Is GB News still planning to simultaneously broadcast on DAB radio?

Like TalkRadio, the GB News format is too boring to watch probably better
suited to radio than tv.

Yes it is pretty pointless on tv, many say, mind you its pretty boring for
me as a blind person to listen to as well, but then some news outlets seem
to be over combative about the wrong things, picking up politicians merely
because they have no answer worth giving rather than focussing on the
elephant in the room at the time. Its as if they ignore the issues just want
to score points.
Brian

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"Pamela" <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:XnsADBAC5ACDEC4437B93@144.76.35.252...
> Is GB News still planning to simultaneously broadcast on DAB radio?
>
> Like TalkRadio, the GB News format is too boring to watch probably better
> suited to radio than tv.

On 06/10/2021 08:23, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Yes it is pretty pointless on tv, many say, mind you its pretty boring for
> me as a blind person to listen to as well, but then some news outlets seem
> to be over combative about the wrong things, picking up politicians merely
> because they have no answer worth giving rather than focussing on the
> elephant in the room at the time. Its as if they ignore the issues just want
> to score points.

Its fans on places like Guido's website make lots of very wild claims
about the number of viewers. But everytime that I have looked, they
have been very low.

In article <sjjje5$meb$1@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 08:23, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

> > Yes it is pretty pointless on tv, many say, mind you its pretty
> > boring for me as a blind person to listen to as well, but then
> > some news outlets seem to be over combative about the wrong
> > things, picking up politicians merely because they have no answer
> > worth giving rather than focussing on the elephant in the room at
> > the time. Its as if they ignore the issues just want to score
> > points.

> Its fans on places like Guido's website make lots of very wild
> claims about the number of viewers. But everytime that I have
> looked, they have been very low.

Pure coincidence (yes really) I watched a couple of hours of it last
night. There was a head to head debate between two former BBC stars
Jennie Bond and Esther Ranzen against one person from Defund The BBC.

It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years gone
by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie Bond's
sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and pulling
faces when the were presented with the bias of just brexit. They are
clearly surrounded by people who all think just the same and had no
concept, none at all how they are part of the one view allowed media
and BBC in particular. Of course they couldn't see bias, there's only
one truth and the BBC have it.

It's not only Brexit of course, the BBC has one view on everything
and expands everything in the news that support that view and
diminishes or even doesn't report everything that doesn't.

Anyway, at least there was an attempt to show both sides, not like
the BBC.

In the same program there was an interview with Patsy Kensit, I
enjoyed that. :-) Also Nigel Farage, a slightly odd character but who
for me is the most down to earth realistic political animal of the
lot, always hits the nail smack on the head.

I admit I don't watch GBNews as much as perhaps I should. The reason
I don't is that I find all news now to be so depressing as I watch
mass stupidity remove us from reason and logic in order to pursue
solutions to problems that don't exist and force us down a rabbit
hole of ideological nonsense.

Bob.

On 06/10/2021 09:18, Bob Latham wrote:
>
> In article <sjjje5$meb$1@dont-email.me>,
> MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> Its fans on places like Guido's website make lots of very wild
>> claims about the number of viewers. But everytime that I have
>> looked, they have been very low.
>
> Pure coincidence (yes really) I watched a couple of hours of it last
> night. There was a head to head debate between two former BBC stars
> Jennie Bond and Esther Ranzen against one person from Defund The BBC.
>
> It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years gone
> by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie Bond's
> sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and pulling
> faces when the were presented with the bias of just brexit.

Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?

> They are
> clearly surrounded by people who all think just the same and had no
> concept, none at all how they are part of the one view allowed media
> and BBC in particular. Of course they couldn't see bias, there's only
> one truth and the BBC have it.
>
> It's not only Brexit of course, the BBC has one view on everything
> and expands everything in the news that support that view and
> diminishes or even doesn't report everything that doesn't.

Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?

> Anyway, at least there was an attempt to show both sides, not like
> the BBC.

Did they mention the food and petrol distribution problems?

> In the same program there was an interview with Patsy Kensit, I
> enjoyed that. :-) Also Nigel Farage, a slightly odd character but who
> for me is the most down to earth realistic political animal of the
> lot, always hits the nail smack on the head.
>
> I admit I don't watch GBNews as much as perhaps I should. The reason
> I don't is that I find all news now to be so depressing as I watch
> mass stupidity remove us from reason and logic in order to pursue
> solutions to problems that don't exist and force us down a rabbit
> hole of ideological nonsense.

The entirety of the above sounds like a very good reason not to watch GB
News as well.

For myself, I'm looking forward to the day when I can order decent
coffee and frozen veg from Tesco's again, and so avoid having to
contribute unnecessarily to global warming by driving out to search for
basic foodstuffs.

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On 06/10/2021 in message <sjk4qd$t7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive wrote:

>>It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years gone
>>by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie Bond's
>>sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and pulling
>>faces when the were presented with the bias of just brexit.
>
>Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?

What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution problems
are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up with our own solutions.

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(President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the
telephone)

On 08:33 6 Oct 2021, MB said:
> On 06/10/2021 08:23, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes it is pretty pointless on tv, many say, mind you its pretty
>> boring for me as a blind person to listen to as well, but then some
>> news outlets seem to be over combative about the wrong things,
>> picking up politicians merely because they have no answer worth
>> giving rather than focussing on the elephant in the room at the
>> time. Its as if they ignore the issues just want to score points.
>
> Its fans on places like Guido's website make lots of very wild
> claims about the number of viewers. But everytime that I have
> looked, they have been very low.

Perhaps GB News should follow what Times Radio does and repeat certain
programmesm, which I think it does quite successfully. Not out of
cheapness but to let popular material reach a larger audience.

It wouldn't work for stations like LBC where there are few programmes
whose content is newsworthy. Nick Ferrari's morning show is one but the
rest of th eprogrammes are essentially just chat shows nice for passing
the time but saying nothing ground breaking.

On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjk4qd$t7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive wrote:
>
>>> It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years gone
>>> by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie Bond's
>>> sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and pulling
>>> faces when the were presented with the bias of just brexit.
>>
>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>
> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729

"The government is introducing temporary visas for 5,000 fuel tanker and
food lorry drivers to work in the UK in the run-up to Christmas.

It has faced calls to do so for several weeks, amid growing concerns
about deliveries of food and fuel.

The government has resisted those calls until now, with Transport
Secretary Grant Shapps previously saying: "We do have to stand on our
own two feet as the United Kingdom".

The shortage of HGV drivers is due to a combination of Covid,
***Brexit*** and other factors.

[...]

The Annual Population Survey produced by the Office for National
Statistics (ONS) estimates that there were 16,000 fewer EU nationals
working as HGV drivers in the year ending March 2021, than in the
previous year.

[...]

What about Brexit?

There are HGV driver shortages across Europe, but in the UK Brexit has
made things worse.

Many European drivers who went back to their home countries, or decided
to work elsewhere, are unable to return.

When the UK was part of the EU single market, they used to be able to
come and go as they pleased.

But new immigration rules mean that is no longer the case.

There is also new bureaucracy, and the decline in the value of the pound
against the euro since the Brexit vote has made working in the UK less
attractive for EU nationals.

The strain on the freight transport system comes before Britain imposes
checks on goods coming in from the EU. They have now been delayed until
next year - some in January, others in July.

If they prove too intrusive, that could make it even more difficult to
encourage European drivers to work in this country. Many drivers are
paid by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays cost
them money."

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On 14:34 6 Oct 2021, Jeff Gaines said:

> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjk4qd$t7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive
> wrote:
>
>>>It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years gone
>>>by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie Bond's
>>>sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and pulling
>>>faces when the were presented with the bias of just brexit.
>>
>>Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>
> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up with
> our own solutions.

Our petrol, food and vaccine distribution problems are not Europe
wide. They seem to be entirely a result of British exceptionalism.

Never mind, Boris says he's going to force industry to significantly
raise the wages of all low paid workers and that will, er, at a stroke
revive the entire economy. Or something like that. The exact logic
eludes me. As does the timing.

I suspect this plan will turns out to be as broken as all Boris's
promises but at least it makes a good soundbite at the time.

In article <XnsADBB9E6E13B8037B93@144.76.35.252>,
Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14:34 6 Oct 2021, Jeff Gaines said:

> > On 06/10/2021 in message <sjk4qd$t7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years
> >>>gone by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie
> >>>Bond's sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and
> >>>pulling faces when the were presented with the bias of just
> >>>brexit.
> >>
> >>Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
> >
> > What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
> > problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up
> > with our own solutions.

> Our petrol, food and vaccine distribution problems are not Europe
> wide.

No it's wider than that. Reports from the USA of empty shelves in
supermarkets and in Europe. Of course you will not see that reported
by BBC, doesn't support their position.

> They seem to be entirely a result of British exceptionalism.

I don't agree with that.

> Never mind, Boris says he's going to force industry to
> significantly raise the wages of all low paid workers and that
> will, er, at a stroke revive the entire economy. Or something
> like that. The exact logic eludes me. As does the timing.

> I suspect this plan will turns out to be as broken as all Boris's
> promises but at least it makes a good soundbite at the time.

I do agree with that. Boris is like like Priti Patel, talks big
delivers nothing. I voted Tory and got a socialist PM. I have
considered how much worse comrade Corbyn could possibly have been. :-)

Bob.

In article <XnsADBB9D0AD6F1437B93@144.76.35.252>,
Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps GB News should follow what Times Radio does and repeat
> certain programmesm, which I think it does quite successfully.
> Not out of cheapness but to let popular material reach a larger
> audience.

Don't know if it still is but Friday evening seemed to be repeats
just a week or two back.

Bob.

On 06/10/2021 15:45, Bob Latham wrote:
> In article <XnsADBB9E6E13B8037B93@144.76.35.252>,
> Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14:34 6 Oct 2021, Jeff Gaines said:
>
>>> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjk4qd$t7r$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It was hard to watch for me. The two ex BBC stars who in years
>>>>> gone by would have been fine in my eyes (except for Jennie
>>>>> Bond's sycophantic view of the royals) were looking skyward and
>>>>> pulling faces when the were presented with the bias of just
>>>>> brexit.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>>>
>>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
>>> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up
>>> with our own solutions.
>
>> Our petrol, food and vaccine distribution problems are not Europe
>> wide.
>
> No it's wider than that. Reports from the USA of empty shelves in
> supermarkets and in Europe. Of course you will not see that reported
> by BBC, doesn't support their position.

LIE! See the link in my reply to Jeff, although I quoted mainly the
Brexshit factors, they original article covers a range factors involved,
not just Brexshit.

>> They seem to be entirely a result of British exceptionalism.
>
> I don't agree with that.

You wouldn't, but read the article linked.

>> Never mind, Boris says he's going to force industry to
>> significantly raise the wages of all low paid workers and that
>> will, er, at a stroke revive the entire economy. Or something
>> like that. The exact logic eludes me. As does the timing.
>>
>> I suspect this plan will turns out to be as broken as all Boris's
>> promises but at least it makes a good soundbite at the time.
>
> I do agree with that. Boris is like like Priti Patel, talks big
> delivers nothing. I voted Tory and got a socialist PM. I have
> considered how much worse comrade Corbyn could possibly have been. :-)

I think it was Abraham Lincoln who said "You can fool some of the people
all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't
fool all the people all the time!", or was that merely Bob Newhart's
wisecrackery about him? BTAIM, it seems that BlowJob thinks he can hold
on to power through endless broken promises and lies.

I'm still waiting for our Brexshit windfall, our 'world-beating' test
and trace system to even begin to work, etc, etc. :-(

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On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkc1k$iat$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive wrote:

>On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>What on earth does that have to do with Brexit?
>
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729
>
>"The government is introducing temporary visas for 5,000 fuel tanker and
>food lorry drivers to work in the UK in the run-up to Christmas.

Sensible, there is a shortage and we are free to do it.

>It has faced calls to do so for several weeks, amid growing concerns about
>deliveries of food and fuel.

And has now done it.

>The government has resisted those calls until now, with Transport
>Secretary Grant Shapps previously saying: "We do have to stand on our own
>two feet as the United Kingdom".

Absolutely, we have around a million vacancies for our own people, they
need to train and get working. Stopping social security benefits would
also be a good idea.

>The shortage of HGV drivers is due to a combination of Covid, Brexit and
>other factors.

Why has Brexit affected the situation? We have people looking for jobs,
they need to train to drive lorries/whatever/

>The Annual Population Survey produced by the Office for National
>Statistics (ONS) estimates that there were 16,000 fewer EU nationals
>working as HGV drivers in the year ending March 2021, than in the previous
>year.

Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
the EU.

>What about Brexit?
>
>There are HGV driver shortages across Europe, but in the UK Brexit has
>made things worse.
>
>Many European drivers who went back to their home countries, or decided to
>work elsewhere, are unable to return.
>
>When the UK was part of the EU single market, they used to be able to come
>and go as they pleased.
>
>But new immigration rules mean that is no longer the case.

Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
the EU.

>There is also new bureaucracy, and the decline in the value of the pound
>against the euro since the Brexit vote has made working in the UK less
>attractive for EU nationals.

Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
the EU.

>The strain on the freight transport system comes before Britain imposes
>checks on goods coming in from the EU. They have now been delayed until
>next year - some in January, others in July.
>
>If they prove too intrusive, that could make it even more difficult to
>encourage European drivers to work in this country. Many drivers are paid
>by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays cost them
>money."

Why do we want to encourage them, we want the jobs ourselves?

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The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

On 06/10/2021 16:10, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkc1k$iat$1@gioia.aioe.org> Java Jive wrote:
>
>> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit?
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729
>>
>> "The government is introducing temporary visas for 5,000 fuel tanker
>> and food lorry drivers to work in the UK in the run-up to Christmas.
>
> Sensible, there is a shortage and we are free to do it.
>
>> It has faced calls to do so for several weeks, amid growing concerns
>> about deliveries of food and fuel.
>
> And has now done it.
>
>> The government has resisted those calls until now, with Transport
>> Secretary Grant Shapps previously saying: "We do have to stand on our
>> own two feet as the United Kingdom".
>
> Absolutely, we have around a million vacancies for our own people, they
> need to train and get working. Stopping social security benefits would
> also be a good idea.

There's the question of how many people on SS would actually make good
lorry drivers, and the time taken to train those that are suitable:

https://www.hgvtrainingcentre.co.uk/become-hgv-driver/

"Be competent in English and Maths
Be over 18
Hold a full car license
Have good eyesight
Pass a medical examination
Possess a driver CPC qualification"

>> The shortage of HGV drivers is due to a combination of Covid, Brexit
>> and other factors.
>
> Why has Brexit affected the situation? We have people looking for jobs,
> they need to train to drive lorries/whatever/

Read the full article, and see above and below ...

>> The Annual Population Survey produced by the Office for National
>> Statistics (ONS) estimates that there were 16,000 fewer EU nationals
>> working as HGV drivers in the year ending March 2021, than in the
>> previous year.
>
> Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
> the EU.

So why aren't they doing them? Read the full article.

>> What about Brexit?
>>
>> There are HGV driver shortages across Europe, but in the UK Brexit has
>> made things worse.
>>
>> Many European drivers who went back to their home countries, or
>> decided to work elsewhere, are unable to return.
>>
>> When the UK was part of the EU single market, they used to be able to
>> come and go as they pleased.
>>
>> But new immigration rules mean that is no longer the case.
>
> Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
> the EU.

So why aren't they doing them? Read the full article.

>> There is also new bureaucracy, and the decline in the value of the
>> pound against the euro since the Brexit vote has made working in the
>> UK less attractive for EU nationals.
>
> Excellent, more jobs for UK nationals, that's one of the reasons we left
> the EU.

So why aren't they doing them? Read the full article.

>> The strain on the freight transport system comes before Britain
>> imposes checks on goods coming in from the EU. They have now been
>> delayed until next year - some in January, others in July.
>>
>> If they prove too intrusive, that could make it even more difficult to
>> encourage European drivers to work in this country. Many drivers are
>> paid by the mile or kilometre rather than by the hour, so delays cost
>> them money."
>
> Why do we want to encourage them, we want the jobs ourselves?

In the long run, perhaps yes, but you can't get from A to B without
going along the road between them. If you're sensible, you don't sling
out perfectly good personnel before you've trained their replacements,
but that's exactly what the UK has done.

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On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution problems
> are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit

What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in their
right mind would want to go near there.

On 06/10/2021 15:45, Bob Latham wrote:
> No it's wider than that. Reports from the USA of empty shelves in
> supermarkets and in Europe. Of course you will not see that reported
> by BBC, doesn't support their position.

As in this from a few weeks ago.

I hate to link to a tabloid like this but it was sent me by a friend.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/22/cargo-ships-traffic-jam-los-angeles-california

"The bottleneck this week at America’s busiest port complex is the
result of a shortage of trucks and drivers to pick up goods, coupled
with an overwhelming demand for imported consumer products."

MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 15:45, Bob Latham wrote:
>> No it's wider than that. Reports from the USA of empty shelves in
>> supermarkets and in Europe. Of course you will not see that reported
>> by BBC, doesn't support their position.
>
> As in this from a few weeks ago.
>
> I hate to link to a tabloid like this but it was sent me by a friend.
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/22/cargo-ships-traffic-jam-los-angeles-california
>
>
> "The bottleneck this week at America’s busiest port complex is the
> result of a shortage of trucks and drivers to pick up goods, coupled
> with an overwhelming demand for imported consumer products."
>
>

Or https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58643717

Some 65 cargo ships have been forced to queue outside two of America's
biggest ports, in the latest sign of supply chain disruption hitting the
US.
The ships are stuck outside the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach,
California, which handle 40% of all cargo containers entering the country.
Before Covid, it was unusual for more than one to wait for a berth.
The backlog is linked to surging demand for imports as the US economy has
reopened.
Retailers and manufacturers have rushed to place orders and restock their
inventories, but the global shipping system is struggling to keep up.
It's contributed to shortages of children's toys, timber, new clothes and
pet food, while also pushing up consumer prices.
Gene Seroka, head of the Port of LA, last week warned that a "significant
volume" of cargo was "headed our way throughout this year and into 2022".
"We continue to monitor a host of variables; disruptions continue at every
node in the supply chain," he said.

Not reported by the BBC?

On 06/10/2021 17:00, MB wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 15:45, Bob Latham wrote:
>> No it's wider than that. Reports from the USA of empty shelves in
>> supermarkets and in Europe. Of course you will not see that reported
>> by BBC, doesn't support their position.
>
> As in this from a few weeks ago.
>
> I hate to link to a tabloid like this but it was sent me by a friend.
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/22/cargo-ships-traffic-jam-los-angeles-california
>
> "The bottleneck this week at America’s busiest port complex is the
> result of a shortage of trucks and drivers to pick up goods, coupled
> with an overwhelming demand for imported consumer products."

[...]

"With the peak shipping period getting under way as the holiday shopping
season approaches, in recent weeks the ports have been setting new
records for ships in port almost daily. Traffic has been rising since
last summer amid a pandemic-induced buying boom that created a backlog
at both ports and overwhelmed the workforce, some of whom were
themselves recovering from Covid.

The pandemic has battered the global supply chain, offloading the
surging demand on to suppliers and leading to shortages of goods and
containers and increasing costs for consumers."

I'm not sure that I can buy this. Certainly the pandemic has
*disrupted* the global supply chain, there can be no possible doubt
about that, but I fail to see how it can have increased the demand for
goods overall. Unusual numbers of people have died across the world,
how can fewer people wanting stuff increase demand? The economies of
most countries have been significantly hit, how can more people being
less well off increase demand? Global production may have dropped due
to staff being ill with covid, but that's a reduction in supply, not an
increase in demand. Christmas is approaching, but so it does every
year. Lorry drivers move about, so are more likely to become infected,
and perhaps lead rather too sedentary a life behind the wheel for their
own health, so might be more vulnerable to getting it badly, but I've
yet to see any actual statistics that they have died or been
incapacitated by long-covid in disproportionate numbers.

So disruption certainly, but increased demand overall can at worst only
be a very temporary thing as people try to make up for leading more
restricted lives for a year - I'm surprised to see it at all, and
can't see it being sustained.

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In article <sjkgr9$qq2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> >> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
> > What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
> > problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit

> What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in their
> right mind would want to go near there.

however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.

--
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On 06/10/2021 17:34, charles wrote:
> In article <sjkgr9$qq2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
>>> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit
>
>> What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in their
>> right mind would want to go near there.
>
> however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.

And earlier in the crisis it was more widespread elsewhere.

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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <sjkgr9$qq2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
>>> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit
>
>> What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in their
>> right mind would want to go near there.
>
> however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.
>

Which might magnify the effects of panic buying.

Actually, panic buying is unfair. Apart from some extreme examples, most
people have acted extremely rationally. If a politician says don’t panic
buy you know most people will do that, so the only response to protect your
interests is to attempt to fill up. I suppose it wasn’t helped by being
near the end of the month. I suspect a lot of people were running their
tanks down, waiting for pay day.

In article <sjkk59$k90$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
wrote:
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > In article <sjkgr9$qq2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> >> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> >>>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
> >>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
> >>> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit
> >
> >> What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in
> >> their right mind would want to go near there.
> >
> > however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.
> >

> Which might magnify the effects of panic buying.

> Actually, panic buying is unfair. Apart from some extreme examples, most
> people have acted extremely rationally. If a politician says don‘t panic
> buy you know most people will do that, so the only response to protect
> your interests is to attempt to fill up. I suppose it wasn‘t helped by
> being near the end of the month. I suspect a lot of people were running
> their tanks down, waiting for pay day.

in these days of credit cards, is "pay day" significant? Anyway I used tto
get my salary in the middle of the month, half in arrears and half in
advance.

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charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> In article <sjkk59$k90$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>> In article <sjkgr9$qq2$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>> On 06/10/2021 14:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>>>> Enjoying the food and petrol distribution problems, are you?
>>>>> What on earth does that have to do with Brexit? The distribution
>>>>> problems are at least Europe wide, we are free now to come up wit
>>>
>>>> What petrol problems, seems to be only around London and no one in
>>>> their right mind would want to go near there.
>>>
>>> however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.
>>>
>
>> Which might magnify the effects of panic buying.
>
>> Actually, panic buying is unfair. Apart from some extreme examples, most
>> people have acted extremely rationally. If a politician says don‘t panic
>> buy you know most people will do that, so the only response to protect
>> your interests is to attempt to fill up. I suppose it wasn‘t helped by
>> being near the end of the month. I suspect a lot of people were running
>> their tanks down, waiting for pay day.
>
> in these days of credit cards, is "pay day" significant? Anyway I used tto
> get my salary in the middle of the month, half in arrears and half in
> advance.
>

It’s very noticeable in my local small town centre. Much busier on weekends
at the start of the month.

On 06/10/2021 17:20, Tweed wrote:
> Not reported by the BBC?

You can usually be sure that when someone claims "not reported by the
BBC" ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58643717

On 06/10/2021 17:34, charles wrote:
> however a vey significant part of the UK population live there.

A lot of them but "significant"?