CANBERRA, Australia (AP) � Australia�s government plans legislation to ban
swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase in far-
right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.

While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the federal
law would go further by also banning the trade in such material, Dreyfus
said.

�There�s been a rise in this kind of violent far right activity. We think
it�s time for there to be a federal law which I�ll be bringing to the
Parliament next week,� Dreyfus told Nine Network television.

We�ve got responsibility for import and export. We want to see an end to
trading in this kind of memorabilia or any items which bear those Nazi
symbols,� Dreyfus said. �There�s no place in Australia for spreading of
hatred and violence.�

The Labor Party government controls the House of Representatives but not
the Senate, and it�s unclear when a ban might pass or take effect. The law
would include a penalty for people displaying Nazi symbols of up to a year
in prison.

Displaying symbols for religious, educational or artistic purposes would
be among a range of exclusions from the ban. It will not affect the use of
the swastika for people observing Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

Dreyfus, who is Jewish, said the number of neo-Nazis was small, but the
main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence
Organization, had raised concerns about their activity in the past three
years.

�This is a very small number of people. I�m hoping it�s getting small and
it will eventually disappear,� he told Australian Broadcasting Corp.

https://apnews.com/article/swastikas-australia-nazi-symbols-
16d821e089a09f6f395a7bdbbbaff692

Content
Introduction

A brief history of censorship in Australia

Internet censorship in Australia

Is censorship necessary?

Freedom of the press

Pornography, censorship and freedom of speech

Conclusion

Bibliography

Introduction
The debate about censorship takes place on various levels. Internet kids
curse against governments who try to restrict access to Internet sites.
Radical feminists want to ban every form of pornography as they believe it
degrades and dehumanizes women. Liberals on the other hand call for the
abolition of censorship because it violates the human right of freedom of
speech and expression. Newspaper journalists and editors fear retaliation
through defamation trials and by the almighty proprietors of the media
organizations they are working for if they do not report along the
mainstream.

In this essay I will examine all these facets of the censorship debate. I
will start with a history of censorship in Australia. Exemplary and due to
restriction of space, I will focus merely on book censorship. Then will
follow a discussion of two current issues in the debate: First, the
argument surrounding the Australian government's attempt to restrict
access to pornographic content in the internet by legislation. Second, the
issue of pornography, censorship and freedom of speech. This will take
place on a more general level and less related to current Australian
problems.

A brief history of censorship in Australia
The right of freedom of speech is not codified in the Australian
Constitution. However, it has been recognized by the judiciary through
several rulings of the High Court, especially in recent time.[1] Since the
time of European Settlement, print publications have been subject to
censorship through customs and defamation laws. This chapter will give a
brief overview of the changes and processes in the Australian censorship
legislation.

Newspapers were among the first publications to be censored by the
government. In the early years of settlement, the administration tried to
ban everything that could insult the mother country England, the Queen and
everything else that would in their perception disturb the social order or
that was labeled 'obscene', 'indecent', or 'immoral'. The first Australian
newspaper to be censored was the Satirist and Sporting Chronicle. In 1843,
its publishers were charged with printing

'a supposed dialogue between a number of lewd women, of a most obscene and
disgusting description. The offence was charged to be to the high
displeasure of Almighty God; to the scandal and reproach of the Christian
religion; in contempt of our Lady the Queen and her laws; and to the great
offence of all Civil Governments; to the evil and pernicious example of
all others; and against the peace of our said Lady the Queen, her crown
and dignity.'

(Sydney Morning Herald, 19 April 1843)[2]

In 1875, Victorian magistrates were entitled to issue search warrants for
police to seize obscene publications. In addition, they could order the
destruction of such material.[3]

Books were also frequently censored. While mostly imported, the
responsible control body was the Customs Department. Its officers would
seize books that they found objectionable and the importer would be
charged before a jury that ruled on the publication's confiscation due to
indecency.

After federation, this practice was institutionalized in the Federal
Customs Act of 1901. Some of the more controversial cases of censorship
concerned books of non-English origin.[4] This was due to a general
suspicion in Australian society towards cultures other than the English.
Gott and Linden note that this suspicion prevailed until the 1960s.[5]
After two years of rather arbitrary censorship, and widespread criticism
from the press and the publishing industry, the customs department adopted
a more liberal policy and withdrew almost completely from censoring books
for a period of nearly thirty years. Coleman, explaining this policy,
states that '...in England during most of that period there were no police
prosecutions of serious novelists.'[6]

A change in the Customs Department's censorship policy occurred with the
beginning of the economic crisis 1929. In a climate of increased
uncertainty and fear of depression a need to protect the values and the
lifestyle of Australian society from everything that might challenge or
question them emerged. The ban of James Joyce's Ulysses in 1929 is seen as
the starting point of this period of more rigid censorship.[7] Again, in
response to that, public disagreement and criticism aroused, which forced
the Customs Department to revise its approach to censorship once more. As
early as in 1933 the Department had established the Book Censorship
Advisory Council, a board that was created to give expert advice to the
Minister, if he sought it, and in 1937 it was finally replaced by the
Literature Censorship Board. The establishment of this body formalized the
censoring process, however it still had only advisory status and the
Minister of Customs was not obliged to seek this advice. Nevertheless,
during this third period of censorship a number of formerly banned books,
including Ulysses[8], were released. The system prevailed until after the
Second World War.

In 1957 the then Minister for Customs, Senator Denham Hently, ordered that
in the future, all books under consideration of a ban must be submitted to
the Censorship Board. The Board was extended to four members, one a woman,
and in 1960 an Appeal Board, consisting of three members, one of which was
also a woman, was established. Furthermore, the Censorship Board was
ordered to regularly review the list of banned books that led to the
release of all 178 publications on that list. Last, all university
libraries were allowed to import any books they wished, provided the
restriction of censored issues.[9] This formalization was upheld during
the 1960s.

Another major leap towards a further liberation was taken in 1971 by Don
Chipp, then Minister for Customs. He brought forward a whole new approach
towards the issue of censorship. In calling it 'evil' and stating that
'[it] is to be condemned', he called for a reduction in government action
and called upon the people to take censorship in their own hands:

'People should censor more and more. The individual, the bookseller,
should have a responsibility, the television station, the radio station,
the parent, the individual; Governments should censor less and less, move
more and more out of the field and leave it to individual choice. I would
have thought that is liberalism.'[10]

Chipp was convinced that one man/women, respectively one minister, could
not decide what his/her fellow citizens should be allowed to read. This
new way of thinking reflected in a sense the beginning transition in
Australian politics away from the conservative 'White-Australia-policy'
towards a concept of a multicultural and more liberal society.

Another step in that direction was made when the Labor Party under Prime
Minister Gough Whitlam came to power in 1972. The responsibility for
customs censorship shifted to the Attorney General and the party policy
read:

'...adults [should] be entitled to read, hear or view what they wish in
private and public and (...) persons (and those in their care) [should]
not [be] exposed to unsolicited material offensive to them.'[11]

However, the development of censorship laws and the censoring practice in
Australia should not be understood as a continuing process towards
liberalization. On the contrary, it must be seen as a wavy movement with
1972 as a concluding point. Since then, many other issues apart from mere
book censorship have arisen. The problems of violence on television and
its influence on minors caused fierce discussions, as well as the issue of
pornography and the suppression of women. The most recent debate arouse
after the enactment of a bill concerning Internet censorship. This issue
will be addressed in the following.

Internet censorship in Australia
On 1 January 2000 the Broadcasting Services Amendment (Online Services)
Bill 1999 became law. At the time of its introduction in parliament the
bill created a heated debate within the internet community about the needs
and the possibilities of censoring content of internet web sites. In a
broader context, the controversy touches the question of the right of
freedom of speech and the extent to which the government is entitled to
determine what its citizens are allowed to see and read.

Basically, the act does three things: firstly, it holds the Internet
Content Host (ICH) responsible for the content of the web sites it is
managing. The ABA is entitled to issue 'take down notices' to the ICH if
prohibited material[12] is found on a web site hosted by that ICH that
require the objected content to be removed under the threat of a $27,500
fine per day. Secondly, the act requires Internet Service Provider (ISP)
to restrict access to any content subject to a complaint and an ABA
investigation. Third, the act orders for an industry standard for Internet
content binding all ICH and ISP to be established and entitles the ABA to
set up such a standard itself if the Internet industry fails to do so.[13]

Nanny Land wrote on 11/6/23 7:38 pm:
> CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s government plans legislation
> to ban swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase
> in far- right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.
>
> While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the
> federal law would go further by also banning the trade in such
> material, Dreyfus said.
>
> “There’s been a rise in this kind of violent far right activity. We
> think it’s time for there to be a federal law which I’ll be bringing
> to the Parliament next week,” Dreyfus told Nine Network television.
>
> We’ve got responsibility for import and export. We want to see an end
> to trading in this kind of memorabilia or any items which bear those
> Nazi symbols,” Dreyfus said. “There’s no place in Australia for
> spreading of hatred and violence.”
>
> The Labor Party government controls the House of Representatives but
> not the Senate, and it’s unclear when a ban might pass or take
> effect. The law would include a penalty for people displaying Nazi
> symbols of up to a year in prison.
>
> Displaying symbols for religious, educational or artistic purposes
> would be among a range of exclusions from the ban. It will not affect
> the use of the swastika for people observing Hinduism, Buddhism and
> Jainism.
>
> Dreyfus, who is Jewish, said the number of neo-Nazis was small, but
> the main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence
> Organization, had raised concerns about their activity in the past
> three years.
>
> “This is a very small number of people. I’m hoping it’s getting small
> and it will eventually disappear,” he told Australian Broadcasting
> Corp.
>
> https://apnews.com/article/swastikas-australia-nazi-symbols-
> 16d821e089a09f6f395a7bdbbbaff692
>
So what's the bet that those who display the swastikas at protest
marches that they attend will claim they are not Nazis but, instead, are
followers of the Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism religions!!
--
Daniel

17 APRIL 2023

COUNCIL NOTE: I would suggest that the only means remaining for
WELLINGTON
SHIRE COUNCIL to mitigate vicarious liability associated to any
intended
LEGAL ACTION is to remove the CHERISHED / BLESSED MOTHER WITH NAKED
CHILD
STATUE before KING CHARLES III coronation on 6 MAY 2023.

1) The accompanying document deals with the issue on an #373 common
element
between a DEATH THREAT [#205, #237 - USE OF FORCE, #315, #321 #333,
#342,
#373 ***] OF BUTCHERED #419 - SLAUGHTERED MEAT PLACED WITHIN MY
MAILBOX ON
15 NOVEMBER 2017 as being evidence of an unaccountable and
obmutescence as
#373 - HATRED perpetuated by localised and unconstitutional IRISH
REPUBLICANISM / RETURNED SERVICES LEAGUE (RSL) protagonists of
seditious
action pursuant to 26 MARCH 2017 attendance at MICHAEL JOHN
GILMARTIN'S
STAR HOTEL for a fillet minion lunch accompanying a moderate (ie. TOSS
A BUMPER OR TWO DOWN OUR THROAT) consumption of alcohol, in making a
reasonable objection to a ruckus disruption of a requested quiet
amenity,
then resulting within an unlawful year long liquor ban upon the
entirely
fabricated and uncorroborated pretext that I threatened to kill a
patron as
a person then entirely unknown to either the hotel or myself:

- NOVICHOK poisoning event [#291 / #342 / #373 *LUOSHU*] on 4 MARCH
2018
- GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT [#298 / #373 ***] on 10 APRIL 1998
- REICH CONCORDAT [#291 / #373 ***] on 20 JULY 1933

AUSTRALIAN / IRISH CATHOLIC WEDDING 1920-30's WITH SWASTIKA

<http://www.grapple369.com/images/ChristianWeddingsWithSwastikas.jpeg>

2) An identified catalyst for action is related to the term GALLIPOLI
which
is the Italian form of the Greek name ?a???p???? (Kallipolis), meaning
'beautiful city' and thusly has an unavoidable correspondence to
FASCISM
and ROME's FOUNDATION STONES @1 - #99 / #297, @5 - #111 / #333.

This philosophical term Kallipolis actually applies to the utopian
ATLANTIS
as city-state ruled by philosopher-kings as theorised by Plato in the
Republic where the ideal city (kallipolis) had a charter myth, the
MYTH OF
THE METALS, a gennaion pseudos (Rep. III.414b) which is not best
rendered
as 'Noble Lie' but as the metaphorical or mythical statement of a
truth
which the general populace can understand and be persuaded to accept
only
in some such form.

3) TIM ROWE (MASTER OF CEREMONIES AT SAINT PATRICK'S DAY CHERISHED /
BLESSED MOTHER WITH NAKED CHILD STATUE UNVEILING) ON 22 MAY 2018:
"RESPONSE
- BOER / ANZAC DEFAMATION AS PERSECUTION (paraphrased):

#232 - *FOREVER* *YOUNG* *WAR* *GRAVES* #298 - *ENCLOSURE* *POEM*
#232 - UNLAWFUL WELLINGTON LIQUOR ACCORD BAN EVENT OF 26 MARCH 2017
#232 - PLAQUE PLACEMENT ON 8 JUNE 2017

AS THE PROBABLE WORLD WAR ONE 2018 CENTENNIAL HIJACK SCHEMA as [#6,
#2, #8,
#6, #200, #10] / [#2, #8, #6, #200, #10, #6] = bâchûwr (H970): {UMBRA:
#216
% #41 = #11} 1) youth, *YOUNG* *MAN*;

Council acknowledges receipt [ECM 2332240 / Our reference TR:SM] of
the
letter and advise that no further action will be taken at this point
in
time."

4) The diary note for the STAR HOTEL event dated 26 MARCH 2017 appears
to
conform with a dialectic obtained from a MATRIX PROTOTYPE #SIX (ie.
having
a #123 = #17, #41, #65 correspondence to the DOMINION matrix which is
associated with the LUOSHU square as then its reference object with an
implicit #38 logical fallacy) element #232 - UNLAWFUL LIQUOR BAN EVENT
26
MARCH 2017 (gâzar (H1504): *TO* *DECREE*, *EXCLUDED*, *CUT* *OFF* /
rîyb
(H7379): *DISPUTE*, *CONTROVERSY*, *CASE* *AT* *LAW*) = [#66, #42,
#18,
#65, #41]

CENTRE OF VALUE #114 = [#41 - RESPONSE (YING), #26 - ENDEAVOUR (WU),
#47 -
PATTERN (WEN)]

<http://www.grapple369.com/images/Papal%20War%20Commemorations%20Intellectual%20Property%20Theft%201.png>

A further patterning attribute was associated to 30 MAY 2017 (#308):
DATE
OF UNLAWFUL LIQUOR BAN NOTICE AS MISREPRESENTATION OF AN INCIDENTAL
STAR
HOTEL EVENT [#358 / #291] OF 26 MARCH 2017 AND THAT WAS RECEIVED UPON
5 JUNE 2017 IN TRANSITING DURING PENTECOST SUNDAY.

5) Whereas the stone pedestal with a FOREVER YOUNG POEM situated
adjacent
to a LONE PINE tree associated with GALLIPOLI on the external boundary
to
the SALE WAR GRAVES cemetery appears to deploy a dialectic obtained
from a
MATRIX PROTOTYPE #ONE (ie. having a structural correspondence to
GERMAN
fascism and immaterially to the VATICAN CITY STATE) element #232 -
FOREVER
YOUNG (bâchûwr (H970): *YOUTH*, *YOUNG* *MAN* / zâkar (H2142):
*RECALL*,
*REMEMBER*) POEM (SACRED GROVE EXTERNAL TO SALE WAR CEMETERY #298 -
ENCLOSURE) [#1, #9, #17, #25, #33, #41, #49, #57]

CENTRE OF VALUE #111 = [#38 - FULLNESS (SHENG), #33 - CLOSENESS (MI),
#40 -
LAW / MODEL (FE)]

<http://www.grapple369.com/images/Papal%20War%20Commemorations%20Intellectual%20Property%20Theft%202.png>

6) This common and besieging element #38 / #232 - 8 JUNE 2017 as
CARDINAL
GEORGE PELL's birthday as similarly occurs on the occasion of a #449 -
METAL PLAQUE INSTALLATION at the #449 (#44) - CHERISHED / BLESSED
MOTHER
WITH NAKED CHILD STATUE (ie. unveiled on #71 / #449 - SAINT PATRICK'S
DAY
17 MARCH 2017) which appears to be a transit event (BOER WAR MEMORIAL
-->
ECCLESIASTICAL CALENDAR CONFORMITY) related to an improper POPPY
wreath
observed at the BOER WAR MEMORIAL on 10 JUNE 2017.

<http://www.grapple369.com/images/OATH%2020170608%201510%20-%202.jpg>
<http://www.grapple369.com/images/BOER%2020170610%201154%20-%205.jpg>
<http://www.grapple369.com/images/BOER%2020170610%201153%20-%204.jpg>

7) Our starting point for investigation was to determine whether there
was
any unlawful relationship to my TRIPARTITE NOUMENON as INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY and the historical date 22 MARCH 1312 when the *SODOMITE* /
*IDOLATROUS* KNIGHTS TEMPLARS as a ROMAN CATHOLIC MILITARY ORDER were
disbanded by PAPAL BULL *VOX* *IN* *EXCELSO* and two Catagories of
Understanding (#273 / #415) as candidate pairings to my HOMOIOS
transformative prototype were identified.

This analogy is consistent with my 22 JULY 2022 email correspondence
to
IBAC for my having 3 TIMES asked the arresting member and the RSL
treasurer
if they were associated to the newly formed KNIGHTS TEMPLARS AS
CATHOLIC
MILITARY (#71 - MITHRAISM / DOMINION MATRIX 3x3 TIC-TAC-TOE STRATAGEM)
ORDER. And the omitting of pertinent facts within a sworn statement by
INSPECTOR SCOTT BRENNAN related to that arrest opposite the BOER WAR
MEMORIAL on 11 NOVEMBER 2017 as alleged breach of orders (charges
dismissed) fails to reference the location, property in possession as
a letter dated 8 NOVEMBER 2017 to STATE / FEDERAL ATTORNEY GENERALS
conveying
status of wreaths at BOER WAR MEMORIAL, and book: God Centre Of Value.

Given the value (#273) was less distinctive and more likely to occur
(eg: 7
x 41 = #287 as median) within the INTELLECTUS, we then sought to
discover
if there was any intersecting occurrence between the IDEA (#415) and
the
substantial meta-descriptive IDEA content related to #71 / #449 -
SAINT
PATRICK'S DAY 17 MARCH 2017 #44 / #449 - CHERISHED / BLESSED MOTHER
WITH
NAKED CHILD STATUE UNVEILING. A quintessential conflation of IDEAS
were
identified as associated with a TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE OF 12 JULY 2010
which
was then observed to have a paired correspondence with my INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY FOR FIDELITY in then providing a basis for a COHESION OF
ACTIONS
and might then rationally be enumerated by a categorical imperative
associated to:

#264 - *KEY*,
#273 - *MEMORIAL*,
#308 - *COMBAT* / *INTENTION* *TO* *KILL*,
#415 - *TREACHEROUS* *BEHAVIOUR*,
#449 - *CHERISHED* / *BLESSED* *MOTHER* *WITH* *NAKED* *CHILD*
*STATUE*
*UNVEILED* *ON* *SAINT* *PATRICK'S* *DAY* 17 MARCH 2017

For instance KERRY STOKES single-mother barmaid life circumstance was
then
causal for his being adopted by a poor Catholic couple. This then has
idea
parallels to the treasonous hijacking of the ANZAC 2018 CENTENNIAL by
a NUMI AUGUSTUS / PAPAL deference given to #71 - MITHRAISM as soldier
cultus
of the imperium. Coin collecting may have possibly existed in ancient
times. Caesar Augustus gave "coins of every device, including old
pieces of
the kings and foreign money" as Saturnalia gifts.

First attested in English 1829, the word numismatics comes from the
adjective numismatic, meaning "of coins". It was borrowed in 1792 from
French numismatique, itself a derivation from Late Latin numismatis,
genitive of numisma, a variant of nomisma meaning "coin". Nomisma is a
latinisation of the Greek ??µ?sµa (nomisma) which means "current
coin/custom", which derives from ??µ??e?? (nomizein), "to hold or own
as a
custom or usage, to use customarily", in turn from ??µ?? (nomos),
"usage,
custom", ultimately from ??µe?? (nemein), "to dispense, divide,
assign,
keep, hold". [Wikipedia 2023 Numismatics; Exonumia]

STOKES has taken an active role in preserving Australian ownership of
significant military heritage; he has now purchased three Australian
Victoria Cross medal sets, and a George Cross medal set. Stokes has
purchased all four sets via auction from Bonhams & Goodman of Sydney,
Australia:

Nanny Land <no_guns@nofreedom.com> wrote

> CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s government plans legislation to
> ban
> swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase in far-
> right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.

> While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the federal
> law would go further by also banning the trade in such material, Dreyfus
> said.

No federal govt gets to do that.

> “There’s been a rise in this kind of violent far right activity. We think
> it’s time for there to be a federal law which I’ll be bringing to the
> Parliament next week,” Dreyfus told Nine Network television.

> We’ve got responsibility for import and export. We want to see an end to
> trading in this kind of memorabilia or any items which bear those Nazi
> symbols,” Dreyfus said. “There’s no place in Australia for spreading of
> hatred and violence.”

> The Labor Party government controls the House of Representatives but not
> the Senate, and it’s unclear when a ban might pass or take effect. The
> law
> would include a penalty for people displaying Nazi symbols of up to a
> year
> in prison.

> Displaying symbols for religious, educational or artistic purposes would
> be among a range of exclusions from the ban. It will not affect the use
> of
> the swastika for people observing Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

So is just more mindless virtue signalling.

> Dreyfus, who is Jewish, said the number of neo-Nazis was small, but the
> main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence
> Organization, had raised concerns about their activity in the past three
> years.

> “This is a very small number of people. I’m hoping it’s getting small and
> it will eventually disappear,” he told Australian Broadcasting Corp.

Fat chance.

> https://apnews.com/article/swastikas-australia-nazi-symbols-
> 16d821e089a09f6f395a7bdbbbaff692

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 09:38:12 -0000 (UTC), Nanny Land
<no_guns@nofreedom.com> wrote:

>CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s government plans legislation to ban
>swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase in far-
>right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.
>While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the federal
>law would go further by also banning the trade in such material, Dreyfus
>said.

It all invites the question, why do these groups exist?
So typical of all to blame the symptoms and not the causes.
Watch out...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

Like in the USA, the Trump circus marches on while no one attends to
its causes. So fuggen typical!

The low-interest rates policy of the USA in the late 90s, the mortgage
crises there, and the 2008 crash have all the chickens coming home to
roost. Populism is doomed and we're all gonna suffer.

*Your tax dollars hard at work*
/Swollen Pickles, 27.1K subscribers, 6,287 views 11 Jun 2023/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w8HhsTI9Bc>

"When you think about all the tax that you pay, what is it you hope it
goes toward? Or, looking at it another way, what are you hoping that
it’s not going toward? For me, I’d really prefer that my tax dollars
weren’t spent on indulging a former coal miner and climate change denier
so that he can waste the time of one of the countries peak scientific
bodies as he chases the ’gotcha’ moments for his social media channels.

Here’s the 20 or so minutes of ‘questions’ (in my opinion they were more
statements than questions) the Senator Malcolm Roberts put to the CSIRO
during the Senate Economics Committee on 1 June 2023. Some people will
only ever see his 1min cherry picked grabs, but this here is what it
actually looks like."
~~~ ~~~

And 77 people actually voted for this brain dead ON creep. But that is
not the most outrageous thing about this. The fact that he has actually
made it into the Senate is the true outrage.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Sunday, 11 June 2023 at 22:37:27 UTC+10, Daniel65 wrote:
> Nanny Land wrote on 11/6/23 7:38 pm:
> > CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s government plans legislation
> > to ban swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase
> > in far- right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.
> >
> > While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the
> > federal law would go further by also banning the trade in such
> > material, Dreyfus said.
> >
> > “There’s been a rise in this kind of violent far right activity. We
> > think it’s time for there to be a federal law which I’ll be bringing
> > to the Parliament next week,” Dreyfus told Nine Network television.
> >
> > We’ve got responsibility for import and export. We want to see an end
> > to trading in this kind of memorabilia or any items which bear those
> > Nazi symbols,” Dreyfus said. “There’s no place in Australia for
> > spreading of hatred and violence.”
> >
> > The Labor Party government controls the House of Representatives but
> > not the Senate, and it’s unclear when a ban might pass or take
> > effect. The law would include a penalty for people displaying Nazi
> > symbols of up to a year in prison.
> >
> > Displaying symbols for religious, educational or artistic purposes
> > would be among a range of exclusions from the ban. It will not affect
> > the use of the swastika for people observing Hinduism, Buddhism and
> > Jainism.
> >
> > Dreyfus, who is Jewish, said the number of neo-Nazis was small, but
> > the main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security Intelligence
> > Organization, had raised concerns about their activity in the past
> > three years.
> >
> > “This is a very small number of people. I’m hoping it’s getting small
> > and it will eventually disappear,” he told Australian Broadcasting
> > Corp.
> >
> > https://apnews.com/article/swastikas-australia-nazi-symbols-
> > 16d821e089a09f6f395a7bdbbbaff692
> >
> So what's the bet that those who display the swastikas at protest
> marches that they attend will claim they are not Nazis but, instead, are
> followers of the Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism religions!!

The swastik symbol stands for eternity, infinity, cyclical recurrence but most importantly it represents swastha, or good health and clean living, for ever and for all.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
> --
> Daniel

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Nanny Land <no_guns@nofreedom.com> wrote

>> CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia’s government plans legislation to
>> ban
>> swastikas and other Nazi symbols nationwide due to an increase in far-
>> right activity, Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus said Thursday.
>> While most Australian states already ban such Nazi symbols, the federal
>> law would go further by also banning the trade in such material, Dreyfus
>> said.

> It all invites the question, why do these groups exist?

Because some are into that sort of thing.

> So typical of all to blame the symptoms and not the causes.

There are no causes that anything can be done about in this case.

> Watch out...
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

> Like in the USA, the Trump circus marches on while no one attends to
> its causes.

There are no causes that anything can be done about in this case either.

> So fuggen typical!

> The low-interest rates policy of the USA in the late 90s, the mortgage
> crises there, and the 2008 crash have all the chickens coming home to
> roost.

That isnt the reason for Trump.

> Populism is doomed and we're all gonna suffer.

Fantasy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epnW9NdYD0U

This is the real holocaust, the holocaust of souls.

Obliquity to Orbit (degrees)

Mercury, 0.034, 4918184
Venus, 177.4, 293040293
Earth, 23.4, 1
Moon, 6.7, 150620
Mars, 25.2, 12210
Jupiter, 3.1, 2647462
Saturn, 26.7, 610500
Uranus, 97.8, 282040282
Neptune, 28.3, 77522577
Pluto, 122.5, 44566544

{23.4 / 0.034 = 688.2352941, 688 * 0.2352941=,...1.64704402
(64704402 - 20440746)/9=4918184}

4918184+293040293+150620+12210+2647462+610500+282040282+77522577+44566544=705508672

705508672/8=88188584

88188584-48588188=3960396

3960396/110011=36

705508627 - 150620 = 705358007

705358007 - 700853507 = 4504500

4504500 / 100 = 45045

45045 / 45 = 1001

4504500 / 36 = 125125

521521 - 125125 = 396396

396396 / 9 = 44044

Humans have no rights to destroy the natural environment or other species, or for that matter to abuse other species for economic or other purposes.

3389833

*Wage inflation hits double digits … for chief executives, Governance
Institute finds*
/business reporter Michael Janda, ABC-News, Australia/

<https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/wage-inflation-hits-double-digits-for-ceos/102474474?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=abc_news_newsmail_am_sfmc&utm_term=&utm_id=2107742&sfmc_id=126532366>

<https://tinyurl.com/3x9myn9t>

"While debate rages as to whether a 5.75 per cent pay rise for workers
on award wages will be inflationary, a new report reveals the nation's
big business leaders received an average 15 per cent base pay rise.

The report, prepared by McGuirk Management Consultants for the
Governance Institute of Australia, surveyed 1,167 boards from across the
public, private and not-for-profit sectors, and included 226 share
market-listed companies.
Among the key findings were that chief executives of ASX-listed
companies received an average 15 per cent base pay rise, while those who
held the title of managing director saw a 14 per cent pay bump.

Those running one of the nation's top 200 companies recorded an even
bigger average fixed pay increase of 19 per cent.
That left the average base pay of an ASX 200 managing director, among
those firms that responded to the survey, at $1.6 million, while the
average pay of those titled CEO was just over $1.1 million.

However, more than half of listed-company managing directors and CEOs
were eligible for performance bonuses, with an average maximum of 89 per
cent for managing directors and 72 per cent for CEOs.
The Governance Institute's chief executive Megan Motto said the 2023
data showed a big jump after a period of more moderate pay rises.
"These are significant increases off the back of several years of
relatively small rises in fixed pay for executives," Ms Motto said.
"With AGM season looming, boards will need to have a strong narrative
around their remuneration policies to stand up to shareholder scrutiny
and manage reputation risks." ... "
~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~

Well, based on commentary from our inflated ego sociopaths constantly
posting hateful rants about dole bludgers, low paid workers as the true
enemy of the state and economy who are all just lazy bastards, unwilling
to work hard enough, unemployable, wanting taxpayers' gold in return for
nothing one would think that they are onto something.
These must be the undeserving leaches in our society, indifferent
subhumans who do not care about the horrible poverty and suffering of
business owners and the upper management in mega corporations.
How dare they ask for any wage increases and better working conditions.
Instead they should be paid much-much less, like $2/hour...a day...a
week... a month... even better a year, so that our heavenly economy can
finally come to full blossoms as share prices rocket and dividends
produce a deluge of gold.

Yeah!

And now back to reality.
Upper class scumbags who manufacture all this greed driven inflation and
interest rate increases keep on giving themselves double digit wage
increases and extra bonuses while getting corrupt politicians to grant
them generous tax-cuts and laws that allow for amazing tax minimization
schemes. They manipulate the markets and the whole economy for their own
befits while putting the blame for anything negative on the working people.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:01:38 +1000, Ördög
<newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:

Truly disgusting, but not relevant.

The true problem is usury, where the Great Unwashed have hocked
themselves into oblivion.

The credit card introduction, combined with advertising Dr Goebbels
would have envied, have now produced a race of slaves endlessly
working for The Man.

Now it seems every clucky bimbo needs a house of gargantuan
proportions, stocked to the rafters with the latest gadget and
fittings, and not forgetting the annual overseas trip de-rigueur for
anybody who is anybody. And houses are wasting assets.

And interest rates? Any fool can see that any increase will be costed
in to goods and services, where the true solution is to RATION credit.

Consumer credit is the opium of the people!

I advise a tightening up (ie increasing) the Statutory Reserve
Deposits (SRDs) in banks instead of raising interest rates, thereby
reducing debt.

But I cry in the wilderness.

Something Wicked this Way Comes.
We're all gonna die.

*The Ugly Divorce between China and Australia (2017-2021)*
/Mr M History, 16.8K subscribers, 5.6K views/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pz5Mo_jnRM>

"In recent years, tensions between Australia and China have escalated to
unprecedented levels, with both countries engaging in a war of words and
imposing tariffs on each other's products. In this YouTube video, we'll
take a closer look at the breakdown of relations between these two
nations and the factors that have contributed to this situation.

We'll begin by examining the historical context of the Australia-China
relationship, including the economic ties that have developed between
the two countries over the past few decades. From there, we'll explore
the specific issues that have caused friction between the two nations,
such as Australia's decision to ban Chinese telecommunications giant
Huawei from participating in its 5G network and its call for an
independent investigation into the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic.
We'll also look at how China has responded to these actions, with
retaliatory measures including tariffs on Australian wine, coal, and
other goods. This has had a significant impact on the Australian
economy, with many businesses suffering as a result of the trade
restrictions.

Furthermore, we'll delve into the geopolitical implications of this
conflict, including the role of the United States and its efforts to
push back against China's increasing global influence. We'll also
examine the potential long-term consequences of this breakdown in
relations, such as the impact on regional stability and the global economy."

~~~ ~~~
I am just as critical about many things China is doing these days both
domestically and on the international scene as any other democracy and
human rights proponent in our country is.
But in order to maintain Australian geopolitical interests as well as
keeping trade ties as functional as possible under the circumstances for
keeping our economy strong we needed decent and talented politicians in
the government.
Sadly what we've got instead were short sighted, self-centered and
ideological-nutjob US brown-noser clowns like ScoMo who made things a
lot worse for OZ than it had to be.

The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Ördög wrote on 14/06/2023 9:01 am:
> *Wage inflation hits double digits … for chief executives, Governance
> Institute finds* /business reporter Michael Janda, ABC-News,
> Australia/
>
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/wage-inflation-hits-double-digits-for-ceos/102474474?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=abc_news_newsmail_am_sfmc&utm_term=&utm_id=2107742&sfmc_id=126532366>
>
>
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/3x9myn9t>
>
> "While debate rages as to whether a 5.75 per cent pay rise for
> workers on award wages will be inflationary, a new report reveals the
> nation's big business leaders received an average 15 per cent base
> pay rise.
>
> The report, prepared by McGuirk Management Consultants for the
> Governance Institute of Australia, surveyed 1,167 boards from across
> the public, private and not-for-profit sectors, and included 226
> share market-listed companies. Among the key findings were that chief
> executives of ASX-listed companies received an average 15 per cent
> base pay rise, while those who held the title of managing director
> saw a 14 per cent pay bump.
>
> Those running one of the nation's top 200 companies recorded an even
> bigger average fixed pay increase of 19 per cent. That left the
> average base pay of an ASX 200 managing director, among those firms
> that responded to the survey, at $1.6 million, while the average pay
> of those titled CEO was just over $1.1 million.
>
> However, more than half of listed-company managing directors and CEOs
> were eligible for performance bonuses, with an average maximum of 89
> per cent for managing directors and 72 per cent for CEOs. The
> Governance Institute's chief executive Megan Motto said the 2023 data
> showed a big jump after a period of more moderate pay rises. "These
> are significant increases off the back of several years of relatively
> small rises in fixed pay for executives," Ms Motto said. "With AGM
> season looming, boards will need to have a strong narrative around
> their remuneration policies to stand up to shareholder scrutiny and
> manage reputation risks." ... " ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~
>
> Well, based on commentary from our inflated ego sociopaths constantly
> posting hateful rants about dole bludgers, low paid workers as the
> true enemy of the state and economy who are all just lazy bastards,
> unwilling to work hard enough, unemployable, wanting taxpayers' gold
> in return for nothing one would think that they are onto something.
> These must be the undeserving leaches in our society, indifferent
> subhumans who do not care about the horrible poverty and suffering of
> business owners and the upper management in mega corporations. How
> dare they ask for any wage increases and better working conditions.
> Instead they should be paid much-much less, like $2/hour...a day...a
> week... a month... even better a year, so that our heavenly economy
> can finally come to full blossoms as share prices rocket and
> dividends produce a deluge of gold.
>
> Yeah!
>
> And now back to reality. Upper class scumbags who manufacture all
> this greed driven inflation and interest rate increases keep on
> giving themselves double digit wage increases and extra bonuses while
> getting corrupt politicians to grant them generous tax-cuts and laws
> that allow for amazing tax minimization schemes. They manipulate the
> markets and the whole economy for their own befits while putting the
> blame for anything negative on the working people.

..... but, Ordog, you seem to forget .... for every middle-manager there
are, what, ten or a dozen slave-wage earners .... so it is only right,
isn't it, that the middle-managers should get ten to a dozen times the
wage rise of the slave-wage earners ..... and even more so for the
Managers/Board Members!! ;-P
--
Daniel

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

> The true problem is usury, where the Great Unwashed have hocked
> themselves into oblivion.

Plenty of them haven't.

> The credit card introduction, combined with advertising Dr Goebbels
> would have envied, have now produced a race of slaves endlessly
> working for The Man.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> Now it seems every clucky bimbo needs a house of gargantuan
> proportions, stocked to the rafters with the latest gadget and
> fittings, and not forgetting the annual overseas trip de-rigueur for
> anybody who is anybody. And houses are wasting assets.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> And interest rates? Any fool can see that any increase will be costed
> in to goods and services, where the true solution is to RATION credit.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> Consumer credit is the opium of the people!

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
fantasys.

> I advise a tightening up (ie increasing) the Statutory Reserve
> Deposits (SRDs) in banks instead of raising interest rates, thereby
> reducing debt.

Fat lot of good that would do to inflation.

> But I cry in the wilderness.

Because everyone has noticed that you are just
another drug crazed drunken psychopath that
has never had a fucking clue and is broke.

> Something Wicked this Way Comes.
> We're all gonna die.

That will happen regardless, stupid.

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 14:23:10 UTC+10, Ördög wrote:
> *The Ugly Divorce between China and Australia (2017-2021)*
We can still travel to China, so what is bad! And buy things too.
They are opening up after covid.
Our tour of China was cancelled, let us see if they start again.

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 09:01:43 UTC+10, Ördög wrote:
> *Wage inflation hits double digits … for chief executives, Governance
> Institute finds*
> /business reporter Michael Janda, ABC-News, Australia/
>
> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/wage-inflation-hits-double-digits-for-ceos/102474474?utm_source=sfmc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=abc_news_newsmail_am_sfmc&utm_term=&utm_id=2107742&sfmc_id=126532366>
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/3x9myn9t>
>
> "While debate rages as to whether a 5.75 per cent pay rise for workers
> on award wages will be inflationary, a new report reveals the nation's
> big business leaders received an average 15 per cent base pay rise.

So? No point being selfish-greedy if you don't grab as much as you can.
Question is, why stop at just 15%. Of what are they scared?
>
> The report, prepared by McGuirk Management Consultants for the
> Governance Institute of Australia, surveyed 1,167 boards from across the
> public, private and not-for-profit sectors, and included 226 share
> market-listed companies.
> Among the key findings were that chief executives of ASX-listed
> companies received an average 15 per cent base pay rise, while those who
> held the title of managing director saw a 14 per cent pay bump.
>
> Those running one of the nation's top 200 companies recorded an even
> bigger average fixed pay increase of 19 per cent.
> That left the average base pay of an ASX 200 managing director, among
> those firms that responded to the survey, at $1.6 million, while the
> average pay of those titled CEO was just over $1.1 million.
>
> However, more than half of listed-company managing directors and CEOs
> were eligible for performance bonuses, with an average maximum of 89 per
> cent for managing directors and 72 per cent for CEOs.
> The Governance Institute's chief executive Megan Motto said the 2023
> data showed a big jump after a period of more moderate pay rises.
> "These are significant increases off the back of several years of
> relatively small rises in fixed pay for executives," Ms Motto said.
> "With AGM season looming, boards will need to have a strong narrative
> around their remuneration policies to stand up to shareholder scrutiny
> and manage reputation risks." ... "
> ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~
>
> Well, based on commentary from our inflated ego sociopaths constantly
> posting hateful rants about dole bludgers, low paid workers as the true
> enemy of the state and economy who are all just lazy bastards, unwilling
> to work hard enough, unemployable, wanting taxpayers' gold in return for
> nothing one would think that they are onto something.
> These must be the undeserving leaches in our society, indifferent
> subhumans who do not care about the horrible poverty and suffering of
> business owners and the upper management in mega corporations.
> How dare they ask for any wage increases and better working conditions.
> Instead they should be paid much-much less, like $2/hour...a day...a
> week... a month... even better a year, so that our heavenly economy can
> finally come to full blossoms as share prices rocket and dividends
> produce a deluge of gold.
>
> Yeah!
>
> And now back to reality.
> Upper class scumbags who manufacture all this greed driven inflation and
> interest rate increases keep on giving themselves double digit wage
> increases and extra bonuses while getting corrupt politicians to grant
> them generous tax-cuts and laws that allow for amazing tax minimization
> schemes. They manipulate the markets and the whole economy for their own
> befits while putting the blame for anything negative on the working people.

The working people are lazy fools who do not want proper scientific and technical change, as I have been proposing for years.
htnresearch.com provides many answers, to begin with.
They need to unite under good ideas and people they can trust.
>
>
> --
> The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Just an orPooch.

Cannot she be expelled from the senate?
What an embarrassment to the country.

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

> Cannot she be expelled from the senate?

Nope, not possible.

> What an embarrassment to the country.

Your sig is sposed to have a line with just -- on it in front of it.

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:17:55 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>> The true problem is usury, where the Great Unwashed have hocked
>> themselves into oblivion.
>
>Plenty of them haven't.
>
>> The credit card introduction, combined with advertising Dr Goebbels
>> would have envied, have now produced a race of slaves endlessly
>> working for The Man.
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.

No answer, Huh?
>
>> Now it seems every clucky bimbo needs a house of gargantuan
>> proportions, stocked to the rafters with the latest gadget and
>> fittings, and not forgetting the annual overseas trip de-rigueur for
>> anybody who is anybody. And houses are wasting assets.
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.

No answer, Huh?

>
>> And interest rates? Any fool can see that any increase will be costed
>> in to goods and services, where the true solution is to RATION credit.
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.
No answer, Huh?
>
>> Consumer credit is the opium of the people!
>
>Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken psychotic
>fantasys.
>
No answer, Huh?
>> I advise a tightening up (ie increasing) the Statutory Reserve
>> Deposits (SRDs) in banks instead of raising interest rates, thereby
>> reducing debt.
>
>Fat lot of good that would do to inflation.
People will stop spending on consumer junk.
>
>> But I cry in the wilderness.
>
>Because everyone has noticed that you are just
>another drug crazed drunken psychopath that
>has never had a fucking clue and is broke.

Uh, wot? It was a little boy who saw the Emperor had no Clothes.
>
>> Something Wicked this Way Comes.
>> We're all gonna die.
>
>That will happen regardless, stupid.