Happened this morning

https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

On 06/10/2021 16:22, Mark Carver wrote:
> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

https://www.thisisthecoast.co.uk/news/local-news/bilsdale-tv-mast-demolished/

[ Cross-posted, as in OP ]

Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:

> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
.... that may make cleaning up easier.

Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
used any hashtags.)

--
David

David Williams <davidw_3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> [ Cross-posted, as in OP ]
>
> Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> Happened this morning
>>
>> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981
>
> Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
> the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
> debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
> ... that may make cleaning up easier.
>
> Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
> from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
> used any hashtags.)
>

On YouTube https://youtu.be/AA-fmLFaqAc

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.
Bloody spoilsports...

I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on Youtube -
so I wonder how *they* knew.

Interesting that there's nothing (yet) on the Arqiva Bilsdale page
https://www.arqiva.com/news-views/news/update-on-incident-at-bilsdale-mast

In article <sjkjkp$gm5$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
scribeth thus
>David Williams <davidw_3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> [ Cross-posted, as in OP ]
>>
>> Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Happened this morning
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981
>>
>> Thanks. Looks like a neat job, with simultaneous explosions at
>> the base of the mast and two stay points on the same side. Some
>> debris from the top sections landed across an access track but
>> ... that may make cleaning up easier.
>>
>> Tyne Tees have a tweet leading to an article and Arqiva footage
>> from multiple viewpoints. (Search "Bilsdale" because they haven't
>> used any hashtags.)
>>
>
>On YouTube https://youtu.be/AA-fmLFaqAc
>

Yes that went as I'd expect it to come down, right stays cut and..

You'd think they'd sell off bits as souvenirs wouldn't you?, no
imagination Arqiva;!...

--
Tony Sayer

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

On 06/10/2021 17:56, NY wrote:
> I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on Youtube -
> so I wonder how*they* knew.

I wonder if a NOTAM was issued?

On 06/10/2021 17:56, tony sayer wrote:
> You'd think they'd sell off bits as souvenirs wouldn't you?, no
> imagination Arqiva;!...

No bits on eBay yet?

On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:

>I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.
>Bloody spoilsports...

The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday October
31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
expect to sit.

"Jeff Gaines" <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:
>
>>I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.
>>Bloody spoilsports...
>
> The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday October
> 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.

Sadly, the other end of the country. I'd have gone to see Didcot's towers
coming down a few years ago if I'd still lived a mile or so from them: I bet
Wittenham Clumps (hill nearby with good view) was packed! But we now live in
Yorkshire - hence being able to get over to Bilsdale easily. We went for a
walk on Bilsdale *East* Moor (opposite side of Helmsley-Stokesley road) a
few weeks ago and there was a good view of the mast from near the trig
point, so we'd decided that's where we'd go there once it was announced when
the demolition would be... But H&S and safety exclusions won over allowing
the public to witness it, even from a distance. Apparently the locals were
told, but for some reason none of the locals told the newspapers - I keep an
eye on the York Press and the Ryedale Gazette sites.

On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:
>
>> I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
>> watch. Bloody spoilsports...
>
> The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
> October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.
>
Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
but at least it's free parking until 10am

On 06/10/2021 17:56, NY wrote:
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Happened this morning
>>
>> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981
>
> I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to watch.

You and thousands of others. That's the problem
>
> I've seen amateur video of the collapse - not the Arqiva video on
> Youtube - so I wonder how *they* knew.
>
Probably locals who had been tipped off, and/or noticed lots of drones
suddenly being flown and/or the exclusion zone suddenly being widened

I wonder why they did not do a live broadcast or publicise it more locally.
Maybe they were frightened of the idiot factor of people getting too close
to it, but nonetheless, its did sound a bit like a load of old scrap iron on
the audio I listened to, and yet only about three days ago somebody was
talking about repairing it and rewiring it. I guess the bean counters
weighed up the possible danger of collapse in the meantime against the cost
of a rebuild, but still site clearance is not going to be cheap, I wonder if
souvenir hunters will be up there in the dead of night for some bits they
can take away?
Brian

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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

On 07/10/2021 08:45, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:
>>
>>> I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
>>> watch. Bloody spoilsports...
>>
>> The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
>> October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.
>>
> Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
> but at least it's free parking until 10am

I hope it's not going to be too nippy for you...
<https://www.walkingclub.org.uk/nudist-beach/Meon-near-Lee-on-Solent-Hampshire.html>

--

Jeff

On 07/10/2021 09:10, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 07/10/2021 08:45, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 06/10/2021 21:32, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2021 in message <sjkkev$mdq$1@dont-email.me> NY wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wish I'd known it was going to happen - I'd have gone along to
>>>> watch. Bloody spoilsports...
>>>
>>> The Fawley Power Station chimney is due to be demolished on Sunday
>>> October 31 at 7am if it's not too far away.
>>>
>> Yes, we're going to watch from Meon Shore. I suspect we won't be alone,
>> but at least it's free parking until 10am
>
> I hope it's not going to be too nippy for you...
> <https://www.walkingclub.org.uk/nudist-beach/Meon-near-Lee-on-Solent-Hampshire.html>
>
>
Ha ha, yes, we stumbled across (literally !) that lot a few weeks ago.
Not a pretty sight !

Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

>>"Just cutting the stays on one side should allow it to fall in the
>>preferred direction." [Liz Tuddenham]

>>"Bet you as mucho as you like Liz that they will blow out a bit at the
>>bottom!," [Tony Sayer]

Looks as though we were both right.

--
~ Liz Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk

On 07/10/2021 09:08, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> I wonder why they did not do a live broadcast or publicise it more locally.
> Maybe they were frightened of the idiot factor of people getting too close
> to it,

It's a national park, with narrow and poor roads. There'd have been
utter chaos.
The whole reason the replacement etc is taking so long is because of all
the environmental concerns.

> but nonetheless, its did sound a bit like a load of old scrap iron on
> the audio I listened to, and yet only about three days ago somebody was
> talking about repairing it and rewiring it.

Who was ? Provide a link please. There's never been any recent
suggestion (from Arqiva or the broadcasters) it was repairable

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:22:36 +0100
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

Blaster Bates would have approved!
And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

Davey.

"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:22:36 +0100
> Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Happened this morning
>>
>> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981
>
> Blaster Bates would have approved!
> And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.

Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story about "a
shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit which showered a lot
of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would have gone well except that
someone strayed into the line of fire, started to run away and *nearly*
outran the shower but tripped at the last minute and got covered...

I borrowed a couple of cassettes of his talks from a friend at work many
years ago. There's one story he told which I've never managed to find on
Youtube. It concerns Father Christmas coming down a chimney and meeting a
nubile lass who invites him into bed. He's a busy man and he's got lots more
presents to deliver, so he resists her invitation three times, but
eventually her nakedness has the expected effect on his anatomy, and the
story ends with him saying "Sod it, I might as well stay. With this stiffy
I'll never get back up the chimney anyway."

Another good raconteur was David Gunson, an air-traffic controller who gave
an after-dinner talk which was recorded and released on cassette. He
describes in hilarious terms his work of a controller (and the problems that
the French controllers used to cause to British flights when they staged a
lightning strike) and ends with a description of how to fly a jumbo jet.

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Happened this morning
>
> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981

Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from the
local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80 metre mast
which looks *very* small in comparison...

https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png
https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png

On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 12:34:16 +0100
"NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> > Blaster Bates would have approved!
> > And if you don't know who he was, then you need edificating.
>
> Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story
> about "a shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit
> which showered a lot of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would
> have gone well except that someone strayed into the line of fire,
> started to run away and *nearly* outran the shower but tripped at the
> last minute and got covered...

"Like gossamer, it were!"

One of his tales involved getting involved in a fox hunt, and his
memorable phrase about the horses approaching at speed was: "They don't
have Ferodo, you know."

Yep, he and Fred were two of a kind.

I might have heard a David Gunson talk, without knowing anything about
him. Your description sounds familiar. I remember somebody talking
about pulling his boots on in the morning, checking that the 'L' and
'R' marks were on the correct feet.

--
Davey,

On 07/10/2021 12:34, NY wrote:
> Blaster Bates was a legend, alongside Fred Dibnah. I love his story about "a
> shower of shit over Cheshire" when he blew up a cesspit which showered a lot
> of well-rotted excrement into the air; all would have gone well except that
> someone strayed into the line of fire, started to run away and*nearly*
> outran the shower but tripped at the last minute and got covered...

Years ago I read a book the founder of the Met's Bomb Squad. He had
been an AT in army and spent time in Libya clearing wartime munitions.
He went to one village where there a bomb in a cesspit. The villagers
were all waiting for him to get into the cesspit to make it safe but he
just blew it up without getting into the tank.

"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> I might have heard a David Gunson talk, without knowing anything about
> him. Your description sounds familiar. I remember somebody talking
> about pulling his boots on in the morning, checking that the 'L' and
> 'R' marks were on the correct feet.

That sounds like him. I think it was "kid-leather gloves" with L and R on
the backs

He had a laconic Birmingham accent and a talent for telling a story in a
very entertaining way. He describes how to fly a helicopter: (I'm
paraphrasing) "It's all a bit hit-and-miss. You move the stick like crazy,
all over the place, then you hold it steady and you watch what happens,
because if you want it to do that again, *that* is where you put the stick".
When he was talking about the French air-traffic controller's strike (on a
Friday) he recounts phoning them after several days of pandemonium because
flights had to take a long detour to avoid French air-space. He finds that
they are back at work: "Affirmative. We came back to work Saturday. It's
been *very* quiet this weekend" - they'd gone on strike for one day, gone
back to work again the next day... but hadn't told any of the neighbouring
countries.

The tape is called "What goes up might come down".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_iTG1CsQBs

Another very memorable (though more serious) talk that I heard was very
dramatic account of a helicopter pilot who managed to land his helicopter
safely after the tail rotor failed, which normally makes the helicopter
impossible to fly, and it spins and crashes. Somehow this guy managed to
mentally sift through his memory of everything he had learned and he managed
to work out a plan for getting it down, even if it did land on one wheel and
go sideways down the runway till he tipped it back over and brought it to
rest. The crucial thing was that he had to land it at speed, because it was
only the forward motion of air over the tail which was preventing it
spinning. He was one of the pilots who flew the comms helicopter for
Treasure Hunt (there's a photo of the helicopter in the livery that we saw
in TH) and was returning to base after a day's filming. The TV cameraman
performed a crucial task in cutting the engines at exactly the right moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNkwk2d_DJ8

On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 13:40:15 +0100
"NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> The tape is called "What goes up might come down".

Yes, that's the one.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_iTG1CsQBs

>
> Another very memorable (though more serious) talk that I heard was
> very dramatic account of a helicopter pilot who managed to land his
> helicopter safely after the tail rotor failed, which normally makes
> the helicopter impossible to fly, and it spins and crashes. Somehow
> this guy managed to mentally sift through his memory of everything he
> had learned and he managed to work out a plan for getting it down,
> even if it did land on one wheel and go sideways down the runway till
> he tipped it back over and brought it to rest. The crucial thing was
> that he had to land it at speed, because it was only the forward
> motion of air over the tail which was preventing it spinning. He was
> one of the pilots who flew the comms helicopter for Treasure Hunt
> (there's a photo of the helicopter in the livery that we saw in TH)
> and was returning to base after a day's filming. The TV cameraman
> performed a crucial task in cutting the engines at exactly the right
> moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNkwk2d_DJ8

When we lived in the US, there was a TV documentary called 'Condition
Black' about a record surfing event off of Hawaii's North Shore.
Massive, massive swells, a total ban on anybody going out there to surf,
which of course was ignored. The helicopter pilot with the IMAX camera
on board was an ex-Vietnam pilot, and he kept on flying so low that the
'copter kept disappearing below wave-top height, with subsequent
stoppings of hearts of the shore-bound onlookers. If you can, watch it,
although I have no idea where you would find it. It has to be about 15
years old now, at least.
It was probably a Discovery Channel, a PBS Channel, or maybe a
Smithsonian Channel programme. I have forgotten all the different
channels there now.
I have it on NTSC videotape........marked as about 2003. It is not
transcribed to PC digital file.

--
Davey.

On Thu 07/10/2021 12:38, NY wrote:
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:is5t9sFbo8tU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Happened this morning
>>
>> https://twitter.com/IwasMeegeren/status/1445765037109374981
>
> Here are a few close-up pictures of the felled mast that I grabbed from
> the local Tyne Tees report last night, as well as one of the new 80
> metre mast which looks *very* small in comparison...
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/BnR9cHFv/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m08s11.png
> https://i.postimg.cc/j50TKPq1/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m11s37.png
> https://i.postimg.cc/9F8j0vFZ/vlcsnap-2021-10-07-12h22m16s82.png

The reason for the new temp mast looking small is because its base is
lower than the big tube, and the picture was taken probably from the
track below the site so the temp will look small.

Have a look at the link Mark put in of the demolition yesterday and you
will get a glimpse of the temp.