On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>
>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas explosion.
>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>> less
>>> common.
>>>
>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just the
>>> volume
>>> of gas?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>
> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>
> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>
>
>    "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion that
>     damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
> collarbone.
>    "
>
> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>
> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>
>    Paul

The concrete basement is intact :-).

One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
tiles.

On 22 Oct 2021 at 16:18:10 BST, Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com>
wrote:

> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>
>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas explosion.
>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>>> less common.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case? Just the
>>>> volume of gas?
>>>>
>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>
>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>
>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>
>> "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion that
>> damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>> collarbone.
>> "
>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>
>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>
> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>
> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
> tiles.

But, like thatch, you have to replace them from time to time. Had I stayed any
longer in the US, I'd have had to consider that for my house.

--
"I love the way that Microsoft follows standards. In much the same manner as fish follow migrating caribou."
- Paul Tomblin, ASR

On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>
>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>> explosion.
>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>>> less
>>>> common.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just the
>>>> volume
>>>> of gas?
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>
>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>
>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>
>>
>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion
>> that
>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>> collarbone.
>>     "
>>
>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>
>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>
>>     Paul
>
> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>
> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
> tiles.
shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses

On 22/10/2021 16:52, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 22 Oct 2021 at 16:18:10 BST, Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas explosion.
>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>>>> less common.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case? Just the
>>>>> volume of gas?
>>>>>
>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>
>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>
>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>
>>> "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion that
>>> damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>> collarbone.
>>> "
>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>
>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>
>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>
>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>> tiles.
>
> But, like thatch, you have to replace them from time to time. Had I stayed any
> longer in the US, I'd have had to consider that for my house.
>
used to love listening to all the roofs on fire on the fire department
scanner in Boston during thunder and lightening storms.....

On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas explosion.
>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is less
>>>>> common.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just the volume
>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>
>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>
>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>
>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion that
>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken collarbone.
>>>     "
>>>
>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>
>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>
>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>
>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>> tiles.
> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses

Shingles are quite serviceable.

It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.

You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
shovel).

And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.

Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
a day to a day.

This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Paul

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>> Andrew wrote
>>> Paul wrote
>>>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>>>> Tim+ wrote

>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190

>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> common.

>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case? Just the
>>>>>> volume
>>>>>> of gas?

>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...

>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?

>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg

>>>> "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion
>>>> that
>>>> damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>> collarbone.

>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.

>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.

>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).

>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that flying
>>> shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete tiles.

>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses

> Shingles are quite serviceable.

Metal decking leaves them for dead.

> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.

My metal decking is fine after 50 years.

> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the shovel).

Don’t need anything like that with metal decking, it just pops
off if I need access.

> And it's a job you can DIY.

Just as true of metal decking.

> Just rent an air compressor at the local tool shack, a couple air powered
> nail guns, and away you go.

Don’t need any of that with metal decking.

> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.

Don’t need any of that with metal decking.

> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
> a day to a day.

Much quicker than that with metal decking and one person is fine.

> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.

> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Metal decking would have left it for dead and would last much longer too.

On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition
>>>>>> is less
>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>
>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>
>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>> explosion that
>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>> collarbone.
>>>>     "
>>>>
>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>
>>>>     Paul
>>>
>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>
>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>> tiles.
>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>
> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>
> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>
> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
> shovel).
>
> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>
> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
> a day to a day.
>
> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>
> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>
>
>    Paul
that is SO patchy

On 23/10/2021 00:13, Rod Speed wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>> Andrew wrote
>>>> Paul wrote
>>>>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>>>>> Tim+ wrote
>
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>
>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition
>>>>>>> is less
>>>>>>> common.
>
>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>> of gas?
>
>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>
>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>
>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>
>
>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>> collarbone.
>
>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>
>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>
>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>
>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that flying
>>>> shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete tiles.
>
>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>
>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>
> Metal decking leaves them for dead.
>
>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>
> My metal decking is fine after 50 years.
>
>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the shovel).
>
> Don’t need anything like that with metal decking, it just pops
> off if I need access.
>
>> And it's a job you can DIY.
>
> Just as true of metal decking.
>
>> Just rent an air compressor at the local tool shack, a couple air
>> powered nail guns, and away you go.
>
> Don’t need any of that with metal decking.
>
>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>
> Don’t need any of that with metal decking.
>
>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>> a day to a day.
>
> Much quicker than that with metal decking and one person is fine.
>
>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>
>
> Metal decking would have left it for dead and would last much longer too.
what do you mean by metal decking in wagga ?

Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition is
>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case? Just the
>>>>>>> volume
>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>
>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion
>>>>> that
>>>>> damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>
>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>> tiles.
>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>
>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>
>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>
>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>> shovel).
>>
>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>
>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>> a day to a day.
>>
>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

> that is SO patchy

That’s because all those prayers have buckled the roof, stupid.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:sl0deu$b39$7@dont-email.me...
> On 23/10/2021 00:13, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote
>>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>>> Andrew wrote
>>>>> Paul wrote
>>>>>> Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote
>>>>>>> Tim+ wrote
>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>
>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition
>>>>>>>> is less
>>>>>>>> common.
>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case? Just
>>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>
>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>
>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>
>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>
>>>>>> "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the explosion
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>>> collarbone.
>>
>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>
>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>
>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>
>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that flying
>>>>> shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete tiles.
>>
>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>
>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>
>> Metal decking leaves them for dead.
>>
>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>
>> My metal decking is fine after 50 years.
>>
>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the shovel).
>>
>> Don’t need anything like that with metal decking, it just pops
>> off if I need access.
>>
>>> And it's a job you can DIY.
>>
>> Just as true of metal decking.
>>
>>> Just rent an air compressor at the local tool shack, a couple air
>>> powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>
>> Don’t need any of that with metal decking.
>>
>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>
>> Don’t need any of that with metal decking.
>>
>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>> a day to a day.
>>
>> Much quicker than that with metal decking and one person is fine.
>>
>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>
>> Metal decking would have left it for dead and would last much longer too.

> what do you mean by metal decking in wagga ?

Not in wagga.

https://www.cordeck.com/metal-decking/roof-deck/1-5-b-wide-rib-roof-deck/

On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition
>>>>>>> is less
>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>
>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>>     "
>>>>>
>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Paul
>>>>
>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>
>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>> tiles.
>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>
>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>
>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>
>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>> shovel).
>>
>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>
>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>> a day to a day.
>>
>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>
>>
>>     Paul
> that is SO patchy

Looks OK to me Jim.

Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019

Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !

On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total demolition
>>>>>>> is less
>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>
>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>>     "
>>>>>
>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Paul
>>>>
>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>
>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>> tiles.
>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>
>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>
>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>
>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>> shovel).
>>
>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>
>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>> a day to a day.
>>
>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>
>>
>>     Paul
> that is SO patchy

https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
construction in the UK.

On 23/10/2021 16:02, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>> tiles.
>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>
>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>
>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>
>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>> shovel).
>>>
>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>
>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>> a day to a day.
>>>
>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>
>>>
>>>     Paul
>> that is SO patchy
>
>
> Looks OK to me Jim.
>
> Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019
>
> Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !
>

Here you can see the house that was built by a carpenter and
featured on Grand Designs quite recently. It has a zinc roof
and the solar PV panels are stuck onto the panels.

Owner bought the plot without realising that there is a 9 inch
public sewer running under the railway immediately to the North
and under his plot. Caveat Emptor !

On 23/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:02, Andrew wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?
>>>>>>>>> Just the volume
>>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a
>>>>>>> broken collarbone.
>>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>>> tiles.
>>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>>
>>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>>
>>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>>
>>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>>> shovel).
>>>>
>>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>>
>>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>>> a day to a day.
>>>>
>>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Paul
>>> that is SO patchy
>>
>>
>> Looks OK to me Jim.
>>
>> Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019
>>
>> Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !
>>
>
> Here you can see the house that was built by a carpenter and
> featured on Grand Designs quite recently. It has a zinc roof
> and the solar PV panels are stuck onto the panels.
>
> Owner bought the plot without realising that there is a 9 inch
> public sewer running under the railway immediately to the North
> and under his plot. Caveat Emptor !

Link helps ..

https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9630603,-0.5046132,3a,75y,6.34h,75.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shr3D8PHgADXSk5hD9kjt9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

On 23/10/2021 16:22, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 16:02, Andrew wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?
>>>>>>>>>> Just the volume
>>>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a
>>>>>>>> broken collarbone.
>>>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>>>> tiles.
>>>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>>>
>>>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>>>
>>>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>>>> shovel).
>>>>>
>>>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>>>> a day to a day.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Paul
>>>> that is SO patchy
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks OK to me Jim.
>>>
>>> Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019
>>>
>>> Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !
>>>
>>
>> Here you can see the house that was built by a carpenter and
>> featured on Grand Designs quite recently. It has a zinc roof
>> and the solar PV panels are stuck onto the panels.
>>
>> Owner bought the plot without realising that there is a 9 inch
>> public sewer running under the railway immediately to the North
>> and under his plot. Caveat Emptor !
>
> Link helps ..
>
> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9630603,-0.5046132,3a,75y,6.34h,75.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shr3D8PHgADXSk5hD9kjt9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>
where ? ...

On 23/10/2021 16:10, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>> tiles.
>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>
>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>
>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>
>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>> shovel).
>>>
>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>
>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>> a day to a day.
>>>
>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>
>>>
>>>     Paul
>> that is SO patchy
>
> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>
>
> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
> construction in the UK.
looks too close to the boundary to meet UK Building standards burning
brands and all that .....

On 23/10/2021 16:10, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?  Just
>>>>>>>> the volume
>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a broken
>>>>>> collarbone.
>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>> tiles.
>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>
>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>
>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>
>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>> shovel).
>>>
>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>
>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>> a day to a day.
>>>
>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>
>>>
>>>     Paul
>> that is SO patchy
>
> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>
>
> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
> construction in the UK.
all I can see are Rosemary's ...

On 23/10/2021 16:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:22, Andrew wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2021 16:02, Andrew wrote:
>>>> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?
>>>>>>>>>>> Just the volume
>>>>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a
>>>>>>>>> broken collarbone.
>>>>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>>>>> tiles.
>>>>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>>>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>>>>> shovel).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>>>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>>>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>>>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>>>>> a day to a day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>>>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>>>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>> that is SO patchy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks OK to me Jim.
>>>>
>>>> Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019
>>>>
>>>> Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here you can see the house that was built by a carpenter and
>>> featured on Grand Designs quite recently. It has a zinc roof
>>> and the solar PV panels are stuck onto the panels.
>>>
>>> Owner bought the plot without realising that there is a 9 inch
>>> public sewer running under the railway immediately to the North
>>> and under his plot. Caveat Emptor !
>>
>> Link helps ..
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9630603,-0.5046132,3a,75y,6.34h,75.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shr3D8PHgADXSk5hD9kjt9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>
> where ? ...

Says so, top left hand corner of screen (on my pc)

Sussex

On 23/10/2021 16:27, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:10, Andrew wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a gas
>>>>>>>>> explosion.
>>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?
>>>>>>>>> Just the volume
>>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a
>>>>>>> broken collarbone.
>>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural damage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>>> tiles.
>>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>>
>>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>>
>>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>>
>>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>>> shovel).
>>>>
>>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>>
>>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>>> a day to a day.
>>>>
>>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Paul
>>> that is SO patchy
>>
>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>
>>
>> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
>> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
>> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
>> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
>> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
>> construction in the UK.
> all I can see are Rosemary's ...

Who is she ?.

Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:27, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
>>> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
>>> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
>>> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
>>> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
>>> construction in the UK.
>> all I can see are Rosemary's ...
>
> Who is she ?.
>

She wot gave her name to small red clay tiles. That’s certainly what seems
to be on all the visible roofs.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

On 23/10/2021 17:04, Tim+ wrote:
> Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 16:27, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>
>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
>>>> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
>>>> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
>>>> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
>>>> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
>>>> construction in the UK.
>>> all I can see are Rosemary's ...
>>
>> Who is she ?.
>>
>
> She wot gave her name to small red clay tiles. That’s certainly what seems
> to be on all the visible roofs.
>
> Tim
>
indeed

On 23/10/2021 16:50, Andrew wrote:
> On 23/10/2021 16:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 16:22, Andrew wrote:
>>> On 23/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>> On 23/10/2021 16:02, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> On 23/10/2021 08:24, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/10/2021 19:52, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/22/2021 1:26 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/10/2021 16:18, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 20/10/2021 18:56, Paul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 4:28 AM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2021 17:31, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58965190
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s not often you see a house so totally demolished by a
>>>>>>>>>>>> gas explosion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows out, roof off, gables blown off yes, but total
>>>>>>>>>>>> demolition is less
>>>>>>>>>>>> common.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder what factors made it so devastating in this case?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the volume
>>>>>>>>>>>> of gas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wonder what they were digging up out the back garden ? ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's not to like about natural gas ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://toronto.citynews.ca/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/10/2019/05/KYLOC603-519_2019_160912-768x480.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     "A woman in a neighbouring home was also injured by the
>>>>>>>>>> explosion that
>>>>>>>>>>      damaged 20 other homes. An 11-year-old girl suffered a
>>>>>>>>>> broken collarbone.
>>>>>>>>>>     "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That tells you there was a pretty good shock wave.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've seen several pictures similar to that. One of the others,
>>>>>>>>>> nine houses were damaged. Sometimes the house next door to
>>>>>>>>>> the splody one, has to be demolished because of structural
>>>>>>>>>> damage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The concrete basement is intact :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One advantage of North American 'shingle' roofing is that
>>>>>>>>> flying shingles do (slightly) less damage than flying concrete
>>>>>>>>> tiles.
>>>>>>>> shingles are crap....go well with american crap houses
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shingles are quite serviceable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It used to cost about $2000 a side, every fifteen years or so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can do shingles over shingles, or you can take a shovel and
>>>>>>> shovel them off (shear the roofing nail heads off with the
>>>>>>> shovel).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it's a job you can DIY. Just rent an air compressor at the
>>>>>>> local tool shack, a couple air powered nail guns, and away you go.
>>>>>>> The truck delivering the shingles, has a crane on the back, and the
>>>>>>> truck will even deliver your packs of shingles right up on the roof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depending on size of roof, a small crew can do a side in half
>>>>>>> a day to a day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an example of a church with a shingle roof. They nailed
>>>>>>> planks across the roof, for footrests, for that job. It takes
>>>>>>> a hell of a lot of packs of shingles to do a roof like that one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@44.6520343,-63.6150587,3a,75y,174.11h,100.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sX8yuOdyXIzAr2umKxGIiGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>> that is SO patchy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks OK to me Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>> Across the road Gas+ was 125.7 in 2018 and 116.1 in 2019
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably for a gallon, not a litre !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here you can see the house that was built by a carpenter and
>>>> featured on Grand Designs quite recently. It has a zinc roof
>>>> and the solar PV panels are stuck onto the panels.
>>>>
>>>> Owner bought the plot without realising that there is a 9 inch
>>>> public sewer running under the railway immediately to the North
>>>> and under his plot. Caveat Emptor !
>>>
>>> Link helps ..
>>>
>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9630603,-0.5046132,3a,75y,6.34h,75.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shr3D8PHgADXSk5hD9kjt9w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
>>>
>> where ? ...
>
> Says so, top left hand corner of screen (on my pc)
>
> Sussex
sorry didn't think THAT was a house....

On 23/10/2021 17:04, Tim+ wrote:
> Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 23/10/2021 16:27, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>
>>>> https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.9584453,-0.499107,3a,75y,287.93h,100.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sumcpP3mhgGKPosqJMRWdXg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This house has a roof covered with timber shingles. I knew someone
>>>> who lived there for over 20 years. He had the roof re-shingled in
>>>> 1988 and sold it about 4 years ago and the person who bought it had
>>>> a full survey that presumably didn't flag it up. I assume she bought
>>>> it without a mortgage though. Lenders don't like non-standard
>>>> construction in the UK.
>>> all I can see are Rosemary's ...
>>
>> Who is she ?.
>>
>
> She wot gave her name to small red clay tiles. That’s certainly what seems
> to be on all the visible roofs.
>
> Tim
>

The two bungalows on either side of the house have clay tiled roofs.
The house definately has a shingle roof. You can see the difference if
you zoom in. Strangely it does not have any 'ridge shingles'.