an engineering exercise.

>
> The power quoted for the dragster seems a bit suss. the most powerful
> Merlin was the type 130/131 which gave 2000hp with 25psi of boost
> running on 150ron petrol. If the dragster's motor came from a P51 then
> it would be a type 66 which maxed out at 1720hp with 18 psi boost. So,
> to get 3000hp, some magic pixie dust must have been spread on it.
>>
>>> https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/massive-attack-1955-chevrolet-sports-coupe
>>
>> Personally I don't know why anyone would *want* to, but Hadfield at
>> least has made a nice living building strange and unusual cars in
>> order to promote his business.
>
> People do all sorts of things just because they want to. It could be
> questioned why you want to stick a big V8 and Jaguar suspension into a
> 1950s Ford truck, I guess it's because you want to.
>
> Try this frankentruck for "Why the hell did they do it"
>
> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1948-ford-pickup-custom-4wd-with-chevrolet-65-litre-v8-turbodiesel-8l10mg

Bizarre, I've never got the rat rod thing, makes no sense to me.

--
Daryl

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 09:33 UTC

On 12/3/2023 5:57 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/3/2023 4:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 11/03/2023 8:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2023 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> V12 - check
>>>> 27 litres - check
>>>> Totally mad - check
>>>>
>>>> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1972-john-dodds-the-beast-8bEqL4
>>>
>>> It's been done a number of times before, and quite frankly that one
>>> looks pretty average.
>> I'm sure that it has been done before, how many before this one though
>> I don't know given that it's over 50 years old and certainly pre-dates
>> your example.
>>
>>> Rod Hadfield's Merlin powered '55 Chev is a much nicer implementation.
>>
>> That's a matter of taste, the aesthetics of neither really turn me on,
>> but the pommy one is at least honest, it's a car not a pretend
>> aircraft with painted on rivets. You can't really compare the two
>> since one is a road going car and the other a dragster.
>
> AFAIK the Hadfield car was road registered (restricted?) and its
> supposedly "certified" at 3000hp whatever certified means?
> I wonder of the if the extra power comes from the step up reversing
> gearbox its fitted with to give it some extra rpm and to get its output
> to spin the correct way for the way its mounted.

It's a *step up* gearbox and, as such, will *lose* torque. Guess what
that does to the *power at the wheels* ?

> If nothing else both examples are a hell of an engineering exercise.
>
>>
>> The power quoted for the dragster seems a bit suss. the most powerful
>> Merlin was the type 130/131 which gave 2000hp with 25psi of boost
>> running on 150ron petrol. If the dragster's motor came from a P51 then
>> it would be a type 66 which maxed out at 1720hp with 18 psi boost. So,
>> to get 3000hp, some magic pixie dust must have been spread on it.
>>>
>>>> https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/massive-attack-1955-chevrolet-sports-coupe
>>>
>>> Personally I don't know why anyone would *want* to, but Hadfield at
>>> least has made a nice living building strange and unusual cars in
>>> order to promote his business.
>>
>> People do all sorts of things just because they want to. It could be
>> questioned why you want to stick a big V8 and Jaguar suspension into a
>> 1950s Ford truck, I guess it's because you want to.
>>
>> Try this frankentruck for "Why the hell did they do it"
>>
>> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1948-ford-pickup-custom-4wd-with-chevrolet-65-litre-v8-turbodiesel-8l10mg
>
> Bizarre, I've never got the rat rod thing, makes no sense to me.

It would seem a lot of things make no sense to you, the concept of
gearing included.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 10:23 UTC

On 12/3/2023 4:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/03/2023 8:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/03/2023 8:43 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> V12 - check
>>> 27 litres - check
>>> Totally mad - check
>>>
>>> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1972-john-dodds-the-beast-8bEqL4
>>
>> It's been done a number of times before, and quite frankly that one
>> looks pretty average.
> I'm sure that it has been done before, how many before this one though I
> don't know given that it's over 50 years old and certainly pre-dates
> your example.
>
>> Rod Hadfield's Merlin powered '55 Chev is a much nicer implementation.
>
> That's a matter of taste, the aesthetics of neither really turn me on,
> but the pommy one is at least honest, it's a car not a pretend aircraft
> with painted on rivets. You can't really compare the two since one is a
> road going car and the other a dragster.
>
> The power quoted for the dragster seems a bit suss. the most powerful

Only if you assume it is running as a *stock* aero engine. Just
enhancing the intercooling gives you the ability to run higher
compression ratios/boost pressures. As stock, the CR is 6:1, not unusual
for a boosted engine of the era. In fact, given what Hadfield is known
for, I'd suspect a lot of his enhancement efforts would be in this area.
Another point of note is this;

https://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/aeroshell/knowledge-centre/technical-talk/techart12-30071515.html

Avgas is measured on Lean Mixture (similar to MON) but also
has a Rich Mixture Octane rating. The Lean Mixture rating is
100 octane (15 octane higher than the comparable 85 MON for
unleaded Mogas) but Avgas also has a Rich Mixture rating of
130 which allows higher supercharger boost pressures to be
used without detonation occurring.

It's a well known fact that rich mixtures are used when looking for
power. That means standard Avgas at 100 octane is is actually 130 octane
if you're not overly concerned about economy - and I'm positive that the
last thing in Hadfield's mind was economy.

> Merlin was the type 130/131 which gave 2000hp with 25psi of boost
> running on 150ron petrol. If the dragster's motor came from a P51 then
> it would be a type 66 which maxed out at 1720hp with 18 psi boost. So,
> to get 3000hp, some magic pixie dust must have been spread on it.

You want magic pixie dust, see Darren, he's full of it.
>>
>>> https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/massive-attack-1955-chevrolet-sports-coupe
>>
>> Personally I don't know why anyone would *want* to, but Hadfield at
>> least has made a nice living building strange and unusual cars in
>> order to promote his business.
>
> People do all sorts of things just because they want to. It could be
> questioned why you want to stick a big V8 and Jaguar suspension into a
> 1950s Ford truck, I guess it's because you want to.

Darren is sticking the Jaguar suspension into the truck so he can drive
it. As it is, it is a load carrying vehicle and the steering is too
heavy and the ride too rough for the poor boy. When he's finished it
will be neither a car nor a truck - and useless at both roles. IOW, its
primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts "look
at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he entered it into
car shows *as his creation*.
>
> Try this frankentruck for "Why the hell did they do it"
>
> https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1948-ford-pickup-custom-4wd-with-chevrolet-65-litre-v8-turbodiesel-8l10mg
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: lindsay - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 21:34 UTC

On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:

> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts "look
> at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he entered it into
> car shows *as his creation*.

Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:07 UTC

On 13/03/2023 8:34 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he entered
>> it into car shows *as his creation*.
>
> Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
> repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....

What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever come
up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing* bullshit
stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this miserable no life
fixated cunt.

As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this truck was my
"creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never
claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
personality disorder has infected this group.

He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should
just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
dying.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:18 UTC

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he entered
>>> it into car shows *as his creation*.

>
> What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever come
> up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing* bullshit
> stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this miserable no life
> fixated cunt.
>
> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this truck was my
> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never
> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
> personality disorder has infected this group.

You claimed the truck as *your creation* when you entered it into a car
show *under your name*. Did you have a disclaimer notice under your named
detailing who did all the resto work? I’ll bet you didn’t, especially given
all the shit you hung on him once your sight unseen purchase was delivered.
It is that simple Darren. You’re basking in the glory of the toil of others
- as is your wont. No different to you claiming trade qualifications you
don’t possess. In short, you’re a parasite!
>
> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should
> just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
> dying.
>
The compulsive liar with the massive mental disorder round here is you
Darren. After all, it is you who keeps coming up with grandiose bullshit
claims of trade qualifications and business ownership that you won’t
(can’t) back up with any proof. So easy to shoot me down but you won’t do
that Darren, why? Rhetorical question, save yourself the bother, it’s
patently obvious to all and sundry that you have no proof to show. I
fronted up with my trade registration number, time you fronted with your
two (2) claimed numbers. Puir wee Darren, didn’t know that every tradesman
has a unique registration number attached to his name and associated trade.
That’s done to keep the bullshitters like you from fraudulently claiming
trade qualifications you don’t possess.

____
Xeno

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 by: lindsay - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:42 UTC

On 13/03/2023 10:18 am, Xeno wrote:
> Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>>>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he entered
>>>> it into car shows *as his creation*.

poor old decrepit shit-fer-brains. you've got to read it to delete it,
dickhead. let me put it back for context...

Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....

>
>>
>> What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever come
>> up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing* bullshit
>> stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this miserable no life
>> fixated cunt.
>>
>> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this truck was my
>> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never
>> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
>> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
>> personality disorder has infected this group.
>
> You claimed the truck as *your creation* when you entered it into a car
> show *under your name*.

How the fuck would YOU know? I'd imagine they would ask the *owners*
name, not who fucking "created" it.

Car shows would be full of cars "created" by Henry Ford, you fucking
cretin....

Did you have a disclaimer notice under your named
> detailing who did all the resto work?

How many cars on show have a "disclaimer notice under your named
detailing"? whatever the fuck thats supposed to be?

My mate put both of his 64 Galaxie's on show plenty of times. no board,
no disclaimer notice... you need to up the dose, Tomas...

I’ll bet you didn’t, especially given
> all the shit you hung on him once your sight unseen purchase was delivered.
> It is that simple Darren. You’re basking in the glory of the toil of others
> - as is your wont. No different to you claiming trade qualifications you
> don’t possess. In short, you’re a parasite!

In short, you're a mindless fuckwit clutching at straws again, just like
the "sandrinham" line....

>>
>> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should
>> just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
>> dying.
>>
> The compulsive liar with the massive mental disorder round here is you
> Darren.

No prizes for second, shit-fer-brains.

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 by: lindsay - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 23:51 UTC

On 13/03/2023 9:07 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 13/03/2023 8:34 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he
>>> entered it into car shows *as his creation*.
>>
>> Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
>> repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....
>
> What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever come
> up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing* bullshit
> stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this miserable no life
> fixated cunt.
>
> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this  truck was my
> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never
> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
> personality disorder has infected this group.
>
> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should
> just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
> dying.

Please.

you know, it must have been like coming off heroin, nearly 2 weeks of no
repetive shit that he spews daily... the shakes would have been shpcking....

this time around, all he has is what he loves to squeal INCESSANTLY:
P R O J E C T I O N. He's made this shit up, and now pushing as fact,
yet he cant prove a fucking thing, he has nothing better to do with
whats left of his life except to lie in an attempt to gain credability.

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 by: Xeno - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:48 UTC

On 13/3/2023 9:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he
>>> entered it into car shows *as his creation*.
>>

> What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever come
> up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing* bullshit
> stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this miserable no life
> fixated cunt.
>
> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this  truck was my
> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never

Well, actually, you did claim to have/be getting a TAC payout. In fact,
the only way you wouldn't get a *massive* TAC payout would be if you
were 100% at fault. And, since you never owned a business that you could
sell, and clearly worked in low wage positions as a TA or process
worker, a TAC payout was the *only way* you were ever going to come into
a bunch of money.

> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the

If you recall, I said at the time the smart money for your wife, as a
Vic. government employee, was *salary sacrifice* to super and/or to car
lease arrangements. That push from the government began in 2001 when
salary increases were pushing employees into the top income bracket. I
even set up a salary sacrifice arrangement with Vic Super, whose office
was near Blackburn railway station, and was looking into salary
sacrificing lease arrangements when I ended up retired instead.

> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
> personality disorder has infected this group.

You *must* be looking into a mirror when you write this shit. After all,
you clearly have a *cancerous personality disorder*.
>
> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should

That mirror again! LOL

> just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
> dying.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Noddy - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 02:47 UTC

On 13/03/2023 10:42 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 13/03/2023 10:18 am, Xeno wrote:

>>> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this  truck was my
>>> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout, never
>>> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
>>> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
>>> personality disorder has infected this group.
>>
>> You claimed the truck as *your creation* when you entered it into a car
>> show *under your name*.
>
> How the fuck would YOU know? I'd imagine they would ask the *owners*
> name, not who fucking "created" it.
>
> Car shows would be full of cars "created" by Henry Ford, you fucking
> cretin....

It's a fucking moron, isn't it? :)

I've been to many car shows and had many entrants over the years, and I
can't remember the last time an owner's name was ever requested or
posted anywhere. You don't give your details when entering car shows.
You simply drive up to the gate, pay your entrant's fee and get given a
card with a number on it that you display in the window once you park
the car. The public & judges vote for particular vehicles citing the
number as the reference, and unless you have an "information board"
where you cite the details of the vehicle, which I don't, then the votes
are cast with people having absolutely no idea who owns it or who built
the thing.

Every show I've been involved with in the last 20 years works this way,
including the biggest of them such as Hanging rock and Bright rod run.
The old Hot Rod show that used to be held at the Exhibition Buildings
used to be different, but that was only due to the fact that you had to
pre-book your entry due to the limited number of spots available. For
everything else there are no names mentioned anywhere, and it's
interesting to observe this cuntoxen's fucked up logic in play.

According to him anyone who buys a car and puts it on show is committing
fraud unless they publicly state the details of where the car originated
from.

It's laughable, but then it's just another example of the clueless
bubble the fucking idiot lives in....

It's all about the vehicle,

> Did you have a disclaimer notice under your named
>> detailing who did all the resto work?
>
>
> How many cars on show have a "disclaimer notice under your named
> detailing"?  whatever the fuck thats supposed to be?
>
> My mate put both of his 64 Galaxie's on show plenty of times. no board,
> no disclaimer notice... you need to up the dose, Tomas...

Like everything else he claims, he has absolutely *no fucking idea* what
he's talking about and is hell bent on proving that fact to the world at
large.

In all of my 60 years I've *never* come across someone *so* keen to make
a complete and utter *cunt* out of themselves as this moron is.
> I’ll bet you didn’t, especially given
>> all the shit you hung on him once your sight unseen purchase was
>> delivered.
>> It is that simple Darren. You’re basking in the glory of the toil of
>> others
>> - as is your wont. No different to you claiming trade qualifications you
>> don’t possess. In short, you’re a parasite!
>
>
> In short, you're a mindless fuckwit clutching at straws again, just like
> the "sandrinham" line....

Yep. Total nutjob.

>>>
>>> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he should
>>> just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner somewhere and
>>> dying.
>>>
>> The compulsive liar with the massive mental disorder round here is you
>> Darren.
>
> No prizes for second, shit-fer-brains.

Don't worry, he'll keep trying. He'll kick and scream about me until the
day he dies.

What a pathetic heap of shit :)

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 by: Noddy - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 02:51 UTC

On 13/03/2023 10:51 am, lindsay wrote:
> On 13/03/2023 9:07 am, Noddy wrote:

>> He is a compulsive *liar* with a massive mental disorder, and he
>> should just do the world a huge favour by finding a quiet corner
>> somewhere and dying.
>
> Please.
>
> you know, it must have been like coming off heroin, nearly 2 weeks of no
> repetive shit that he spews daily... the shakes would have been
> shpcking....

I imagine he was licking the dried wallpaper paste off the walls in his
ugly little bungalow.

> this time around, all he has is what he loves to squeal INCESSANTLY:
>  P R O J E C T I O N. He's made this shit up, and now pushing as fact,
> yet he cant prove a fucking thing, he has nothing better to do with
> whats left of his life except to lie in an attempt to gain credability.

It's funny, but Ozone was once considered to be the biggest shit talker
this group has ever known, but this mental midget makes him look like a
rank amateur. Clasener is far and away *the* most incessant shit talker
this group has *ever* known, and the comedic beauty of that is that the
only two people who actually believe a word he has to say are himself
and Felix, and given that Felix is generally regarded as a legitimate
moron it's kind of a form of Karma really :)

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Noddy.

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 by: Daryl - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 03:17 UTC

On 13/3/2023 1:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 13/03/2023 10:42 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 13/03/2023 10:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>
>
>>>> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this  truck was my
>>>> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout,
>>>> never
>>>> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
>>>> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
>>>> personality disorder has infected this group.
>>>
>>> You claimed the truck as *your creation* when you entered it into a car
>>> show *under your name*.
>>
>> How the fuck would YOU know? I'd imagine they would ask the *owners*
>> name, not who fucking "created" it.
>>
>> Car shows would be full of cars "created" by Henry Ford, you fucking
>> cretin....
>
> It's a fucking moron, isn't it? :)
>
> I've been to many car shows and had many entrants over the years, and I
> can't remember the last time an owner's name was ever requested or
> posted anywhere. You don't give your details when entering car shows.
> You simply drive up to the gate, pay your entrant's fee and get given a
> card with a number on it that you display in the window once you park
> the car. The public & judges vote for particular vehicles citing the
> number as the reference, and unless you have an "information board"
> where you cite the details of the vehicle, which I don't, then the votes
> are cast with people having absolutely no idea who owns it or who built
> the thing.
>
> Every show I've been involved with in the last 20 years works this way,
> including the biggest of them such as Hanging rock and Bright rod run.
> The old Hot Rod show that used to be held at the Exhibition Buildings
> used to be different, but that was only due to the fact that you had to
> pre-book your entry due to the limited number of spots available. For
> everything else there are no names mentioned anywhere, and it's
> interesting to observe this cuntoxen's fucked up logic in play.
>
> According to him anyone who buys a car and puts it on show is committing
> fraud unless they publicly state the details of where the car originated
> from.

ROTFL, should I have put a sign on my Porsche when I displayed it at the
local airfield car show that it was made by Porsche:-)

--
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 by: Noddy - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 03:27 UTC

On 13/03/2023 2:17 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 13/3/2023 1:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 13/03/2023 10:42 am, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 13/03/2023 10:18 am, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this  truck was my
>>>>> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout,
>>>>> never
>>>>> claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of the
>>>>> utter shit he reckons I've said or done in the time that his cancerous
>>>>> personality disorder has infected this group.
>>>>
>>>> You claimed the truck as *your creation* when you entered it into a car
>>>> show *under your name*.
>>>
>>> How the fuck would YOU know? I'd imagine they would ask the *owners*
>>> name, not who fucking "created" it.
>>>
>>> Car shows would be full of cars "created" by Henry Ford, you fucking
>>> cretin....
>>
>> It's a fucking moron, isn't it? :)
>>
>> I've been to many car shows and had many entrants over the years, and
>> I can't remember the last time an owner's name was ever requested or
>> posted anywhere. You don't give your details when entering car shows.
>> You simply drive up to the gate, pay your entrant's fee and get given
>> a card with a number on it that you display in the window once you
>> park the car. The public & judges vote for particular vehicles citing
>> the number as the reference, and unless you have an "information
>> board" where you cite the details of the vehicle, which I don't, then
>> the votes are cast with people having absolutely no idea who owns it
>> or who built the thing.
>>
>> Every show I've been involved with in the last 20 years works this
>> way, including the biggest of them such as Hanging rock and Bright rod
>> run. The old Hot Rod show that used to be held at the Exhibition
>> Buildings used to be different, but that was only due to the fact that
>> you had to pre-book your entry due to the limited number of spots
>> available. For everything else there are no names mentioned anywhere,
>> and it's interesting to observe this cuntoxen's fucked up logic in play.
>>
>> According to him anyone who buys a car and puts it on show is
>> committing fraud unless they publicly state the details of where the
>> car originated from.
>
> ROTFL, should I have put a sign on my Porsche when I displayed it at the
> local airfield car show that it was made by Porsche:-)

It's about as stupid as a person can be and still have a pulse.

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 by: Xeno - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 03:37 UTC

On 13/3/2023 2:17 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 13/3/2023 1:47 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> According to him anyone who buys a car and puts it on show is
>> committing fraud unless they publicly state the details of where the
>> car originated from.
>
> ROTFL, should I have put a sign on my Porsche when I displayed it at the
> local airfield car show that it was made by Porsche:-)
>

You poor silly fool. Porsche is *already claiming credit* for the design
and manufacture of the car - they put their *badge* on it. So, when you
entered your car into the local show, no one would have been in any
doubt whatsoever who made it. What's more, given the relatively young
age of it, no one would assume *anyone* has devoted countless hours
restoring it. In the case of Darren's truck, it's quite clear the design
and manufacture was by *FORD*. What is also quite clear is that it is a
*restoration* and that most definitely was not by Ford. It was not by
Darren Gibbens either but, rest assured, he'll take all the credit for
it - narcissism!

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 03:38 UTC

On 13/3/2023 2:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 13/03/2023 2:17 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>> ROTFL, should I have put a sign on my Porsche when I displayed it at
>> the local airfield car show that it was made by Porsche:-)
>
> It's about as stupid as a person can be and still have a pulse.
>
That comment by Daryl certainly was.

After all, Porsche *signed off* on their efforts by badging his car.

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 05:22 UTC

On 13/3/2023 1:51 pm, Noddy wrote:

> I imagine he was licking the dried wallpaper paste off the walls in his
> ugly little bungalow.

You really have it bad, don't you Darren. FTR, no wallpaper here. Can't
stand the stuff quite frankly. No wallpaper hence no wallpaper paste.
But please do keep on telling everyone what *you* do to pass time.
>
>
> It's funny, but Ozone was once considered to be the biggest shit talker
> this group has ever known, but this *I* make him look like a rank
> amateur.

I fixed your error Darren.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 05:42 UTC

On 13/3/2023 1:47 pm, Noddy wrote:

>
> It's a fucking moron, isn't it? :)
>
> I've been to many car shows and had many entrants over the years, and I
> can't remember the last time an owner's name was ever requested or
> posted anywhere. You don't give your details when entering car shows.
> You simply drive up to the gate, pay your entrant's fee and get given a
> card with a number on it that you display in the window once you park
> the car. The public & judges vote for particular vehicles citing the
> number as the reference, and unless you have an "information board"
> where you cite the details of the vehicle, which I don't, then the votes
> are cast with people having absolutely no idea who owns it or who built
> the thing.

So you *are* claiming the credit then. Well done you!
>
> Every show I've been involved with in the last 20 years works this way,
> including the biggest of them such as Hanging rock and Bright rod run.
> The old Hot Rod show that used to be held at the Exhibition Buildings
> used to be different, but that was only due to the fact that you had to
> pre-book your entry due to the limited number of spots available. For
> everything else there are no names mentioned anywhere, and it's
> interesting to observe this cuntoxen's fucked up logic in play.

You buy a resto, you enter it into a show, the assumption is that it is
*your* creation. Ergo, you are fraudulently claiming credit for the work
and effort involved.
>
> According to him anyone who buys a car and puts it on show is committing
> fraud unless they publicly state the details of where the car originated
> from.

Well, you have form. You are committing fraud by claiming you are a
qualified tradesman. You also committed fraud by claiming you were a
member of the VACC. Such a pity they've never heard of you or your business.
>
> It's laughable, but then it's just another example of the clueless
> bubble the fucking idiot lives in....

Clueless bubbles are your domicile Darren. FFS, you didn't even know
there was an entry level to an AME apprenticeship of year 10 passes. If
you had done such an apprenticeship, that's one little detail you would
surely know had you been there, done that. That little detail put you
totally out of the race and your failure to attain year 9 passes put you
out of the race for any other apprenticeship. That's before one even
considers that it wasn't even legal in Victoria to do 3 apprenticeships
back to back.
>
> It's all about the vehicle,
>

It is indeed - and the effort to get it where it is. Buying someone
else's effort is cheating no matter which way you look at it.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: alvey - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 07:28 UTC

lindsay <noneofyour@biz.com.au> wrote in
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> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he
>> entered it into car shows *as his creation*.
>
> Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
> repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....

Yep, that's never worked for the Fraudster. And there's proof that he's a
congentital liar!

As a matter of very little interest, how do you know what the Fraudster
told passerbys at the flea market that he took his stupid old Ford to?

alvey

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Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tulift$38n9l$1@dont-email.me:

> On 13/03/2023 8:34 am, lindsay wrote:
>> On 12/03/2023 9:23 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> primary role will be as a *poseur's truck*, something that shouts
>>> "look at me" and it has already slotted into that role when he
>>> entered it into car shows *as his creation*.
>>
>> Did he? You tried these lies once before, shit-fer-brains. Simply
>> repeating your pox-ridden *LIES* does'nt make them true, Tomas....
>
> What a sad, pathetic heap of shit it is. The *only* way he can ever
> come up with anything to have a go at me about is by *inventing*
> bullshit stories like this. Such is the pathetic plight of this
> miserable no life fixated cunt.
>
> As I've said before, I've *never* claimed that this truck was my
> "creation". Just like I've never claimed to have had a TAC payout,
> never claimed to have leased a motor vehicle, or never claimed most of
> the utter shit he reckons I've said or done... <snip froth>

"most" Fraudster? Oooo what a giveaway! So, care to share which of your
claims are lies?
snip serious PKB.

alvey

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lindsay <noneofyour@biz.com.au> wrote in
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> On 13/03/2023 10:18 am, Xeno wrote:

>> The compulsive liar with the massive mental disorder round here is
>> you Darren.
>
> No prizes for second, shit-fer-brains.

Absolutely! He's so far behind Fraudster in the Compulsive Liar Cup that he
doesn't deserve the silver medal. Or even the bronze. Jaysus! So compulsive
a liar is your little mate that he incontravertibly lies about his height!
That's Gold all by itself!

alvey

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Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tum2rl$3gqd8$1@dont-email.me:

snip bubble & squeak

Lucky that you don't care about what people think of you hey Fraudster...

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Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:tum33u$3gqd8$2@dont-email.me:

snip rubbish

> It's funny, but Ozone was once considered to be the biggest shit
> talker this group has ever known, but this mental midget makes him
> look like a rank amateur. Clasener is far and away *the* most
> incessant shit talker this group has *ever* known, and the comedic
> beauty of that is that the only two people who actually believe a word
> he has to say are himself and Felix, and given that Felix is generally
> regarded as a legitimate moron it's kind of a form of Karma really :)

lol!

What you completely fail to understand Fraudster is that your litany of
peurile fabrications make you not only the biggest "shit talker" this
group has ever had the misery of having, but also that the incredible
incompetence and inexplicable arrogance of your lies makes you the
stupidest person to regularly pollute here.

You are a *proven* liar, hypocrite, fraud, racist, misogynist and coward
Fraudster. They are facts; repulsive and stupid are opinions.

hth

alvey

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 by: lindsay - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:04 UTC

On 13/03/2023 4:42 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 13/3/2023 1:47 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>
>> It's a fucking moron, isn't it? :)
>>
>> I've been to many car shows and had many entrants over the years, and
>> I can't remember the last time an owner's name was ever requested or
>> posted anywhere. You don't give your details when entering car shows.
>> You simply drive up to the gate, pay your entrant's fee and get given
>> a card with a number on it that you display in the window once you
>> park the car. The public & judges vote for particular vehicles citing
>> the number as the reference, and unless you have an "information
>> board" where you cite the details of the vehicle, which I don't, then
>> the votes are cast with people having absolutely no idea who owns it
>> or who built the thing.
>
> So you *are* claiming the credit then. Well done you!

<blink> Unbelievable. Astonishing. Only you could come up with that...

>>
>> Every show I've been involved with in the last 20 years works this
>> way, including the biggest of them such as Hanging rock and Bright rod
>> run. The old Hot Rod show that used to be held at the Exhibition
>> Buildings used to be different, but that was only due to the fact that
>> you had to pre-book your entry due to the limited number of spots
>> available. For everything else there are no names mentioned anywhere,
>> and it's interesting to observe this cuntoxen's fucked up logic in play.
>
> You buy a resto, you enter it into a show, the assumption is that it is
> *your* creation.

thats "YOUR" assumption, shit-fer-brains. no-one elses. And your brain
is proven to be shot. what with your lies, plagairism, your NPD and
early Altz...

I would assume that the displayer ownes it. Not created it. And if it
mattered, i'd simply ask.

Ergo, you are fraudulently claiming credit for the work
> and effort involved.

You are nothing but a mindless liar, plagairist, spineless cretin, and
you keep proving it.

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