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* Re: Freesat querySn!pe
`* Re: Freesat queryThe Natural Philosopher
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Subject: Re: Freesat query
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 by: Sn!pe - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:04 UTC

Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote in uk.d-i-y:

> I know nothing of Freesat. [...]

Neither do I, but I would like to know more.
Is there a good "Idiots Guide To Satellite TV"?
Other than this highly esteemed group, obvs.

[xpost: uk.d-i-y; uk.tech.digital-tv]

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Re: Freesat query

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Subject: Re: Freesat query
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 16:59 UTC

On 14/09/2021 17:04, Sn!pe wrote:
> Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote in uk.d-i-y:
>
>> I know nothing of Freesat. [...]
>
> Neither do I, but I would like to know more.
> Is there a good "Idiots Guide To Satellite TV"?
> Other than this highly esteemed group, obvs.
>
> [xpost: uk.d-i-y; uk.tech.digital-tv]
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-noise_block_downconverter

is a very good explanation.

showing what control voltages are fed to the units to get particular
bands or polarisations.

And that is why you have more than one LNB - its not per se between sky
and freesat, it's between different frequencies and polarisations.

The set top box or PC dongle - or TV - will cycle round all of those to
scan for available channels.

If you have paid for sky, it will also decrypt any channels that match
your key.

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 by: Sn!pe - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:33 UTC

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 14/09/2021 17:04, Sn!pe wrote:
> > Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote in uk.d-i-y:
> >
> >> I know nothing of Freesat. [...]
> >
> > Neither do I, but I would like to know more.
> > Is there a good "Idiots Guide To Satellite TV"?
> > Other than this highly esteemed group, obvs.
> >
> > [xpost: uk.d-i-y; uk.tech.digital-tv]
> >
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-noise_block_downconverter>
>
> is a very good explanation.
>
> showing what control voltages are fed to the units to get particular
> bands or polarisations.
>
> And that is why you have more than one LNB - its not per se between sky
> and freesat, it's between different frequencies and polarisations.
>
> The set top box or PC dongle - or TV - will cycle round all of those to
> scan for available channels.
>
> If you have paid for sky, it will also decrypt any channels that match
> your key.

Thank you.

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 by: Brian Gregory - Fri, 17 Sep 2021 23:59 UTC

On 14/09/2021 17:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> The set top box or PC dongle  - or TV - will cycle round all of those to
> scan for available channels.

For Freesat or Sky you just tune to a certain frequency or polarization
and on there is all the EPG and channel lists for the service. You don't
need to scan all the frequencies in both polarizations.

For Freesat it's 11426 Horizontal.
For Sky it's 11778 Vertical.

If Freesat boxes did scan all the frequencies you'd end up with a lot
more channels than those that are officially part of Freesat, but they
wouldn't have EPG.

In the Sky case there wouldn't be much extra you could get by scanning
all the frequencies in both polarizations, maybe just a few new channels
testing before launch or before changing their frequency and
polarization, or from SD to HD.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

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