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* E10 and petrol toolsnewshound
+* Re: E10 and petrol toolsAlgernon Goss-Custard
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 by: newshound - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 20:37 UTC

According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.

Suggestions about "increased corrosion".

Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?

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From: Ben...@nowhere.com (Algernon Goss-Custard)
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 by: Algernon Goss-Custar - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 05:58 UTC

newshound <newshound@stevejqr.plus.com> posted
>According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
>unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>
>Suggestions about "increased corrosion".
>
>Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?

The theory is that ethanol attacks certain polymer components such as
seals or tubes, and the solder used in some carburettor floats.

I am hoping that the various manufacturers will publish advice about
which of their models can safely be run on E10. If not, I'll probably
use the super unleaded stuff and swallow the extra cost, at least in the
outboard motor, which I really don't want to pack up while I'm using it.

--
Algernon

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 by: Chris Green - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 07:56 UTC

newshound <newshound@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
> According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
> unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>
All my "mowers and generators" are diesel and I use red diesel in
them! :-)

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 by: alan_m - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 09:35 UTC

On 02/08/2021 21:37, newshound wrote:
> According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
> unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>
> Suggestions about "increased corrosion".
>
> Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?

Just use a fuel conditioner

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/eu/en_gb/products/care-products/fuel-fit.html

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 by: newshound - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 12:21 UTC

On 03/08/2021 10:35, alan_m wrote:
> On 02/08/2021 21:37, newshound wrote:
>> According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
>> unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>>
>> Suggestions about "increased corrosion".
>>
>> Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?
>
>
> Just use a fuel conditioner
>
> https://www.briggsandstratton.com/eu/en_gb/products/care-products/fuel-fit.html
>
>
Adds about 30p per litre, so same ball park as "super"

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 by: newshound - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 12:33 UTC

On 03/08/2021 06:58, Algernon Goss-Custard wrote:
> newshound <newshound@stevejqr.plus.com> posted
>> According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
>> unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>>
>> Suggestions about "increased corrosion".
>>
>> Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?
>
> The theory is that ethanol attacks certain polymer components such as
> seals or tubes, and the solder used in some carburettor floats.

Polymer bit is true for some classic cars, not obvious to me why it
should attack solder.

Most of my "petrol" tools are less than 10 years old and I'd expect them
to use modern polymers (and certainly no soldered floats!).

I *think* it is probably a typical modern scare story.

>
> I am hoping that the various manufacturers will publish advice about
> which of their models can safely be run on E10. If not, I'll probably
> use the super unleaded stuff and swallow the extra cost, at least in the
> outboard motor, which I really don't want to pack up while I'm using it.
>

There is a fair amount of info out there for cars, the gov.uk site is a
good start. My most vulnerable vehicle is a 2004 Suzuki Carry, but
Suzuki have apparently been OK since 2002.

Point taken about an outboard, that is one engine that you don't want to
fail!

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 by: Andrew - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:27 UTC

On 03/08/2021 13:21, newshound wrote:
> On 03/08/2021 10:35, alan_m wrote:
>> On 02/08/2021 21:37, newshound wrote:
>>> According to an AA "Technical Specialist", we should be using super
>>> unleaded for our mowers and generators rather than E10.
>>>
>>> Suggestions about "increased corrosion".
>>>
>>> Anyone planning to follow this advice; if so why?
>>
>>
>> Just use a fuel conditioner
>>
>> https://www.briggsandstratton.com/eu/en_gb/products/care-products/fuel-fit.html
>>
>>
> Adds about 30p per litre, so same ball park as "super"

Is AVGas still available ?

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 by: Vir Campestris - Tue, 3 Aug 2021 20:23 UTC

On 03/08/2021 13:33, newshound wrote:
> There is a fair amount of info out there for cars, the gov.uk site is a
> good start. My most vulnerable vehicle is a 2004 Suzuki Carry, but
> Suzuki have apparently been OK since 2002.
>
It says all Toyotas since 2000 are good.

Mine's a 2000 model, but the last of a line that was started in 1985.

I'll treat it to the good stuff.

> Point taken about an outboard, that is one engine that you don't want to
> fail!

No single point of failure. You're better off with two smaller ones. Or
at least carry the one off the dinghy, it might get you home.

Eventually.

Andy

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