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SubjectAuthor
* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
+* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Christopher A. Lee
|`* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Recliner
| +* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tweed
| |`* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| | +* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
| | |`* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| | | `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
| | |  `- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| | `- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Brian Morrison
| +* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
| |`* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| | +- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
| | `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Alan
| |  `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| |   `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Recliner
| |    `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| |     +* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Recliner
| |     |+* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| |     ||+- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Alan
| |     ||+- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Recliner
| |     ||`* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Muttley
| |     || `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Rupert Moss-Eccardt
| |     ||  `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Muttley
| |     ||   `* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Roland Perry
| |     ||    `- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Muttley
| |     |`- Bye Bye East-West Rail?martin.coffee
| |     +* Bye Bye East-West Rail?Alan
| |     |`- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Tim Ward
| |     `- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Muttley
| `- Bye Bye East-West Rail?NY
`- Bye Bye East-West Rail?Nigel Emery

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Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?

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From: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups: uk.railway,cam.transport
Subject: Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:31:08 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:31 UTC

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:40:48 +0000
Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>On 25/02/2022 20:31, Recliner wrote:
>>
>> It can therefore blight property prices in a large area for years.
>
>By "blight" do you mean
>
>(a) increase, because of the additional value of having a train service,
>thus making it harder for people to live there
>
>or
>
>(b) reduce, thus making it more likely that residents' children will
>actually be able to afford somewhere to live
>
>?

Presumably (if you own a house) when you come to sell it you'll do so at
a nice discount well below market price so a young family can afford it?

[crickets]

Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?

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Subject: Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?
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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:35 UTC

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:40:28 +0000
Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>On 25/02/2022 21:16, Recliner wrote:
>>
>> So, by your logic, local residents in nice areas would automatically
>> welcome new sewage works,
>
>Do they ever use a toilet?
>
>> smelly pig farms,
>
>Do they ever eat bacon?
>
>> incinerators,
>
>Do they ever throw away rubbish?
>
>> airports,
>
>Do they ever fly anywhere?
>
>> motorways
>
>Do they ever drive anywhere?
>
>> and high voltage power lines?
>
>Do they have electricity in their "nice areas"?
>
>If the answer to any of these is "yes", then why TF should they expect
>other people to bear all their externalised costs?

You put your web address in your posts which links to your CV which has your
address (which I won't post here but is easy for others to find). You live
in a pleasent leafy suburb so don't expect others to put up with shit that
you clearly don't have to.

Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?

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Subject: Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?
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 by: martin.c...@round-midnight.org.uk - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 12:14 UTC

On 25/02/2022 21:16, Recliner wrote:
> Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 25/02/2022 20:31, Recliner wrote:
>>>
>>> It can therefore blight property prices in a large area for years.
>>
>> By "blight" do you mean
>>
>> (a) increase, because of the additional value of having a train service,
>> thus making it harder for people to live there
>>
>> or
>>
>> (b) reduce, thus making it more likely that residents' children will
>> actually be able to afford somewhere to live
>>
>> ?
>>
>
> So, by your logic, local residents in nice areas would automatically
> welcome new sewage works, smelly pig farms, incinerators, airports,
> motorways and high voltage power lines?
>

Don't forget net railway lines.

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 by: Rupert Moss-Eccardt - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:25 UTC

On 26 Feb 2022 10:35, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:40:28 +0000
> Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>>On 25/02/2022 21:16, Recliner wrote:
>>>
>>> So, by your logic, local residents in nice areas would automatically
>>> welcome new sewage works,
>>
>>Do they ever use a toilet?
>>
>>> smelly pig farms,
>>
>>Do they ever eat bacon?
>>
>>> incinerators,
>>
>>Do they ever throw away rubbish?
>>
>>> airports,
>>
>>Do they ever fly anywhere?
>>
>>> motorways
>>
>>Do they ever drive anywhere?
>>
>>> and high voltage power lines?
>>
>>Do they have electricity in their "nice areas"?
>>
>>If the answer to any of these is "yes", then why TF should they
expect
>>other people to bear all their externalised costs?
>
> You put your web address in your posts which links to your CV which has your
> address (which I won't post here but is easy for others to find). You live
> in a pleasent leafy suburb so don't expect others to put up with shit that
> you clearly don't have to.

I don't think you know the area well at all.

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:18 UTC

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:25:46 +0000
Rupert Moss-Eccardt <nin@moss-eccardt.com> wrote:
>On 26 Feb 2022 10:35, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:40:28 +0000
>> Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>>>On 25/02/2022 21:16, Recliner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, by your logic, local residents in nice areas would automatically
>>>> welcome new sewage works,
>>>
>>>Do they ever use a toilet?
>>>
>>>> smelly pig farms,
>>>
>>>Do they ever eat bacon?
>>>
>>>> incinerators,
>>>
>>>Do they ever throw away rubbish?
>>>
>>>> airports,
>>>
>>>Do they ever fly anywhere?
>>>
>>>> motorways
>>>
>>>Do they ever drive anywhere?
>>>
>>>> and high voltage power lines?
>>>
>>>Do they have electricity in their "nice areas"?
>>>
>>>If the answer to any of these is "yes", then why TF should they
>expect
>>>other people to bear all their externalised costs?
>>
>> You put your web address in your posts which links to your CV which has your
>> address (which I won't post here but is easy for others to find). You live
>> in a pleasent leafy suburb so don't expect others to put up with shit that
>> you clearly don't have to.
>
>I don't think you know the area well at all.

Looks nice enough on streetview. Has it been bombed since google went through?

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Subject: Re: Bye Bye East-West Rail?
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 by: Roland Perry - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:34 UTC

In message <svi7gp$n6e$1@gioia.aioe.org>, at 10:18:01 on Mon, 28 Feb
2022, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:25:46 +0000
>Rupert Moss-Eccardt <nin@moss-eccardt.com> wrote:
>>On 26 Feb 2022 10:35, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:40:28 +0000
>>> Tim Ward <tim@brettward.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>On 25/02/2022 21:16, Recliner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So, by your logic, local residents in nice areas would automatically
>>>>> welcome new sewage works,
>>>>
>>>>Do they ever use a toilet?
>>>>
>>>>> smelly pig farms,
>>>>
>>>>Do they ever eat bacon?
>>>>
>>>>> incinerators,
>>>>
>>>>Do they ever throw away rubbish?
>>>>
>>>>> airports,
>>>>
>>>>Do they ever fly anywhere?
>>>>
>>>>> motorways
>>>>
>>>>Do they ever drive anywhere?
>>>>
>>>>> and high voltage power lines?
>>>>
>>>>Do they have electricity in their "nice areas"?
>>>>
>>>>If the answer to any of these is "yes", then why TF should they
>>expect
>>>>other people to bear all their externalised costs?
>>>
>>> You put your web address in your posts which links to your CV which has your
>>> address (which I won't post here but is easy for others to find). You live
>>> in a pleasent leafy suburb so don't expect others to put up with shit that
>>> you clearly don't have to.
>>
>>I don't think you know the area well at all.
>
>Looks nice enough on streetview. Has it been bombed since google went through?

With all due respect to the current residents, long term it would
probably be the first bit of Cambridge which would come to mind if
folks were asked "where is the local sink estate".
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Mutt...@dastardlyhq.com - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:57 UTC

On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:34:41 +0000
Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <svi7gp$n6e$1@gioia.aioe.org>, at 10:18:01 on Mon, 28 Feb
>2022, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com remarked:
>>>> address (which I won't post here but is easy for others to find). You live
>>>> in a pleasent leafy suburb so don't expect others to put up with shit that
>>>> you clearly don't have to.
>>>
>>>I don't think you know the area well at all.
>>
>>Looks nice enough on streetview. Has it been bombed since google went through?
>
>
>With all due respect to the current residents, long term it would
>probably be the first bit of Cambridge which would come to mind if
>folks were asked "where is the local sink estate".

Presumably folks who've luckily never had the misfortune to visit Tottenham or
Edmonton which seems to be where scum wash up like plastic on a beach.

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