Just as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The
Natural World' to be about animal researchers rather than the animals
they were researching - presumably because the human researchers are
easier and quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film - so BBC Science &
Technology stories are increasingly 'human interest' stories rather than
about scientific research. Here is today's RSS feed from their Science
& Technology Home page:

∗ BBC News - Science & Environment

Chemistry Nobel awarded for mirror-image molecules
A Briton and a German have been awarded the chemistry Nobel for
their work to build new molecules....

[Fine]

Climate change: Voices from global south muted by climate science
Climate academics from some of the regions worst hit by warming are
struggling to be published....

[Marginal]

Nobel in physics: Climate science breakthroughs earn prize
The physics Nobel has been given for work to understand complex
systems such as the Earth's climate....

[Fine]

Russian film team boldly shoot towards space station
An actress and film director dock with the International Space
Station in a first for Russia....

[Show business]

Life at sea by world's largest offshore wind farm in North Sea
Fancy a job with great sea views? Meet the engineers who maintain
174 turbines in the North Sea....

[Marginal]

Captain Kirk: Bezos' Blue Origin to send William Shatner into space
William Shatner, who played Captain Kirk, is set to become the
oldest person to fly to space....

[Show Business]

All UK's electricity will come from clean sources by 2035, says PM
Boris Johnson says the UK can get all its electricity supply to
"complete clean energy production" by 2035....

[Politics]

What climate scientists can teach us about dealing with climate
change doom
Climate anxiety is on the rise, so we spoke to climate scientists
about what helps them deal with feelings of hopelessness....

[Extremely Marginal, if really scientific at all]

Huntington Beach: California oil spill sparks concern for wildlife
The spill has been described by one official as a potential
ecological disaster....

[Not Science, barely Technology, so again very marginal]

The flood that drowned American dreams
Immigrant deaths in New York's floods lay bare the 'climate
apartheid' wrought by extreme weather....

[Politics and 'human interest']

Discuss!

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On 13:18 6 Oct 2021, Java Jive said:
>
> Just as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The
> Natural World' to be about animal researchers rather than the
> animals they were researching - presumably because the human
> researchers are easier and quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film
> - so BBC Science & Technology stories are increasingly 'human
> interest' stories rather than about scientific research.

This probably suits some of the BBC's low-brow news videos which
consist of half a dozen subtitles over a film clip with no narration.

Their factual content is minimal and what there is is often vacuous.

Maybe these so-called news videos are aimed at an undiscerning teen
audience or at those whose first language is not English but they're
a total waste of time for viewers who want information. Perhaps
they should have a prominent "D" logo for "dumbed down".

Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:

> Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:

It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.

As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.

--
Pete Forman
https://payg.pythonanywhere.com

I think that this kind of thing is also happening in the publications they
often get the seed of an idea from too. Look at Nature and New Scientist,
you often have a lot of the same stories, as politics, money, and the like
do affect science. gone are the days of the lone scientist levering away,
increasingly its how can we write our research proposal so we can get a
grant etc, and hence due to the commercial involvement there are contracts
that forbids disclosure in case its a bit of useless data or in the public
interest, something which is becoming far less defined nowadays, since the
lawyers walked in and took over. University research could not happen
without commercial involvement.
Brian

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"Java Jive" <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:sjk479$ive$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> Just as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The Natural
> World' to be about animal researchers rather than the animals they were
> researching - presumably because the human researchers are easier and
> quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film - so BBC Science & Technology
> stories are increasingly 'human interest' stories rather than about
> scientific research. Here is today's RSS feed from their Science &
> Technology Home page:
>
> ? BBC News - Science & Environment
>
> Chemistry Nobel awarded for mirror-image molecules
> A Briton and a German have been awarded the chemistry Nobel for their
> work to build new molecules....
>
> [Fine]
>
> Climate change: Voices from global south muted by climate science
> Climate academics from some of the regions worst hit by warming are
> struggling to be published....
>
> [Marginal]
>
> Nobel in physics: Climate science breakthroughs earn prize
> The physics Nobel has been given for work to understand complex
> systems such as the Earth's climate....
>
> [Fine]
>
> Russian film team boldly shoot towards space station
> An actress and film director dock with the International Space Station
> in a first for Russia....
>
> [Show business]
>
> Life at sea by world's largest offshore wind farm in North Sea
> Fancy a job with great sea views? Meet the engineers who maintain 174
> turbines in the North Sea....
>
> [Marginal]
>
> Captain Kirk: Bezos' Blue Origin to send William Shatner into space
> William Shatner, who played Captain Kirk, is set to become the oldest
> person to fly to space....
>
> [Show Business]
>
> All UK's electricity will come from clean sources by 2035, says PM
> Boris Johnson says the UK can get all its electricity supply to
> "complete clean energy production" by 2035....
>
> [Politics]
>
> What climate scientists can teach us about dealing with climate change
> doom
> Climate anxiety is on the rise, so we spoke to climate scientists
> about what helps them deal with feelings of hopelessness....
>
> [Extremely Marginal, if really scientific at all]
>
> Huntington Beach: California oil spill sparks concern for wildlife
> The spill has been described by one official as a potential ecological
> disaster....
>
> [Not Science, barely Technology, so again very marginal]
>
> The flood that drowned American dreams
> Immigrant deaths in New York's floods lay bare the 'climate apartheid'
> wrought by extreme weather....
>
> [Politics and 'human interest']
>
> Discuss!
>
> --
>
> Fake news kills!
>
> I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
> www.macfh.co.uk

On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 21:24:22 +0100, Pete Forman
<petef4+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:
>
>> Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>
>It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
>and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.
>
>As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
>malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
>may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.

I rarely watch anything from the BBC these days, especially not their
"scientific" output, which demands too much of my time to learn too
little. There are lots of scientific or technical channels on Youtube,
such as Scishow, Veritasium, Numberfile and hundreds of others that
can explain more in ten minutes than a typical mainstream broadcast
documentary full of expensive "production values" can manage in an
hour. Even The Sky at Night seems to have lost its way and become
fragmented and superficial, and if anything interesting has been
happening in space, Youtube contributors such as Scott Manley usually
have something more interesting to say about it.

As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.

Rod.

On 07/10/2021 10:08, Roderick Stewart wrote:

> As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
> recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
> and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
> episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
> scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
> unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
> one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
> life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
> no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
> the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
> recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.

Perhaps it's all big organisations who are following the trend. If you
are a member of the National Trust, you might have seen this. If not,
have a look at the profile for Stephen Green, who is standing for
election to the NT's Council, on page 21 (page 40 of the booklet) at:
<https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/documents/agm-2021-booklet.pdf>

Has Tunbridge Wells moved to Carmarthenshire?

--

Jeff

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 13:18:48 +0100
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

> Just as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The
> Natural World' to be about animal researchers rather than the animals
> they were researching - presumably because the human researchers
> are easier and quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film - so BBC
> Science & Technology stories are increasingly 'human interest'
> stories rather than about scientific research. Here is today's RSS
> feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>
> ∗ BBC News - Science & Environment
>
> Chemistry Nobel awarded for mirror-image molecules
> A Briton and a German have been awarded the chemistry Nobel for
> their work to build new molecules....
>
> [Fine]
>
> Climate change: Voices from global south muted by climate science
> Climate academics from some of the regions worst hit by warming
> are struggling to be published....
>
> [Marginal]
>
> Nobel in physics: Climate science breakthroughs earn prize
> The physics Nobel has been given for work to understand complex
> systems such as the Earth's climate....
>
> [Fine]
>
> Russian film team boldly shoot towards space station
> An actress and film director dock with the International Space
> Station in a first for Russia....
>
> [Show business]
>
> Life at sea by world's largest offshore wind farm in North Sea
> Fancy a job with great sea views? Meet the engineers who
> maintain 174 turbines in the North Sea....
>
> [Marginal]
>
> Captain Kirk: Bezos' Blue Origin to send William Shatner into
> space William Shatner, who played Captain Kirk, is set to become the
> oldest person to fly to space....
>
> [Show Business]
>
> All UK's electricity will come from clean sources by 2035, says
> PM Boris Johnson says the UK can get all its electricity supply to
> "complete clean energy production" by 2035....
>
> [Politics]
>
> What climate scientists can teach us about dealing with climate
> change doom
> Climate anxiety is on the rise, so we spoke to climate
> scientists about what helps them deal with feelings of
> hopelessness....
>
> [Extremely Marginal, if really scientific at all]
>
> Huntington Beach: California oil spill sparks concern for
> wildlife The spill has been described by one official as a potential
> ecological disaster....
>
> [Not Science, barely Technology, so again very marginal]
>
> The flood that drowned American dreams
> Immigrant deaths in New York's floods lay bare the 'climate
> apartheid' wrought by extreme weather....
>
> [Politics and 'human interest']
>
> Discuss!
>

Well, every American astronomy program I've seen has been
about how we're all going to be killed off by space rocks, supernovae
or gamma-ray bursts...

Real astrophysicists waving their hands about and shouting how the
next one is going to be the BIG one. Ice road trucker type thing where
there are going to fall through the ice, but don't. Tune in next week
when they might fall through the ice.

In article <3rctlgdq6kmav5v3p4c0ovp4qkelo1e9q3@4ax.com>,
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the
> most recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf
> person and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all
> in the same episode, and the most long-running central character, a
> forensic scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason
> took the unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual
> liaison with one of her students. All of these are things that can
> occur in real life of course, but the extreme concentration of so
> many of them for no apparent reason in the same story was truly
> cringeworthy. I thought the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate
> and entertain", but I don't recall Lord Reith saying anything about
> brainwashing.

Every word exactly right. My wife and I switched it off, too painful
to watch.

I do ask myself what do the people who create this woke/PC nonsense
hope is happening as people watch this up and down the country. I
presume they think it is changing what is viewed as "normal" by the
masses.

In reality I think the reaction is frequently **** off with your
nonsense and another group of people join the clamour to "defund the
BBC" and stop paying their licence fee.

Most people have real life problems and see this for what it is.

To be fair, it's not only the BBC. If you came from Mars and watched
UK tv now, what you think Britain was like?

From adverts alone you would think that around 50% of the population
is black, most marriages are mixed race, with about 40% gay. Almost
no Chinese and few southern Asians. The current Argos add features a
young couple setting up home, they are gay and mixed race.

Of all the people I've met in a lifetime working, I know 2 mixed
marriage couples and I know of a third. I know two gay couples one
being my wife's great nephew. I have no problem with any of them but
realistic proportions, - no. So why do it? Virtue signalling to the
woke numpties I suppose. It puts me off the complicit companies and
their products.

Bob.

On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 11:46:38 +0100, Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

>Of all the people I've met in a lifetime working, I know 2 mixed
>marriage couples and I know of a third.

Apart from one of my friends at school sixty years ago, the *only* gay
people I've *ever* knowingly met have been while working in
television, which being effectively a branch of showbiz is hardly
representative of everyone.

I say "knowingly" because it's possible I've encountered one or two
over the years without realising it, in which case it hasn't been an
issue, which it never would be for me anyway. We're all people.

Rod.

On 07/10/2021 10:08, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> All of these are things that can occur in real
> life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
> no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy.

Is that any different from the number of murders that some small areas
have when there is a TV series about the area.

In article <sjna5m$gv1$1@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
> On 07/10/2021 10:08, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> > All of these are things that can occur in real
> > life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
> > no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy.

> Is that any different from the number of murders that some small areas
> have when there is a TV series about the area.

Are you thinking of Midsommer?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 07/10/2021 18:52, charles wrote:
> Are you thinking of Midsommer?

Never seen it but there are lots of examples.

In article <87tuhtq4uh.fsf@gmail.com>, Pete Forman
<petef4+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:

> > Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:

> It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
> and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.

> As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
> malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
> may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.

Perhaps aided by the shedding of staff that has been happening.

Jim

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In article <sjk479$ive$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Java Jive
<java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> ust as a decade ago there was a growing trend in the series 'The
> Natural World' to be about animal researchers rather than the animals
> they were researching - presumably because the human researchers are
> easier and quicker, and therefore cheaper, to film - so BBC Science &
> Technology stories are increasingly 'human interest' stories rather than
> about scientific research.

What I've noticed is that over recent decades the content of BBC 'Nature'
programmes has shifted away from covering UK wildlife towards 'blood and
combat' 'predators and prey' sorts of topics around the world.

i.e. From 'Priddy the Hedgehog in your garden' to 'Big cats chase deer,
claw down, and eat them in Africa'

Presumably because it sells better in the USA.

Jim

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On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:08:27 +0100, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 21:24:22 +0100, Pete Forman
><petef4+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>>
>>It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
>>and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.
>>
>>As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
>>malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
>>may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.
>
>I rarely watch anything from the BBC these days, especially not their
>"scientific" output, which demands too much of my time to learn too
>little. There are lots of scientific or technical channels on Youtube,
>such as Scishow, Veritasium, Numberfile and hundreds of others that
>can explain more in ten minutes than a typical mainstream broadcast
>documentary full of expensive "production values" can manage in an
>hour. Even The Sky at Night seems to have lost its way and become
>fragmented and superficial, and if anything interesting has been
>happening in space, Youtube contributors such as Scott Manley usually
>have something more interesting to say about it.
>
>As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
>recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
>and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
>episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
>scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
>unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
>one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
>life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
>no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
>the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
>recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.

Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 10:55:27 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:08:27 +0100, Roderick Stewart
><rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 21:24:22 +0100, Pete Forman
>><petef4+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>>>
>>>It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
>>>and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.
>>>
>>>As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
>>>malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
>>>may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.
>>
>>I rarely watch anything from the BBC these days, especially not their
>>"scientific" output, which demands too much of my time to learn too
>>little. There are lots of scientific or technical channels on Youtube,
>>such as Scishow, Veritasium, Numberfile and hundreds of others that
>>can explain more in ten minutes than a typical mainstream broadcast
>>documentary full of expensive "production values" can manage in an
>>hour. Even The Sky at Night seems to have lost its way and become
>>fragmented and superficial, and if anything interesting has been
>>happening in space, Youtube contributors such as Scott Manley usually
>>have something more interesting to say about it.
>>
>>As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
>>recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
>>and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
>>episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
>>scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
>>unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
>>one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
>>life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
>>no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
>>the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
>>recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.
>
>Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.

Silent witness was about puzzle solving, which is possibly why it
appealed to me. It's not very different in essence from what we do
when we have to find a fault in a piece of electronics or some other
engineering system. However, lately it seems to be going the way of
any TV drama that has been running too long, as they all eventually
drift away from the main subject and degenerate into soap operas about
the personal lives of the characters, often these days embellished by
some sociopolitical beliefs of the writers and producers.

Rod.

On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 10:55:57 +0100, Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 07/10/2021 10:08, Roderick Stewart wrote:
>
>> As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
>> recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
>> and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
>> episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
>> scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
>> unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
>> one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
>> life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
>> no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
>> the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
>> recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.
>
>Perhaps it's all big organisations who are following the trend. If you
>are a member of the National Trust, you might have seen this. If not,
>have a look at the profile for Stephen Green, who is standing for
>election to the NT's Council, on page 21 (page 40 of the booklet) at:
><https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/documents/agm-2021-booklet.pdf>
>
>Has Tunbridge Wells moved to Carmarthenshire?

Can't argue with this " I also seek your vote to end what I believe
to be the anti-democratic, corrupt system
whereby the Trust elite ‘recommends’
certain Council election candidates to
ensure nobody is elected who will ever
actually call them to account.
So if I am elected to the National Trust
Council it will be nothing less than
a miracle! "
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 11:37:09 +0100, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 10:55:27 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 07 Oct 2021 10:08:27 +0100, Roderick Stewart
>><rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 21:24:22 +0100, Pete Forman
>>><petef4+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Here is today's RSS feed from their Science & Technology Home page:
>>>>
>>>>It is not just Science & Technology. I subscribe to a few BBC RSS feeds
>>>>and have noticed of late that much irrelevant content is being served.
>>>>
>>>>As to the reason for that I suggest Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to
>>>>malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". In this case it
>>>>may well be down to Artificial Stupidity, aka AI.
>>>
>>>I rarely watch anything from the BBC these days, especially not their
>>>"scientific" output, which demands too much of my time to learn too
>>>little. There are lots of scientific or technical channels on Youtube,
>>>such as Scishow, Veritasium, Numberfile and hundreds of others that
>>>can explain more in ten minutes than a typical mainstream broadcast
>>>documentary full of expensive "production values" can manage in an
>>>hour. Even The Sky at Night seems to have lost its way and become
>>>fragmented and superficial, and if anything interesting has been
>>>happening in space, Youtube contributors such as Scott Manley usually
>>>have something more interesting to say about it.
>>>
>>>As for the "quality drama" for which the BBC was once famous, the most
>>>recent Silent Witness had a black genius, a gay couple, a deaf person
>>>and somebody with only one arm - all women of course - all in the same
>>>episode, and the most long-running central character, a forensic
>>>scientist of previously impeccable morals, for some reason took the
>>>unprecedented opportunity for an unprofessional sexual liaison with
>>>one of her students. All of these are things that can occur in real
>>>life of course, but the extreme concentration of so many of them for
>>>no apparent reason in the same story was truly cringeworthy. I thought
>>>the aim of the BBC was "to inform, educate and entertain", but I don't
>>>recall Lord Reith saying anything about brainwashing.
>>
>>Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>
>Silent witness was about puzzle solving, which is possibly why it
>appealed to me. It's not very different in essence from what we do
>when we have to find a fault in a piece of electronics or some other
>engineering system. However, lately it seems to be going the way of
>any TV drama that has been running too long, as they all eventually
>drift away from the main subject and degenerate into soap operas about
>the personal lives of the characters, often these days embellished by
>some sociopolitical beliefs of the writers and producers.

So you like Silent Witness. All crime series are about puzzle solving.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 14:20:53 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>So you like Silent Witness. All crime series are about puzzle solving.

So they are, but the better ones have a lower brainwashing content. I
previously though SW was one of them, but lately I have doubts.

Rod.

On 08/10/2021 09:55, Martin wrote:
>
> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.

The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
stopped watching it.

Jim

On 08/10/2021 23:07, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 09:55, Martin wrote:
>>
>> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>
> The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
> accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
> the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
> stopped watching it.

The early series are being re-run on FreeView Drama Channel 20 on
Saturdays, including tonight, at 9 PM

On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:07:13 +0100, Indy Jess John
<bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

>On 08/10/2021 09:55, Martin wrote:
>>
>> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>
>The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
>accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
>the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
>stopped watching it.

Somebody from Silent Witness said in an interview that some times they make up
the medical stuff and nobody has complained yet.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 10:50:15 +0200, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:07:13 +0100, Indy Jess John
><bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 08/10/2021 09:55, Martin wrote:
>>>
>>> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>>
>>The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
>>accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
>>the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
>>stopped watching it.
>
>Somebody from Silent Witness said in an interview that some times they make up
>the medical stuff and nobody has complained yet.

That doesn't mean nobody notices. Doctors probably think it's a more
valuable use of their time and effort to deal with their real patients
than to complain about the treatment of fictitious ones.

My mother, who was a doctor, would regularly notice medical mistakes
in TV dramas, and my father's interest in ornithology enabled him to
notice if they'd used a sound effect with the wrong kind of birdsong
for the place or time of year, but neither of them ever thought of
complaining to anyone about it. We've probably all seen a few glaring
errors in anything involving electronics or computers, but realised it
would be pointless to make a fuss. It just makes you less inclined to
watch future episodes once you realise they're full of bollocks.

Rod.

On 10/10/2021 09:50 am, Martin wrote:

> Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>
>>> Silent Witness was always rubbish. Cross that off the list too.
>
>> The first couple of series featured the science and deductions from the
>> accumulation of clues. After that the people became more important than
>> the forensics and it became far less entertaining. That is when I
>> stopped watching it.
>
> Somebody from Silent Witness said in an interview that some times they make up
> the medical stuff and nobody has complained yet.

I vaguely remember that forty+ years ago, a life-threatening hereditary
male-line disease was invented by the writers of "Dallas" (as part of a
"Who is the real father?" plot).

There was a bit of public fuss about it, but "Dallas" was a more popular
programme than "Silent Witness", I think, and attracted more attention.

On 10/10/2021 11:40, Roderick Stewart wrote:
> That doesn't mean nobody notices. Doctors probably think it's a more
> valuable use of their time and effort to deal with their real patients
> than to complain about the treatment of fictitious ones.

The BBC early evening news today was talking about COVID and 'Flu. The
reporter said something about there not being much of the 'flu virus
during lockdown.

_The_ 'flu virus? The jab I had the other week covered 4!

I haven't complained. I just downgraded my faith in the rest of the article.

Andy