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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 05:46 UTC

A

laundry delivery driver faces having 81 penalty points put on his licence after being caught speeding 22 times on the same stretch of road in less than three weeks.

Peter McPherson, 58, racked up the offences during his shifts for Galicia Laundry, which provides linen, towels and clothing to hotels, spas and restaurants in London. He has admitted committing the offences on a 30mph stretch of the A40 Westway flyover between July 15 and August 1 last year.

On July 15 alone, he was caught by average speed cameras on four occasions. A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. McPherson’s lawyers say he already has seven points on his licence and concede that he now faces up to 81.

Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause “exceptional hardship”. He told the Evening Standard he was “gutted” about facing a ban.

“I’ve been driving on that stretch of road for many years,” he said. “I was so shocked when all these fines were sent to me at work. There was a whole pile of them.” He warned that the situation has jeopardised his job at the laundry where has worked since leaving school at 16.

“Our client has instructed us to enter a guilty plea,” specialist motoring solicitors from Patterson Law told Willesden magistrates last month. “In accordance with Schedule 2 Road Traffic Offenders Act for the offences of speeding our client will be at risk of 71 to 81 points.. At the time of the offence our client had seven points, so will be at risk of a six-month disqualification for totting 12 or more points during a three-year period.

“Our client intends to attend court and present an exceptional hardship argument.”

The case was first heard behind closed doors through the single justice procedure, but will now be dealt with in open court on May 17.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 09:31 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> A

> laundry delivery driver faces having 81 penalty points put on his licence
> after being caught speeding 22 times on the same stretch of road in less than three weeks.

Par for the course for your average urban cyclist, especially around
schools, 20 limits, shared paths, and pedestrian-only spaces. No wonder
cyclists resist the imposition of a licensing scheme.

> Peter McPherson, 58, racked up the offences during his shifts for Galicia
> Laundry, which provides linen, towels and clothing to hotels, spas and
> restaurants in London. He has admitted committing the offences on a 30mph
> stretch of the A40 Westway flyover between July 15 and August 1 last year.
>
> On July 15 alone, he was caught by average speed cameras on four
> occasions. A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. McPherson’s lawyers
> say he already has seven points on his licence and concede that he now faces up to 81.
>
> Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is
> hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause
> “exceptional hardship”. He told the Evening Standard he was “gutted” about facing a ban.
>
> “I’ve been driving on that stretch of road for many years,” he said. “I
> was so shocked when all these fines were sent to me at work. There was a
> whole pile of them.” He warned that the situation has jeopardised his job
> at the laundry where has worked since leaving school at 16.
>
> “Our client has instructed us to enter a guilty plea,” specialist
> motoring solicitors from Patterson Law told Willesden magistrates last
> month. “In accordance with Schedule 2 Road Traffic Offenders Act for the
> offences of speeding our client will be at risk of 71 to 81 points. At
> the time of the offence our client had seven points, so will be at risk
> of a six-month disqualification for totting 12 or more points during a three-year period.
>
> “Our client intends to attend court and present an exceptional hardship argument.”
>
> The case was first heard behind closed doors through the single justice
> procedure, but will now be dealt with in open court on May 17.
>
> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/driver-speeding-a40-westway-london-galicia-b1065631.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News%20email%208/3/2023&utm_term=ES_News_Daily_CDPis
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QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS

Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.

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 by: Rob Morley - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 12:27 UTC

On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
"swldx...@gmail.com" <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
>
> Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.

That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
"driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
they were three years ago.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 12:39 UTC

Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
> "swldx...@gmail.com" <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
>> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
>>
>> Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.
>
> That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
> of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
> "driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
> they were three years ago.

Perhaps he took his cue from cyclists ignoring 20mph limits?

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 12:59 UTC

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:27:59 PM UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
> "swldx...@gmail.com" <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
> > 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
> >
> > Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.
> That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
> of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
> "driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
> they were three years ago.

QUOTE:
Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause “exceptional hardship”. ENDS

"Hardship"?
Why do they always break the law many times and THEN use that excuse? Much easier to stick to the laws in the first place.

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 by: Spike - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:12 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 12:27:59 PM UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
>> "swldx...@gmail.com" <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
>>> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
>>>
>>> Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.
>> That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
>> of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
>> "driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
>> they were three years ago.
>
> QUOTE:
> Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is
> hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause
> “exceptional hardship”. ENDS

> "Hardship"?
> Why do they always break the law many times and THEN use that excuse?
> Much easier to stick to the laws in the first place.

I take it you can’t spell ‘hypocrisy’?

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QUOTE: “Our client has instructed us to enter a guilty plea,” ENDS

Sensible move - hard to argue against an overwhelming number of camera images.

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 by: Mike Collins - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:35 UTC

On Thursday, 9 March 2023 at 05:46:31 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A
>
> laundry delivery driver faces having 81 penalty points put on his licence after being caught speeding 22 times on the same stretch of road in less than three weeks.
>
> Peter McPherson, 58, racked up the offences during his shifts for Galicia Laundry, which provides linen, towels and clothing to hotels, spas and restaurants in London. He has admitted committing the offences on a 30mph stretch of the A40 Westway flyover between July 15 and August 1 last year.
>
> On July 15 alone, he was caught by average speed cameras on four occasions. A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. McPherson’s lawyers say he already has seven points on his licence and concede that he now faces up to 81.
>
> Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause “exceptional hardship”. He told the Evening Standard he was “gutted” about facing a ban.
>
> “I’ve been driving on that stretch of road for many years,” he said. “I was so shocked when all these fines were sent to me at work. There was a whole pile of them.” He warned that the situation has jeopardised his job at the laundry where has worked since leaving school at 16.
>
> “Our client has instructed us to enter a guilty plea,” specialist motoring solicitors from Patterson Law told Willesden magistrates last month. “In accordance with Schedule 2 Road Traffic Offenders Act for the offences of speeding our client will be at risk of 71 to 81 points. At the time of the offence our client had seven points, so will be at risk of a six-month disqualification for totting 12 or more points during a three-year period.
>
> “Our client intends to attend court and present an exceptional hardship argument.”
>
> The case was first heard behind closed doors through the single justice procedure, but will now be dealt with in open court on May 17.
>
> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/driver-speeding-a40-westway-london-galicia-b1065631.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News%20email%208/3/2023&utm_term=ES_News_Daily_CDPis

This is the problem with robot policing, especially when the robots can take weeks to inform a person of the offence. The driver should be given a chance to mend his ways.

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 by: Mike Collins - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:42 UTC

On Thursday, 9 March 2023 at 12:39:39 UTC, Spike wrote:
> Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
> > "swldx...@gmail.com" <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
> >> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
> >>
> >> Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.
> >
> > That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
> > of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
> > "driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
> > they were three years ago.
> Perhaps he took his cue from cyclists ignoring 20mph limits?
>
> --
> Spike

Speed limits do not generally apply to pedal cycles.
There are a few exceptions such as Royal Parks.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:23 UTC

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:42:13 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

> Speed limits do not generally apply to pedal cycles.

Or drink drive limits.

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:34 UTC

On 09/03/2023 05:46 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> A
>
> laundry delivery driver faces having 81 penalty points put on his licence after being caught speeding 22 times on the same stretch of road in less than three weeks.
>
> Peter McPherson, 58, racked up the offences during his shifts for Galicia Laundry, which provides linen, towels and clothing to hotels, spas and restaurants in London. He has admitted committing the offences on a 30mph stretch of the A40 Westway flyover between July 15 and August 1 last year.
>
> On July 15 alone, he was caught by average speed cameras on four occasions. A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. McPherson’s lawyers say he already has seven points on his licence and concede that he now faces up to 81.
>
> Drivers with 12 points usually face an automatic ban but McPherson is hoping to keep his licence by arguing that a disqualification would cause “exceptional hardship”. He told the Evening Standard he was “gutted” about facing a ban.
>
> “I’ve been driving on that stretch of road for many years,” he said. “I was so shocked when all these fines were sent to me at work. There was a whole pile of them.” He warned that the situation has jeopardised his job at the laundry where has worked since leaving school at 16.
>
> “Our client has instructed us to enter a guilty plea,” specialist motoring solicitors from Patterson Law told Willesden magistrates last month. “In accordance with Schedule 2 Road Traffic Offenders Act for the offences of speeding our client will be at risk of 71 to 81 points. At the time of the offence our client had seven points, so will be at risk of a six-month disqualification for totting 12 or more points during a three-year period.
>
> “Our client intends to attend court and present an exceptional hardship argument.”
>
> The case was first heard behind closed doors through the single justice procedure, but will now be dealt with in open court on May 17.
>
> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/driver-speeding-a40-westway-london-galicia-b1065631.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News%20email%208/3/2023&utm_term=ES_News_Daily_CDPis

A 30 mph limit on the A40(M) Westway flyover????

Is Khan a sadist as well as a thief?

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 by: JNugent - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:36 UTC

On 09/03/2023 04:42 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Thursday, 9 March 2023 at 12:39:39 UTC, Spike wrote:
>> Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 03:18:38 -0800 (PST)
>>> "swldx...@gmail.com" <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> QUOTE: A temporary 30mph restriction was imposed on the Westway in
>>>> 2020 during repairs but has now been made permanent. ENDS
>>>>
>>>> Makes no difference - it's still 30 mph.
>>>
>>> That just shows how much attention he pays to the road when driving -
>>> of course he's a highly experienced professional driver so he's safe
>>> "driving to the conditions", except when they're any different than
>>> they were three years ago.

>> Perhaps he took his cue from fairy-cyclists ignoring 20mph limits?
>
> Speed limits do not generally apply to fairy-cycles.
> There are a few exceptions such as Royal Parks.

No charge for the corrections to your spelling.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 18:02 UTC

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:23:26 PM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 4:42:13 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > Speed limits do not generally apply to pedal cycles.
> Or drink drive limits.

So if a cop breath tests you - it's an assault.


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