This PC currently has an Nvidia GeForce GT 710 which in modern graphics
terms couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Couldn't even play video from my camera.

However up until recently graphics cards were both scarce and expensive.

Just started comparing the 710 to 730 (which I have seen around £50) and
the review was flattering to neither.

Any idea of the lowest spec which would drive a 4K screen, cost under £100?

I've realised how long it is since I looked at all this and last time I
looked it took quite a bit of searching to work out what was (possibly)
what.

Cheers

Dave R

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David wrote:

> This PC currently has an Nvidia GeForce GT 710 which in modern graphics
> terms couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
> Couldn't even play video from my camera.

Most on-board graphics can H/W accelerate video playback, depending on what
codec the file is using, my oldish laptop skips frames when attempting 4K from
youtube, but is fine for 2K

> However up until recently graphics cards were both scarce and expensive.
>
> Just started comparing the 710 to 730 (which I have seen around £50) and
> the review was flattering to neither.
>
> Any idea of the lowest spec which would drive a 4K screen, cost under £100?

GT 1030 and 1050 seem to be in price range, and I'd expect could cope with the video

> I've realised how long it is since I looked at all this and last time I
> looked it took quite a bit of searching to work out what was (possibly)
> what.

Certainly the crypto crash has brought GPU prices down, and there seems to be a
bit of a lull where gamers are waiting for a better generation of products to be
released soon following some pretty crappy fayre released over the last few months.

I'm not a gamer, but you could look at some recent youtube videos from Hardware
Unboxed or Gamer's Nexus ..

David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
> This PC currently has an Nvidia GeForce GT 710 which in modern graphics
> terms couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
> Couldn't even play video from my camera.
>
> However up until recently graphics cards were both scarce and expensive.
>
> Just started comparing the 710 to 730 (which I have seen around £50) and
> the review was flattering to neither.
>
> Any idea of the lowest spec which would drive a 4K screen, cost under £100?

Probably a 10 series nVidia card. You'll need to check your power supply to
see if it's capable. A 1030 or a 1050, which may be a little over budget.

On 2 Jul 2022 at 19:27:16 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

> This PC currently has an Nvidia GeForce GT 710 which in modern graphics
> terms couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.
> Couldn't even play video from my camera.
>
> However up until recently graphics cards were both scarce and expensive.
>
> Just started comparing the 710 to 730 (which I have seen around £50) and
> the review was flattering to neither.
>
> Any idea of the lowest spec which would drive a 4K screen, cost under £100?

Friend of mine just got a 1070 for £125 off ebay, if that price point is
useful to know.

Cheers - Jaimie
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> Friend of mine just got a 1070 for £125 off ebay, if that price point is
> useful to know.

Be wary of used cards, as they might be ex-mining GPUs that have been
thrashed 24/7. There's a higher risk of failure with those, and you have no
warranty.

Depends if you want to take that risk, but I'd be tempted to use the drop in
price to snag a new one. Or maybe you know somebody who has a spare GPU you
can buy that you're sure hasn't been used for mining.

(or maybe there's some other way to tell if an ebay GPU has been used for
mining? There are some red flags, like the seller listing multiple GPUs,
but I'm not sure if eg the presence of a box makes it less likely to be a
miner cashing out?)

Theo

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>> Friend of mine just got a 1070 for £125 off ebay, if that price point is
>> useful to know.
>
> Be wary of used cards, as they might be ex-mining GPUs that have been
> thrashed 24/7. There's a higher risk of failure with those, and you have no
> warranty.

Mining cards tend to be the top of the range cards i.e. 980, 1080 Ti. A
low-mid range cards like a 1060/1070 is unlikely to have been used that
way.

Also, I've heard an argument that mining cards aren't that badly treated.
24/7 reliability is more important than outright speed so they are rarely
overclocked (underclocked if anything), usually well cooled and duff cards
will be filtered out pretty quickly.

If you can get a good price on one, I'd go for it. I tried myself recently,
but they were still too expensive for me. Got a 1660 Super for £200 in the
end.

Sold my 1060 for £80 which I was a bit disappointed about, but hey ho. The
going price at the time was a lot nearer to £100.

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sold my 1060 for £80 which I was a bit disappointed about, but hey ho. The
> going price at the time was a lot nearer to £100.

Last week I sold my RX580 for £98.49 ex VAT my Ryzen 5 2600 CPU without
cooler for £37.94 ex VAT and 2x 16GB 2133 MHz micron memory for £27.55 ex
VAT.

VAT was £32.79 and signed for delivery £12.05.

Had to pay VAT to customs as they were sent from Jersey, buyer has since
received and tested and is happy with them.