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Subject: Win 11
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 by: Max - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 06:29 UTC

Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?

Will it ever become so?

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 by: keithr0 - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 11:58 UTC

On 24/03/2022 4:29 pm, Max wrote:
> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>
> Will it ever become so?

It can't be as the majority of win10 machines can't even run it.

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:49 UTC

Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:

> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?

Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But maybe MS
will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.

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Subject: Re: Win 11
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 by: David Pea - Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:53 UTC

Marco Moock wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>
>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>
> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But maybe MS
> will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>

I be still using Win7

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Subject: Re: Win 11
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100
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 by: Max - Sat, 26 Mar 2022 04:07 UTC

On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
> Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>>
>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>>
>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But maybe MS
>> will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>>
>
> I be still using Win7

But then you won't get the security updates?

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Subject: Re: Win 11
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 by: Petzl - Sat, 26 Mar 2022 22:22 UTC

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>> Marco Moock wrote:
>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>>>
>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>>>
>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But maybe MS
>>> will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>>>
>>
>> I be still using Win7
>
>But then you won't get the security updates?
>
As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
matter.
--
Petzl
The philosophy of the school room in one generation
will be the philosophy of government in the next
- Abraham Lincoln

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 by: Marco Moock - Sun, 27 Mar 2022 17:59 UTC

Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:

> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
> >On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
> >> Marco Moock wrote:
> >>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
> >>>
> >>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
> >>>
> >>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
> >>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I be still using Win7
> >
> >But then you won't get the security updates?
> >
> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
> matter.

Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
detected by anti virus software.
Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any other
anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.

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 by: Petzl - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 02:41 UTC

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:59:01 +0200, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
wrote:

>Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>> >On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>> >> Marco Moock wrote:
>> >>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>> >>>
>> >>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
>> >>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I be still using Win7
>> >
>> >But then you won't get the security updates?
>> >
>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
>> matter.
>
>Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
>detected by anti virus software.
>Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
>default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any other
>anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
>
Wibdows defender is ok, I use that AND SpyHunter.
WIN10 here by the way
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

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 by: Max - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:37 UTC

On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
>>>>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I be still using Win7
>>>
>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
>>>
>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
>> matter.
>
> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
> detected by anti virus software.
> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
> default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any other
> anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
>

Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 03:29 UTC

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:37:55 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

>On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>>
>>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
>>>>>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I be still using Win7
>>>>
>>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
>>>>
>>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
>>> matter.
>>
>> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
>> detected by anti virus software.
>> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
>> default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any other
>> anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
>>
>
>Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?
>
Just use a anti-vrus/Malware app
Windows defender is a good choice.
I use two
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

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 by: Marco Moock - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:05 UTC

Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2022, um 11:37:55 Uhr schrieb Max:

> On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
> >
> >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
> >>>> Marco Moock wrote:
> >>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
> >>>>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I be still using Win7
> >>>
> >>> But then you won't get the security updates?
> >>>
> >> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
> >> matter.
> >
> > Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
> > detected by anti virus software.
> > Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
> > default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any
> > other anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
> >
>
> Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?

Yes, it is called ESU. You need to pay for it to receive the updates.
IIRC there is a possibility to bypass that, but that seems illegal for
me.

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 by: Marco Moock - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:05 UTC

Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2022, um 14:29:52 Uhr schrieb Petzl:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:37:55 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
> >On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
> >> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
> >>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
> >>>>>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I be still using Win7
> >>>>
> >>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
> >>>>
> >>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
> >>> matter.
> >>
> >> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
> >> detected by anti virus software.
> >> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
> >> default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any
> >> other anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
> >>
> >
> >Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?
> >
> Just use a anti-vrus/Malware app
> Windows defender is a good choice.
> I use two

AV doesn't protect you from security vulnerabilities because of bugs in
software.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:51 UTC

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:05:56 +0200, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
wrote:

>Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2022, um 14:29:52 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:37:55 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>> >On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
>> >> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>> >>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
>> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025. But
>> >>>>>> maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win 11.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I be still using Win7
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
>> >>>>
>> >>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender shouldn't
>> >>> matter.
>> >>
>> >> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can be
>> >> detected by anti virus software.
>> >> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that by
>> >> default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender or any
>> >> other anti virus software can't protect you in this situation.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?
>> >
>> Just use a anti-vrus/Malware app
>> Windows defender is a good choice.
>> I use two
>
>AV doesn't protect you from security vulnerabilities because of bugs in
>software.
>
I have found if Microsoft develop a security problem from old programs
widows defender will tell you to disable it.
Did this with Skype some years ago after Microsoft took Skype over.

If something in WIN7 has a known security problem Windows defender
will always tell you of it!
--
Petzl
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true;
the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

- Soren Kierkegaard

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:08 UTC

Am Donnerstag, 31. März 2022, um 20:51:30 Uhr schrieb Petzl:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:05:56 +0200, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
> wrote:
>
> >Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2022, um 14:29:52 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
> >
> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:37:55 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
> >> >> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
> >> >>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025.
> >> >>>>>> But maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win
> >> >>>>>> 11.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I be still using Win7
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender
> >> >>> shouldn't matter.
> >> >>
> >> >> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can
> >> >> be detected by anti virus software.
> >> >> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that
> >> >> by default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender
> >> >> or any other anti virus software can't protect you in this
> >> >> situation.
> >> >
> >> >Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?
> >> >
> >> Just use a anti-vrus/Malware app
> >> Windows defender is a good choice.
> >> I use two
> >
> >AV doesn't protect you from security vulnerabilities because of bugs
> >in software.
> >
> I have found if Microsoft develop a security problem from old programs
> widows defender will tell you to disable it.
> Did this with Skype some years ago after Microsoft took Skype over.
>
> If something in WIN7 has a known security problem Windows defender
> will always tell you of it!

That is new to me.
Then W7 users will be told that IE, Office 2010 etc. shouldn't be used
and that it will be disabled?
I don't think that this happens.

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 by: Petzl - Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:39 UTC

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 13:08:51 +0200, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
wrote:

>Am Donnerstag, 31. März 2022, um 20:51:30 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:05:56 +0200, Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2022, um 14:29:52 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:37:55 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 28/03/2022 4:59 am, Marco Moock wrote:
>> >> >> Am Sonntag, 27. März 2022, um 09:22:48 Uhr schrieb Petzl:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:07:16 +1100, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> On 25/03/2022 9:53 pm, David Pea wrote:
>> >> >>>>> Marco Moock wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2022, um 17:29:56 Uhr schrieb Max:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Is Win 11 a mandatory update to Win 10 yet?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Not yet, MS also says Win 10 will be supported until 2025.
>> >> >>>>>> But maybe MS will enable automatic updates to install Win
>> >> >>>>>> 11.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I be still using Win7
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> But then you won't get the security updates?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> As long as you use a sercurity App even Windows defender
>> >> >>> shouldn't matter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Completely wrong. Many attacks are not malware itself that can
>> >> >> be detected by anti virus software.
>> >> >> Especially when you operate network services (Windows does that
>> >> >> by default) your system might be vulnerable. Windows Defender
>> >> >> or any other anti virus software can't protect you in this
>> >> >> situation.
>> >> >
>> >> >Does MS still give security updates to Win 7?
>> >> >
>> >> Just use a anti-vrus/Malware app
>> >> Windows defender is a good choice.
>> >> I use two
>> >
>> >AV doesn't protect you from security vulnerabilities because of bugs
>> >in software.
>> >
>> I have found if Microsoft develop a security problem from old programs
>> windows defender will tell you to disable it.
>> Did this with Skype some years ago after Microsoft took Skype over.
>>
>> If something in WIN7 has a known security problem Windows defender
>> will always tell you of it!
>
>That is new to me.
>Then W7 users will be told that IE, Office 2010 etc. shouldn't be used
>and that it will be disabled?
>I don't think that this happens.
>
I don't see why Office 2010 etc, should be disabled?
If there are risks later on in using the service, Windows Defender
will inform you. (I don't use Office)
There are plenty of secondary companies out there that can step in.
"Google Workplace" already offer alternatives.
--
Petzl
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true;
the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

- Soren Kierkegaard

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