On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:03:39 UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> what's the deal with Robinson?

Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.

On 17/06/2023 08:38, mike wrote:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 3:56:52 AM UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 14:38:07 -0700 (PDT), Richard Dixon
>> <richsdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 20:11:24 UTC+1, Mike Holmans wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Stokes' declaration certainly shows that he's backing his team to the hilt
>>>> That's responsible for about half the wins they've notched up. Nobody
>>>> other than Stokes thinks that Jack Leach is a world-class spinner, but
>>>> Leach says that the way Stokes handles him means he almost believes it
>>>> too.
>
> lets hope he can work similar magic on ali then, becos oz were saved by
> lyon yesterday, who prob has never bowled 29 overs on the 1st day outside
> asia.

He also bowled 29 (out of 90) on the first day v India at Sydney in 2018/19.

--
David North

In message <kf894sF64tU2@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>On 18/06/2023 09:01, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <3b9f11da-10c7-4d5c-b513-886b3b9e8cdfn@googlegroups.com>,
>>"wlsut...@gmail.com" <wlsutton54@gmail.com> writes
>> <snip>
>>> I think England need a wicketkeeper and Australia needs an opening bat
>> <snip>
>> All the pundits were saying at the end of day 1 that Bairstow's
>>innings showed that the selectors were right to have picked him over
>>Foakes, because Foakes could never have taken the game away from
>>Australia like that.
>
>That seems to assume that if Foakes had played, Bairstow would have
>been left out.
>

I don't think there was any chance of both of them playing, given that
England seemed committed to playing Crawley.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <2852c5bc-c31c-4198-a575-e3beb7b6d127n@googlegroups.com>,
Richard Dixon <richsdixon1975@gmail.com> writes
>On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 11:38:05 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
>
>> Ali's just put up 2 rank full tosses to Cummins in 2 overs so it does
>>seem like he's feeling some effects
>
>Also with Ali's finger - what's the deal with Robinson? Seemed to be
>upper 70s yesterday (or so I read) - when he came back into the side
>he'd edged into the low 80s. This was interesting from Twitter: "Ollie
>Robinson is wearing a New Balance boot on his right foot and an Adidas
>one on his left foot. Think it's because strapping for his dodgy left
>ankle doesn't fit in his preferred boot"
>
>England creaking at the seams 7 sessions in...! Today has the vibe of
>one of those days of watching the Aus tail wag (for all the chatter of
>it being a long tail).
>
>Richard

It's concerning that of their five main bowlers in this match, only
Broad seems to be fully match-fit. (Counting Stokes as a main bowler but
not Root.)
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 6:46:00 PM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> In message <2852c5bc-c31c-4198...@googlegroups.com>,
> Richard Dixon <richsdi...@gmail.com> writes
> >On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 11:38:05 UTC+1, Hamish Laws wrote:
> >
> >> Ali's just put up 2 rank full tosses to Cummins in 2 overs so it does
> >>seem like he's feeling some effects

not a great comback for Ali; but for those misses he could have had a 5for,
plus the plan to buy a wkt with the field up, even if they did get head in
the end, went on for far too long, and now hes been fined for spraying
his finger blister himself on the field but hes probably not bowled more than
10 overs a day for 2 years. he def got the short straw in luck this match.

> >
> >Also with Ali's finger - what's the deal with Robinson? Seemed to be
> >upper 70s yesterday (or so I read) - when he came back into the side
> >he'd edged into the low 80s. This was interesting from Twitter: "Ollie
> >Robinson is wearing a New Balance boot on his right foot and an Adidas
> >one on his left foot. Think it's because strapping for his dodgy left
> >ankle doesn't fit in his preferred boot"
> >
> >England creaking at the seams 7 sessions in...!

i notice that bairstows still got a lot of strapping on his leg as well, although
that shouldnt affected his hands but after marnus, hes missed the lot.

> >
> >Richard
> It's concerning that of their five main bowlers in this match, only
> Broad seems to be fully match-fit. (Counting Stokes as a main bowler but
> not Root.)

i was thinking if all the pitches are as flat as this one, surely theres little
point in choosing robbo this summer, and then he and anderson took
4 wkts. pity it wasnt yesterday with the new ball. but seeing them
bowling bouncers [and some of robbos were quite slow], i cant help
but think they should have chosen wood or tongue to do that job.

those last 30 mins under lights show why stokes wants flat pitches,
cant do bazball in those conditions. bit like the 1st safy test last year.
hope its finer tomorrow, and lyon has a finger blister too. i cant remember
his name but there was a oz offy who partnered warne, and i remember
he bowled a lot of overs and had this crack or open sore in his hand
for the last 2 tests that series. i think he was quite proud of it.

mike

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 03:29:06 -0700, Hamish Laws wrote:

> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:23:36 AM UTC+10, Richard Dixon wrote:
>> On Saturday, 17 June 2023 at 22:50:46 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:00:08 -0700, mike wrote:
>> >
>> > Well it's been an excellent Test so far for the majority of Oztralia!
>> >
>> > Mythchell finally dropped,
>
> Starc
>
>>>Cap'n Backstab wicketless,
>
> Cummins
>
>>>his mates plastered
>> > all over Brummagen, the Sandpaper Boys failed, and looked horrible
>> > doing so,
>
> Warner & Smith
>
>>> *plus* all the Others (except ScoBo) made significant contributions!
>
> Players not from NSW
>
>> > Fabulous!
>> Has Google Translate from Alvey Nicknames to English been updated for
>> the 2023 Ashes? Might help me understand the above.
>>
>> Most of the English press has been fixated on Broad getting Warner out.

That'e The Scales of Injustice in operation.
*All* of the 'Aust' media is focused on keeping the little grot in...

Speaking of "little grots"... I see another very average Blue has been
stuffed into a suit and been undeservedly given a talking head job on the
box. Steven O'Keefe, a serial knucklehead whose behaviour was *officially*
found to be unacceptable even for a CNSW Presentation night, a feat long
thought impossible, is now polluting my screen.

alvey

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:10:07 -0700, Richard Dixon wrote:

> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:03:39 UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
>> what's the deal with Robinson?
>
> Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.

Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
innings...

alvey

On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:

> > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
> Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
> innings...

There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world cricket. Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you actually _want_ to have a pint with?

The problem for Robinson is despite being a properly decent bowler I would suspect it's quite easy to get under his skin.

Richard

On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:42:39 UTC+1, alvey wrote:

> >> > Mythchell finally dropped,
> > Starc

What's the Myth? That's he any good at bowling?

> >>>Cap'n Backstab wicketless,
> >
> > Cummins

And the backstab story?

Richard

On 18/06/2023 23:33, Richard Dixon wrote:
> [...] Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you actually
> _want_ to have a pint with?

Broad [or Gurney]? There have to be some advantages in knowing
someone who owns a chain of gastropubs.

--
Andy Walker, Nottingham.
Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
Composer of the day: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music/Composers/Schulz-Evler

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:33:29 -0700, Richard Dixon wrote:

> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>
>> > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
>> Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
>> innings...
>
> There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world cricket.
> Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you actually _want_ to
> have a pint with?

Usman Khwaja. I can have his pint too and then he can drive me home.

> The problem for Robinson is despite being a properly decent bowler I
> would suspect it's quite easy to get under his skin.

That'd certainly be easier than playing mind games with him.

alvey

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 13:44:39 -0700, mike wrote:

> those last 30 mins under lights show why stokes wants flat pitches,
> cant do bazball in those conditions. bit like the 1st safy test last
> year.
> hope its finer tomorrow, and lyon has a finger blister too. i cant
> remember his name but there was a oz offy who partnered warne, and i
> remember he bowled a lot of overs and had this crack or open sore in his
> hand for the last 2 tests that series. i think he was quite proud of it.

Tim May?

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 6:44:41 AM UTC+10, mike wrote:
> hope its finer tomorrow, and lyon has a finger blister too. i cant remember
> his name but there was a oz offy who partnered warne, and i remember
> he bowled a lot of overs and had this crack or open sore in his hand
> for the last 2 tests that series. i think he was quite proud of it.
>
Tim May, commentators were discussing it a bit

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 8:33:30 AM UTC+10, Richard Dixon wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>
> > > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
> > Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
> > innings...
> There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world cricket. Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you actually _want_ to have a pint with?
>
> The problem for Robinson is despite being a properly decent bowler I would suspect it's quite easy to get under his skin.
>
> Richard

it only matters if he inserted more colorful language

Rain in England? I thought the forecast was all dry ?

Still I think the Poms deserve to win this Test as they have played like I would Australia to play. England has done all the running and they deserve a victory.

btw: I have English blood going back to the first fleet and of course on the crim side ... what other is there :-) . Actually on all sides I am more pure pommy then Mr Henderson.

On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:35:27 -0700, Richard Dixon wrote:

> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:42:39 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>
>> >> > Mythchell finally dropped,
>> > Starc
>
> What's the Myth? That's he any good at bowling?

The myth is that he's as good as 'our' media keeps telling us. Fact is,
if he hadn't played any of those bowler-friendly pink ball Tests he'd have
an average in the 30s. And that's in the territory of his predecessor as
our Most Over-rated bowler. B. Lee.
>
>> >>>Cap'n Backstab wicketless,
>> >
>> > Cummins
>
> And the backstab story?

He was a ringleader in the gang of NSW spoilt princelings who knifed
Justin Langer. The coach who had just won Oz our first T20 WC and coached
Oz to a 4-0 slaughter of Ingerland. A disgraceful effort which was
universally soft soaped by 'our' media. Bah!

alvey

On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 08:36:45 UTC+1, alvey wrote:

> He was a ringleader in the gang of NSW spoilt princelings who knifed
> Justin Langer. The coach who had just won Oz our first T20 WC and coached
> Oz to a 4-0 slaughter of Ingerland. A disgraceful effort which was
> universally soft soaped by 'our' media. Bah!

He's a nice looking lad though, he couldn't do such a thing!

In message <u6nuod$1ojtl$2@dont-email.me>, alvey
<Paddy.O.Furniture@Coast.org> writes
>On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:10:07 -0700, Richard Dixon wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 12:03:39 UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
>>> what's the deal with Robinson?
>>
>> Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
>
>Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
>innings...
>

Yes, if you arranged the England players in order of likeability, he
would probably come in at number 11.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <f0ae8d0c-2a54-4da5-b056-cf564c7328b6n@googlegroups.com>,
Richard Dixon <richsdixon1975@gmail.com> writes
>On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>
>> > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
>> Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
>> innings...
>
>There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world
>cricket. Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you actually
>_want_ to have a pint with?

Just from the current England team, Root and Moeen immediately come to
mind (with the slight problem that Moeen won't actually be able to drink
his pint). On the Australian side, Cummins and Khawaja come across as
lieable.

>
>The problem for Robinson is despite being a properly decent bowler I
>would suspect it's quite easy to get under his skin.

I'm not sure if it's that or whether he's just naturally a bit of a yob
(to use an old-fashioned word).
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <e30a31ef-3cc9-4ffa-be17-db938ef78788n@googlegroups.com>,
"wlsut...@gmail.com" <wlsutton54@gmail.com> writes
<snip>
>Rain in England? I thought the forecast was all dry ?

Nope. The forecast correctly predicted that the long dry spell would
break down. Today (Monday) is looking OK, but it looks dodgy again for
tomorrow. Hopefully the fear of losing most of tomorrow to rain won't
cause Stokes to declare at 3 pm and set Australia 220 to win, but I
wouldn't put it past him.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <3ijDT3BC4BkkFwfO@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>n message <f0ae8d0c-2a54-4da5-b056-cf564c7328b6n@googlegroups.com>,
>Richard Dixon <richsdixon1975@gmail.com> writes
>>On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>>
>>> > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
>>> Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
>>> innings...
>>
>>There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world
>>cricket. Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you
>>actually _want_ to have a pint with?
>
>Just from the current England team, Root and Moeen immediately come to
>mind (with the slight problem that Moeen won't actually be able to
>drink his pint). On the Australian side, Cummins and Khawaja come
>across as lieable.

Oops. I imagine that Alvey will suggest that that was a Freudian slip in
the case of Cummins.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 10:26:28 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> In message <e30a31ef-3cc9-4ffa...@googlegroups.com>,
> "wlsut...@gmail.com" <wlsut...@gmail.com> writes
> <snip>
> >Rain in England? I thought the forecast was all dry ?
> Nope. The forecast correctly predicted that the long dry spell would
> break down. Today (Monday) is looking OK, but it looks dodgy again for
> tomorrow. Hopefully the fear of losing most of tomorrow to rain won't
> cause Stokes to declare at 3 pm and set Australia 220 to win, but I
> wouldn't put it past him.
> --

theyve got to get there first. while root and brook were in, i was hopeful
but cummins and lyon have brought it right back to oz, although it might
have been all over 1st ball of the day for root who seems addicted to
ramping. i guess he saw so little action in the ipl he wants to make up
for it now.

never have i seen such celebration when bairstows lbw was overturned,
just. still prefer to be in oz position.

mike

On 19/06/2023 10:21, John Hall wrote:
> In message <f0ae8d0c-2a54-4da5-b056-cf564c7328b6n@googlegroups.com>,
> Richard Dixon <richsdixon1975@gmail.com> writes
>> On Sunday, 18 June 2023 at 22:59:43 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>>
>>> > Ah, there he is. Complete with his fruity send-offs.
>>> Yairsss. He appears to be a bit of a knob. I'm looking forward to his
>>> innings...
>>
>> There appear to be an above-average smattering of them in world
>> cricket. Let's face it - which modern day cricketers would you
>> actually _want_ to have a pint with?
>
> Just from the current England team, Root and Moeen immediately come to
> mind (with the slight problem that Moeen won't actually be able to drink
> his pint).  On the Australian side, Cummins and Khawaja come across as
> lieable.
>
>>
>> The problem for Robinson is despite being a properly decent bowler I
>> would suspect it's quite easy to get under his skin.
>
> I'm not sure if it's that or whether he's just naturally a bit of a yob
> (to use an old-fashioned word).

Marnus seems a decent bloke.

In message <OS8NvcC97BkkFw76@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>Hopefully the fear of losing most of tomorrow to rain won't cause
>Stokes to declare at 3 pm and set Australia 220 to win, but I wouldn't
>put it past him.

England were almost exactly 220 runs on at 3 pm, but thankfully Stokes
didn't declare. As I also foresaw Moeen's finger injury, I'm beginning
to feel like Nostradamus. :)
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 20:07:47 +0100, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <OS8NvcC97BkkFw76@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
><john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>Hopefully the fear of losing most of tomorrow to rain won't cause
>>Stokes to declare at 3 pm and set Australia 220 to win, but I wouldn't
>>put it past him.
>
>England were almost exactly 220 runs on at 3 pm, but thankfully Stokes
>didn't declare. As I also foresaw Moeen's finger injury, I'm beginning
>to feel like Nostradamus. :)

Reckon Paddy Power would have odds for that.

max.it

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 01:06:30 -0700, Richard Dixon wrote:

> On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 08:36:45 UTC+1, alvey wrote:
>
>> He was a ringleader in the gang of NSW spoilt princelings who knifed
>> Justin Langer. The coach who had just won Oz our first T20 WC and
>> coached Oz to a 4-0 slaughter of Ingerland. A disgraceful effort which
>> was universally soft soaped by 'our' media. Bah!
>
> He's a nice looking lad though, he couldn't do such a thing!

Yep, he's nearly as good looking as Ted Bundy.

alvey
Who is Not Happy. After D1 I tried to get on Lyon as leading wicket taker
for the series but couldn't find a market.