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* Freight 319s, 321s and similarRobert
+* Freight 319s, 321s and similarRoland Perry
|`* Freight 319s, 321s and similarNigel Emery
| +* Freight 319s, 321s and similarRecliner
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| | `- Freight 319s, 321s and similarNigel Emery
| `- Freight 319s, 321s and similarRoland Perry
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From: monst...@spammedia.com (Robert)
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 by: Robert - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:45 UTC

Evening all,

I'm a little out of the loop, but has anything come of the two (maybe
more?) companies which were trialling converted EMUs for use on parcels
and light goods trains?

Are there any regular services yet?

A quick Google search only gives the press releases from the last couple
of years.

Cheers,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational
in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary
to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7

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From: rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: Freight 319s, 321s and similar
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 by: Roland Perry - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:05 UTC

In message <j9hdtnFinv5U1@mid.individual.net>, at 18:45:11 on Thu, 17
Mar 2022, Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> remarked:

>I'm a little out of the loop, but has anything come of the two (maybe
>more?) companies which were trialling converted EMUs for use on parcels
>and light goods trains?

As far as I know all the ones for parachuting-in parcel traffic to
Euston were publicity stunts. Meanwhile there are 15 of these still in
service, allegedly:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325>
--
Roland Perry

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 by: Nigel Emery - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 21:14 UTC

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:05:52 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>As far as I know all the ones for parachuting-in parcel traffic to
>Euston were publicity stunts. Meanwhile there are 15 of these still in
>service, allegedly:
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325>

Why allegedly?

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 by: Recliner - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:08 UTC

Nigel Emery <nigele3@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:05:52 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> As far as I know all the ones for parachuting-in parcel traffic to
>> Euston were publicity stunts. Meanwhile there are 15 of these still in
>> service, allegedly:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325>
>
> Why allegedly?
>
>

Have they not all retired?

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 by: Recliner - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:10 UTC

Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> wrote:
> Evening all,
>
> I'm a little out of the loop, but has anything come of the two (maybe
> more?) companies which were trialling converted EMUs for use on parcels
> and light goods trains?
>
> Are there any regular services yet?
>
> A quick Google search only gives the press releases from the last couple
> of years.

A number of units are being converted, but I'm not aware of any regular
services yet.

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 by: Nigel Emery - Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:34 UTC

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:08:31 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Have they not all retired?

No other than 1 stripped for spares the rest of the fleet are in Daily
(Monday to Friday) use. There are 5 daily departures and 5 daily
arrivals scheduled at Willesden PRDC, 3 to Shieldmuir, 1 to Warrington
and 1 to Low Fell (via ECML). The WCML trains are usually 12 coach (3
sets). Looking at Real Time Trains 4 out of the 5 ran today.
Warrington was canceled which is normal, the 2 Shieldmuir trains drop
off traffic at Warrington if required by Royal Mail. I think I read
recently that 10 or so units are required for a normal day with
another on maintenance at Crewe Electric so there are a couple spare
each day.
As I write this the 2245 from Willesden to Low Fell has just passed
Alexandra Palace 2 mins down. Arrival at Low Fell is scheduled for
02.58 tomorrow.

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 by: Nigel Emery - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 00:00 UTC

On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:34:26 +0000, Nigel Emery
<nigele3@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As I write this the 2245 from Willesden to Low Fell has just passed
>Alexandra Palace 2 mins down. Arrival at Low Fell is scheduled for
>02.58 tomorrow.

Just watched it through Peterborough on the Webcam, it's picked up a
bit, now 14 early. Single unit today.

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From: rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland Perry)
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 by: Roland Perry - Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:38 UTC

In message <NqMzYjniNgegI7gt8fZsYQK56lzJ@4ax.com>, at 21:14:04 on Thu,
17 Mar 2022, Nigel Emery <nigele3@ukonline.co.uk> remarked:
>On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:05:52 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>As far as I know all the ones for parachuting-in parcel traffic to
>>Euston were publicity stunts. Meanwhile there are 15 of these still in
>>service, allegedly:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_325>
>
>Why allegedly?

Because it's Wikipedia, and we've had our fingers singed (if not burnt)
as recently as a few days ago, not taking it with a big enough pinch of
salt. (The topic then was scrapped Mk4 carriages, where their numbers
were out by more than an order of magnitude).
--
Roland Perry

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