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* Sensible alternatives to skips?David
+* Re: Sensible alternatives to skips?Chris J Dixon
|`- Re: Sensible alternatives to skips?Steve Walker
+- Re: Sensible alternatives to skips?John Rumm
+* Re: Sensible alternatives to skips?Tricky Dicky
|`* Re: Sensible alternatives to skips?David
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 by: David - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:48 UTC

Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
skip.

Then along came skip bags.

Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
the grab to collect.

Any views, and/or personal experience?

I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
handle bulk well.

Cheers

Dave R

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:40 UTC

David wrote:

>Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
>skip.
>
>Then along came skip bags.
>
>Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
>the grab to collect.
>
>Any views, and/or personal experience?
>
>I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
>handle bulk well.

The contractors who block paved my drive used a grab wagon to
dispose of the excavated material. Using skips would have been an
issue because they would have had to go on the road.

I have no idea what the relative costs were. The only problem
might have been if the wagons had not turned up when required.

I'm also interested in skip bags, as I may need one for my
wildlife pond project, which is still on the drawing board.

Chris
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 by: John Rumm - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 14:09 UTC

On 28/10/2021 13:48, David wrote:

> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
> skip.

Still often the way to go if you need somewhere to dump stuff over a
period of days or weeks.

> Then along came skip bags.

Never tried those... I suppose if you have not got the car space to go
to the tip they might be handy.

> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
> the grab to collect.

Good for bulk building spoil - probably not so good for an ongoing
building job.

> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
> handle bulk well.

Yup.

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 by: Steve Walker - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:50 UTC

On 28/10/2021 14:40, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> David wrote:
>
>> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
>> skip.
>>
>> Then along came skip bags.
>>
>> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
>> the grab to collect.
>>
>> Any views, and/or personal experience?
>>
>> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
>> handle bulk well.
>
> The contractors who block paved my drive used a grab wagon to
> dispose of the excavated material. Using skips would have been an
> issue because they would have had to go on the road.

When we had our drive done, we had the same problem with a skip. The
stupid thing is that we are on a residential street, that is not short
of space and putting a skip in place of my wife's car for the day would
not have been a problem for anyone - but to do so would have required a
(paid for) permit from the council. It was cheaper for the contractor to
arrange to have the skip placed on our drive, dig half of it, have the
wagon come back and move the skip to the dug up bit and dig up the rest
and return again to take it away!

The daft thing is that is was delivered after 8am and was gone by 5pm.
I've no idea how long it was actually there for, but that's when I went
out and returned.

Similarly, for the past week, a neighbour has had a skip on her drive,
so her car has been outside on the road. It would have made no
difference to us all if it was the other way around, but would have
required council permission.

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 by: Tricky Dicky - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 16:55 UTC

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 1:48:05 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
> skip.
>
> Then along came skip bags.
>
> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
> the grab to collect.
>
> Any views, and/or personal experience?
>
> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
> handle bulk well.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
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>
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The problem with grab lorries is depends where the spoil is, if on a drive you could end up with gouge marks. When I had a new garage base done along with a number of support walls and quite a bit of paving. All the spoil was put on the front lawn and the lawn went with the spoil. As it happened we wanted it removing as we needed to extend the lawned area anyway. The drivers do quite a good job manoeuvring the grabs but some damage is inevitable.

Richard

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 by: David - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:40 UTC

On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:55:03 -0700, Tricky Dicky wrote:

> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 1:48:05 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts
> (Google) wrote:
>> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired
>> a skip.
>>
>> Then along came skip bags.
>>
>> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish
>> for the grab to collect.
>>
>> Any views, and/or personal experience?
>>
>> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem
>> to handle bulk well.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave R
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>
> The problem with grab lorries is depends where the spoil is, if on a
> drive you could end up with gouge marks. When I had a new garage base
> done along with a number of support walls and quite a bit of paving. All
> the spoil was put on the front lawn and the lawn went with the spoil. As
> it happened we wanted it removing as we needed to extend the lawned area
> anyway. The drivers do quite a good job manoeuvring the grabs but some
> damage is inevitable.
>
> Richard

Now wondering if putting down old shuttering as a base would solve that
problem.

This could be gouged by the grab but protect the underlying drive.

Anyway, thanks to all so far. :-)

Cheers

Dave R

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 by: Tricky Dicky - Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:01 UTC

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 7:40:45 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts (Google) wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 09:55:03 -0700, Tricky Dicky wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 1:48:05 PM UTC+1, David WE Roberts
> > (Google) wrote:
> >> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired
> >> a skip.
> >>
> >> Then along came skip bags.
> >>
> >> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish
> >> for the grab to collect.
> >>
> >> Any views, and/or personal experience?
> >>
> >> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem
> >> to handle bulk well.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave R
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >
> > The problem with grab lorries is depends where the spoil is, if on a
> > drive you could end up with gouge marks. When I had a new garage base
> > done along with a number of support walls and quite a bit of paving. All
> > the spoil was put on the front lawn and the lawn went with the spoil. As
> > it happened we wanted it removing as we needed to extend the lawned area
> > anyway. The drivers do quite a good job manoeuvring the grabs but some
> > damage is inevitable.
> >
> > Richard
> Now wondering if putting down old shuttering as a base would solve that
> problem.
>
> This could be gouged by the grab but protect the underlying drive.
>
> Anyway, thanks to all so far. :-)
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
>
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We had three grab wagon loads removed. These wagons shift about 20 tons at a time so if you are shifting anything less it might work out quite expensive. When you see 20 ton of spoil in your garden it is quite a big mound. My groundwork contractor did tell me what it cost for each wagon load, unfortunately I cannot remember what it was but I was pleasantly surprised although he did point out the cost for him was different to ordinary punters.

Richard

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:09 UTC

I think it all boils down to how well you have access to the work site.
Brian

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> Back in the day if you were doing building or demolition you just hired a
> skip.
>
> Then along came skip bags.
>
> Then along came lorries with a grab and you just piled up your rubbish for
> the grab to collect.
>
> Any views, and/or personal experience?
>
> I think skip bags are mainly for small amounts, but grab lorries seem to
> handle bulk well.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
> --
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