I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
for other channels.
Info on channels from sat box:-
Bloomberg HD 11686V 23000
GBNews HD 11307V 27500
BBC News 10818V 22000

In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
63% [1]

Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%.
Checking GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no
signal, there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength
99%.

Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?

[1] Over the past 9 years this is the second ROSS box I have had and
fourth LNB. Both ROSS boxes have never shown quality above 65% for
any channel no matter how much time and effort is put into dish
alignment. The dish has a clear view of the Astra / Eurobird satellite
group.

--
brightside S9

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100
BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>for other channels.
>Info on channels from sat box:-
>Bloomberg HD 11686V 23000
>GBNews HD 11307V 27500
>BBC News 10818V 22000
>
>In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>63% [1]
>
>Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%.
>Checking GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no
>signal, there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength
>99%.
>
>Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?

This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a french
radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on today which might
be knocking out other signals.

On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100
> BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>> for other channels.
>> Info on channels from sat box:-
>> Bloomberg HD 11686V 23000
>> GBNews HD 11307V 27500
>> BBC News 10818V 22000
>>
>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>> 63% [1]
>>
>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%.
>> Checking GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no
>> signal, there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength
>> 99%.
>>
>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>
> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a french
> radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on today which might
> be knocking out other signals.
>
>
Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
bird!

In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
> > <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
> >> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
> >> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
> >> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
> >>
> >> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
> >> 63% [1]
> >>
> >> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
> >> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
> >> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
> >> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
> >> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
> >>
> >> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
> >
> > This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
> > french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
> > today which might be knocking out other signals.
> >
> >
> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
> bird!

FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being involved

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 13:16:22 UTC+1, BrightsideS9 wrote:
> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
> for other channels.
> Info on channels from sat box:-
> Bloomberg HD 11686V 23000
> GBNews HD 11307V 27500
> BBC News 10818V 22000
>
> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
> 63% [1]
>
> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%.
> Checking GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no
> signal, there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength
> 99%.
>
> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>
> [1] Over the past 9 years this is the second ROSS box I have had and
> fourth LNB. Both ROSS boxes have never shown quality above 65% for
> any channel no matter how much time and effort is put into dish
> alignment. The dish has a clear view of the Astra / Eurobird satellite
> group.
>
> --
> brightside S9

Could be uplink. It has been raining a lot so water in your LNB / cable. Alignment, satellite drift (there are several and they all need to be kept in position). Lots of possibilities, but if only one channel is affected, then it is probably not your end. Try transponders on similar frequency and same polarity.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 16:23:56 +0100
Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100
>> BrightsideS9 <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>>> for other channels.
>>> Info on channels from sat box:-
>>> Bloomberg HD 11686V 23000
>>> GBNews HD 11307V 27500
>>> BBC News 10818V 22000
>>>
>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>>> 63% [1]
>>>
>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%.
>>> Checking GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no
>>> signal, there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength
>>> 99%.
>>>
>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>>
>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a french
>> radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on today which might
>
>> be knocking out other signals.
>>
>>
>Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>bird!

I was refering to atmospheric conditions, not france specifically *sigh*

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>wrote:
>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>> > <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>> >> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>> >> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
>> >> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
>> >>
>> >> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>> >> 63% [1]
>> >>
>> >> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>> >> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>> >> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
>> >> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
>> >> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>> >
>> > This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>> > french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>> > today which might be knocking out other signals.
>> >
>> >
>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>> bird!
>
>FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being involved

The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this a
group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?

<mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>>>>> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
>>>>> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
>>>>>
>>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>>>>> 63% [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
>>>>> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
>>>>> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>>>>
>>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>>> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>>> bird!
>>
>> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being involved
>
> The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this a
> group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
>
>
>

Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.

In article <sfo998$fu8$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
wrote:
> <mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100 charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody
> >> <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
> >>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
> >>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is
> >>>>> used for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg
> >>>>> HD 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V
> >>>>> 22000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59%
> >>>>> to 63% [1]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
> >>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
> >>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking
> >>>>> GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal,
> >>>>> there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
> >>>>
> >>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
> >>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
> >>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not
> >>> least because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of
> >>> any Astra 2 bird!
> >>
> >> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being
> >> involved
> >
> > The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this
> > a group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
> >
> >
> >

> Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.

Satellites don't use Band II.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:04:40 -0000 (UTC)
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
><mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100
>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>>>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>>>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>>>>>> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
>>>>>> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>>>>>> 63% [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>>>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>>>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
>>>>>> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
>>>>>> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>>>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>>>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>>>> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>>>> bird!
>>>
>>> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being involved
>
>>
>> The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this a
>> group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
>>
>>
>>
>
>Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.

If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 14:22:43 +0100
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>In article <sfo998$fu8$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> <mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100 charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody
>> >> <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>> >>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>> >>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is
>> >>>>> used for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg
>> >>>>> HD 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V
>> >>>>> 22000
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59%
>> >>>>> to 63% [1]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>> >>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>> >>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking
>> >>>>> GB News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal,
>> >>>>> there is no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>> >>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>> >>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not
>> >>> least because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of
>> >>> any Astra 2 bird!
>> >>
>> >> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being
>> >> involved
>> >
>> > The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this
>> > a group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>> Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.
>
>Satellites don't use Band II.

Yes, we're so lucky that the atmosphere only affects Band 2. Oh wait...

In message <sfogjo$opm$1@gioia.aioe.org>, mickspud@downthefarm.com
writes
>On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:04:40 -0000 (UTC)
>Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>><mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100
>>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>>>>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>>>>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>>>>>>> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
>>>>>>> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>>>>>>> 63% [1]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>>>>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>>>>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
>>>>>>> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
>>>>>>> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>>>>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>>>>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>>>>> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>>>>> bird!
>>>>
>>>> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being
>>>>involved
>>
>>>
>>> The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this a
>>> group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.
>
>If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>
100% coincidence. The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB
is 11GHz - and the factors that affect propagation are totally
different. So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
--
Ian

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 16:34:17 +0100
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <sfogjo$opm$1@gioia.aioe.org>, mickspud@downthefarm.com
>writes
>>On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 13:04:40 -0000 (UTC)
>>Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>><mickspud@downthefarm.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:20:37 +0100
>>>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In article <sflt2d$789$2@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu 19/08/2021 14:49, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:16:19 +0100 BrightsideS9
>>>>>>> <reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have Ross sat receiver HDR-6110USB. It is only used regularly to
>>>>>>>> receive Bloonberg HD and GBNews H And BBC News. Irregularly it is used
>>>>>>>> for other channels. Info on channels from sat box:- Bloomberg HD
>>>>>>>> 11686V 23000 GBNews HD 11307V 27500 BBC News 10818V 22000
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In good weather signal strength is 99% and quality is usually 59% to
>>>>>>>> 63% [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Today, dull and overcast and raining lightly locally (according to
>>>>>>>> weather forecast) Bloomberg HD breaks up / no signal message with
>>>>>>>> quality varying from 0 to 61% but strength still at 99%. Checking GB
>>>>>>>> News and BBC News whilst Bloomberg breaking up / no signal, there is
>>>>>>>> no picture break up, signal quality 61% and strength 99%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone any ideas why only the Bloomberg reception is troublesome?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This morning I was getting interference here in london on FM from a
>>>>>>> french radio station so there could well be a bit of skip going on
>>>>>>> today which might be knocking out other signals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't somehow think France will have anything to do with it, not least
>>>>>> because they use Astra 19.2E which is way out of the path of any Astra 2
>>>>>> bird!
>>>>>
>>>>> FM is often used as another name for Band II. Can't see Astra being
>>>>>involved
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ionosphere can have all sorts of effects on radio signals. Is this a
>>>> group of Aspies, does everything have to be explicitly spelt out?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.
>>
>>If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>
>100% coincidence. The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB
>is 11GHz - and the factors that affect propagation are totally
>different. So stop your trolling, and bugger off!

https://www.aeronomie.be/en/encyclopedia/ionosphere-influence-satellite-communic
ation-gps
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog862/node/1715
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2016cosp...41E.537E/abstract

Now do everyone a favour and go quietly fuck yourself you pig ignorant halfwit.

On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>> Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.
> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>

No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
well understood, well documented fact.

So stop being silly.

Bill

williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
> On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>> Not on the frequencies involved with direct satellite broadcast.
>> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>
>
> No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
> well understood, well documented fact.
>
> So stop being silly.
>
> Bill
>

Yep.
https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/p/R-REC-P.618-8-200304-S!!PDF-E.pdf

See Table 1 page 4.

On 21/08/2021 18:52, Tweed wrote:
>
> williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>
>>> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>>
>>
>> No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
>> well understood, well documented fact.
>>
>> So stop being silly.
>
> Yep.
> https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/p/R-REC-P.618-8-200304-S!!PDF-E.pdf
>
> See Table 1 page 4.

Particularly ...

On 20/08/2021 16:34, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
>> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
>> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!

.... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...

"** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."

Obviously this is the same troll who has variously signed himself here
as MrSpook*, MrSpud*, and others that suggest a fixation with potatoes,
perhaps because that's all he has for a brain. Anyway his continuous
changing of his nym shows that among his many character flaws such as
selfishness, arrogance, and ignorance, narcissism is another, he just
can't bear to be ignored, so everyone must keep updating their killfiles.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 19:17:48 +0100
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>On 21/08/2021 18:52, Tweed wrote:
>>
>> williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
>>> well understood, well documented fact.
>>>
>>> So stop being silly.
>>
>> Yep.
>> https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/p/R-REC-P.618-8-200304-S!!PDF-E.pdf
>>
>> See Table 1 page 4.
>
>Particularly ...
>
>On 20/08/2021 16:34, Ian Jackson wrote:
> >>
> >> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
> >> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
> >> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
>
>.... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...
>
>"** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."

Negligable != None.

>Obviously this is the same troll who has variously signed himself here
>as MrSpook*, MrSpud*, and others that suggest a fixation with potatoes,
>perhaps because that's all he has for a brain. Anyway his continuous
>changing of his nym shows that among his many character flaws such as
>selfishness, arrogance, and ignorance, narcissism is another, he just
>can't bear to be ignored, so everyone must keep updating their killfiles.

Oh dear, poor little poppet, still sore from losing all those arguments?
You sound like a whiny school child who can't admit he got beaten at something
and has to tell anyone within earshot about how its so so unfair and his
opponent chated, was an idiot etc etc :)

<javajerk@knobends-r-us.city.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 19:17:48 +0100
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/08/2021 18:52, Tweed wrote:
>>>
>>> williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
>>>> well understood, well documented fact.
>>>>
>>>> So stop being silly.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>> https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/p/R-REC-P.618-8-200304-S!!PDF-E.pdf
>>>
>>> See Table 1 page 4.
>>
>> Particularly ...
>>
>> On 20/08/2021 16:34, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
>>>> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
>>>> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
>>
>> .... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...
>>
>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
>
> Negligable != None.
>
Effectively none as far as the reception of direct broadcast satellite TV
is concerned.

On 22/08/2021 10:06, javajerk@knobends-r-us.city.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 19:17:48 +0100
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 21/08/2021 18:52, Tweed wrote:
>>>
>>> williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 20/08/2021 16:09, mickspud@downthefarm.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you say so. Bit of a coincidence though don't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No it isn't just because he says so. It's an enormously well researched,
>>>> well understood, well documented fact.
>>>>
>>>> So stop being silly.
>>>
>>> Yep.
>>> https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/p/R-REC-P.618-8-200304-S!!PDF-E.pdf
>>>
>>> See Table 1 page 4.
>>
>> Particularly ...
>>
>> On 20/08/2021 16:34, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
>>>> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
>>>> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
>>
>> .... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...
>>
>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
>
> Negligable != None.

Negligible. In working practice it means none.

>> Obviously this is the same troll who has variously signed himself here
>> as MrSpook*, MrSpud*, and others that suggest a fixation with potatoes,
>> perhaps because that's all he has for a brain. Anyway his continuous
>> changing of his nym shows that among his many character flaws such as
>> selfishness, arrogance, and ignorance, narcissism is another, he just
>> can't bear to be ignored, so everyone must keep updating their killfiles.
>
> Oh dear, poor little poppet, still sore from losing all those arguments?

No-one here, including myself, has ever lost an argument with you,
because you are a brainless narcissistic troll, whereas I and most of
the other posters here know a thing or two.

> You sound like a whiny school child who can't admit he got beaten at something
> and has to tell anyone within earshot about how its so so unfair and his
> opponent chated, was an idiot etc etc :)

You sound like a fart the far end of a field.

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On 22/08/2021 12:20, Tweed wrote:

>>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
>>
>> Negligable != None.
>>
> Effectively none as far as the reception of direct broadcast satellite TV
> is concerned.
>
>
In 30 years of satellite TV installation I have never had Luxy on 208 or
Radio Moscow fading in and out over Sky News. So on that basis I don't
think it happens.

Bill

On Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 15:05:06 UTC+1, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
> On 22/08/2021 12:20, Tweed wrote:
>
> >>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
> >>
> >> Negligable != None.
> >>
> > Effectively none as far as the reception of direct broadcast satellite TV
> > is concerned.
> >
> >
> In 30 years of satellite TV installation I have never had Luxy on 208 or
> Radio Moscow fading in and out over Sky News. So on that basis I don't
> think it happens.
>
> Bill

Since Radio Luxembourg on 208m medium wave closed down in 1991, this is hardly surprising, the reflected wave of a planet 15ly away would be very difficult to recieve!

It was on satellite though and now on the internet.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:50:28 +0100
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>On 22/08/2021 10:06, javajerk@knobends-r-us.city.uk wrote:
>>>>> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
>>>>> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
>>>>> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
>>>
>>> .... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...
>>>
>>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
>>
>> Negligable != None.
>
>Negligible. In working practice it means none.

No, it doesn't. I suggest you use your favourite source of knowledge - google-
and do some research.

>>> Obviously this is the same troll who has variously signed himself here
>>> as MrSpook*, MrSpud*, and others that suggest a fixation with potatoes,
>>> perhaps because that's all he has for a brain. Anyway his continuous
>>> changing of his nym shows that among his many character flaws such as
>>> selfishness, arrogance, and ignorance, narcissism is another, he just
>>> can't bear to be ignored, so everyone must keep updating their killfiles.
>>
>> Oh dear, poor little poppet, still sore from losing all those arguments?
>
>No-one here, including myself, has ever lost an argument with you,

Well I guess you lose you have to play in the first place. You never get off
first base.

>because you are a brainless narcissistic troll, whereas I and most of
>the other posters here know a thing or two.
>
>> You sound like a whiny school child who can't admit he got beaten at
>something
>> and has to tell anyone within earshot about how its so so unfair and his
>> opponent chated, was an idiot etc etc :)
>
>You sound like a fart the far end of a field.

Whereas you are like a fart in the face. I know which I prefer.

On 23/08/2021 16:34, donkey.derby@sandybeach.uk wrote:

So, just as I thought when I first spotted it in reply to another post,
this is potato-for-a-brain's latest nym shift.

> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:50:28 +0100
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> On 22/08/2021 10:06, javajerk@knobends-r-us.city.uk wrote:
>>>>>> The broadcast FM band is at 100MHz, and the Astra DSB is 11GHz
>>>>>> and the factors that affect propagation are totally different.
>>>>>> So stop your trolling, and bugger off!
>>>>
>>>> .... while there is a footnote to the table linked above ...
>>>>
>>>> "** Ionospheric effects above 10 GHz are negligible."
>>>
>>> Negligable != None.
>>
>> Negligible. In working practice it means none.
>
> No, it doesn't. I suggest you use your favourite source of knowledge - google-
> and do some research.

Stop trying to avoid losing yet another argument by lying, no-one here
is fooled. See the other posts by people more experienced than either
of us who have worked in the relevant industry for years.

>>>> Obviously this is the same troll who has variously signed himself here
>>>> as MrSpook*, MrSpud*, and others that suggest a fixation with potatoes,
>>>> perhaps because that's all he has for a brain. Anyway his continuous
>>>> changing of his nym shows that among his many character flaws such as
>>>> selfishness, arrogance, and ignorance, narcissism is another, he just
>>>> can't bear to be ignored, so everyone must keep updating their killfiles.
>>>
>>> Oh dear, poor little poppet, still sore from losing all those arguments?
>>
>> No-one here, including myself, has ever lost an argument with you,
>
> Well I guess you lose you have to play in the first place. You never get off
> first base.

There's little point in arguing with a troll who has a potato for a
brain, all you can do is point out the facts so that it knows, if indeed
it ever knowns anything at all, that attempts to lie will be
unceremoniously debunked, and so that others that read the posts later
can see instantly that indeed it is just a time-wasting narcissistic and
idiotic troll.

>> because you are a brainless narcissistic troll, whereas I and most of
>> the other posters here know a thing or two.
>>
>>> You sound like a whiny school child who can't admit he got beaten at
>> something
>>> and has to tell anyone within earshot about how its so so unfair and his
>>> opponent chated, was an idiot etc etc :)
>>
>> You sound like a fart the far end of a field.
>
> Whereas you are like a fart in the face. I know which I prefer.

A fart in the face brings you up short, which is exactly what my replies
to you are partly designed to do.

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:06:14 +0100
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>> No, it doesn't. I suggest you use your favourite source of knowledge -
>google-
>> and do some research.
>
>Stop trying to avoid losing yet another argument by lying, no-one here
>is fooled. See the other posts by people more experienced than either
>of us who have worked in the relevant industry for years.

Facts are facts.

>>> You sound like a fart the far end of a field.
>>
>> Whereas you are like a fart in the face. I know which I prefer.
>
>A fart in the face brings you up short, which is exactly what my replies
>to you are partly designed to do.

Shame thats all you have.

On 24/08/2021 09:03, donkey.derby@sandybeach.uk wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 19:06:14 +0100
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> No, it doesn't. I suggest you use your favourite source of knowledge -
>> google-
>>> and do some research.
>>
>> Stop trying to avoid losing yet another argument by lying, no-one here
>> is fooled. See the other posts by people more experienced than either
>> of us who have worked in the relevant industry for years.
>
> Facts are facts.

And they contradict you.

>>>> You sound like a fart the far end of a field.
>>>
>>> Whereas you are like a fart in the face. I know which I prefer.
>>
>> A fart in the face brings you up short, which is exactly what my replies
>> to you are partly designed to do.
>
> Shame thats all you have.

Seems to be effective enough

--

Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk