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 by: Tweed - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:52 UTC

https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/introducing-sky-glass-the-new-streaming-tv-from-sky

The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.

Sky today announced the launch of Sky Glass, dramatically simplifying the
way customers watch TV by integrating hardware, software and content. Sky
Glass will be the only TV with award-winning Sky inside.

For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
available to buy in the UK from 18 October and will launch in Sky’s other
European markets from 2022.

Sky Glass, the streaming TV from Sky - key features:

The only TV with Sky and all your favourite apps inside
Buy your TV like you buy your mobile phone with flexible payments
Cutting-edge design available in five colours and three sizes
Ultra HD and Quantum Dot technology producing over 1 billion colours
360° Dolby Atmos® sound with powerful built-in speakers and sub-woofer
Talk to your TV: just say “Hello Sky” to find what to watch
The world’s first TV to be certified as a CarbonNeutral® product
Simply plug, pair and play to enjoy stunning screen quality and cinematic
sound, with everything you need built in, so you will be ready to go in
minutes. With easy access to stream your favourite content and apps using
your voice and incredible search, Sky Glass makes it simple for you to find
and watch the TV you love.

Speaking at the launch, Dana Strong, Group Chief Executive, Sky said: “Sky
Glass is the streaming TV with Sky inside, providing the total integration
of hardware, software and content. Built on over 30 years of understanding
what our customers want, this is a TV that only Sky could make. We believe
this is the smartest TV available, and that customers will love it.”

Redefining the TV market

Sky has always aimed to give people what they want before they know they
want it, and to make things easy for customers. That’s why Sky is
redefining and creating a new category within the TV market to reach even
more households. By taking this step, Sky will operate across the whole
value chain, from content production, through to connectivity and
aggregation, all coming together on the Sky Glass screen.

Sky Glass is designed to make life easier with a range of innovations:

TV never looked so good

Sky partnered with Map Project Office, one of world’s leading design
agencies, to create the elegant design. Sky Glass comes in a choice of
three sizes (Small 43”, Medium 55” and Large 65”) and five rich colours.
Choose from Ocean blue, Ceramic white, Racing green, Dusky pink, or
Anthracite black, with matching remotes and customisable speaker fascias
for extra personalisation. It has a mounting bracket cleverly integrated
into the TV, or a sleek colour matched stand. With a single wire and just
one plug, Sky Glass makes clutter a thing of the past, while the woven
acoustic mesh used to optimise sound performance and millimetre-perfect
perforations help Sky Glass sound as good as it looks.

Spectacular screen and spine-tingling sound

With over a billion colours, a 4K Ultra HD Quantum Dot screen delivers
crystal-clear picture, while the 10-bit HDR screen supports HLG, HDR10 and
Dolby Vision® to produce vibrant, more intense colour. Whether you’re
cheering on your team in the Premier League or getting stuck into the
latest blockbuster, Sky Glass knows what you’re watching and optimises
sound and picture for you, while Intelligent Zonal Technology works to
bring you darker darks and brights that look brighter.

Transform your living room into a cinema, concert, or stadium with six
powerful, integrated speakers in optimal positions to deliver edge to edge
Dolby Atmos® sound and a sub-woofer designed in for a rich, deep bass - all
without buying a separate soundbar.

The smarter TV with Sky inside

With far field voice and Glance Motion Technology, just say “Hello Sky” or
walk past to bring the streaming TV to life. A new home page makes it
easier to find, watch and play the TV you love. It brings all your
favourite content from across Sky, BBC iPlayer, Netflix, Disney+, ITV Hub,
All4, Spotify, Peloton, PlayWorks and more. Use your voice to find what you
want in a flash and to turn on the TV, control the volume or switch to
connected devices.

At the press of a single button, you can now create a personal Playlist of
your favourite shows, movies and more across apps and channels, live and on
demand. The new plus button on the remote adds to your Playlist for you to
stream any time you want – all in one place.

You never need to miss a show again with live Restart, you can jump
straight back into anything that’s on now and available to watch from the
start.

Doesn’t cost the Earth

Sky Glass is the world’s first TV to be certified as a CarbonNeutral®
product. Sustainably designed, it has low power features built in such as
auto-switch-off and auto-adjusting screen brightness helping it to be more
energy efficient. It is the only TV to come in recyclable packaging, free
from single-use plastic and by using a TV with everything built in, you
reduce electricity consumption by up to 50%i.

Hi-tech. Low price.

Sky Glass is made to be affordable. Choose to buy your TV like you buy your
mobile phone by paying in one go or spread the cost with interest-free
monthly payments. It is available from as little as £13 per month,
exclusively with Sky TV, starting from £26 for Sky Ultimate TV and for the
first time HD is included as standard. That’s £39 per month to get the 43”
Sky Glass TV plus every episode of award-winning Sky Originals and Sky
Exclusives, all your favourite channels and a fantastic line up you won’t
find on Freeview, as well as Netflix. For just £4 more a month you can
increase the size of your TV to a 55”, or £8 more for a 65”.

It comes with a full two-year warranty and a free delivery service that
includes unboxing and packaging removal.

For those that enjoy watching Sky in multiple rooms in your house, the
Whole Home pack puts Sky Glass inside any TV using the Sky Stream Puck for
£10 a month.

Coming soon…

Sky Glass has been built as a platform which can be deployed by other Telco
and subscription television operators so they can bring the Sky Glass
experience to their customers too. Sky today announces the Foxtel Group,
Australia's leading subscription TV company as its first Sky Glass
syndication partner. Sky Glass will launch in the Australian market as an
element of the Foxtel Group’s future roadmap for its Foxtel brand and will
contain both Foxtel and third-party content. This is the first of many
collaborations as Sky Glass is scaled across the globe.

Sky Glass will get even better in 2022, with the launch of a high spec 4K
smart camera that works seamlessly with Sky Glass and will unlock a range
of exciting new services for the whole family. It will transform how we
chat, play games, workout and share entertainment at home.

Leveraging Comcast’s technology strength

The streaming TV from Sky is built on technology borne of the collaboration
as part of the Comcast Corporation – using the same operating system, and
with shared knowledge and expertise. A great example of how Sky and Comcast
are together accelerating innovation across the company. Added to Sky’s
successful history of innovation gives the perfect combination of scale,
capability and brand power.

Strongest line-up of products

In 2022, Sky will offer its strongest ever line-up of products and services
to sit alongside Sky Glass. In addition to Sky Glass, customers can enjoy
the award-winning Sky Q with all your favourite channels and apps in one
place, and with Sky Go you can now access an even better experience on your
devices. Sky TV has new channels, new shows and new deals with Peacock,
Paramount+ and more. Sky Mobile was voted Best Pay Monthly and Best Value
Pay Monthly network by Uswitch, and with Sky Broadband we’re offering our
fastest speeds yet.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 07:36 UTC

What about the talking menus and apps in Sky Q, though I gather its not yet
working for the recording bits or some of the third party apps. Somebody
somewhere needs to set basic accessible standards before things get
completely out of control in the go our own way wild west of TV.
Brian

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"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/introducing-sky-glass-the-new-streaming-tv-from-sky
>
> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>
> Sky today announced the launch of Sky Glass, dramatically simplifying the
> way customers watch TV by integrating hardware, software and content. Sky
> Glass will be the only TV with award-winning Sky inside.
>
> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
> available to buy in the UK from 18 October and will launch in Sky's other
> European markets from 2022.
>
> Sky Glass, the streaming TV from Sky - key features:
>
> The only TV with Sky and all your favourite apps inside
> Buy your TV like you buy your mobile phone with flexible payments
> Cutting-edge design available in five colours and three sizes
> Ultra HD and Quantum Dot?technology producing over 1 billion colours
> 360� Dolby Atmos� sound with powerful built-in speakers and sub-woofer
> Talk to your TV: just say "Hello Sky" to find what to watch
> The world's first TV?to be certified as a CarbonNeutral� product
> Simply plug, pair and play to enjoy stunning screen quality and cinematic
> sound, with everything you need built in, so you will be ready to go in
> minutes. With easy access to stream your favourite content and apps using
> your voice and incredible search, Sky Glass makes it simple for you to
> find
> and watch the TV you love.
>
> Speaking at the launch, Dana Strong, Group Chief Executive, Sky said: "Sky
> Glass is the streaming TV with Sky inside, providing the total integration
> of hardware, software and content. Built on over 30 years of understanding
> what our customers want, this is a TV that only Sky could make. We believe
> this is the smartest TV available, and that customers will love it."
>
> Redefining the TV market
>
> Sky has always aimed to give people?what they want before they know they
> want it, and to make things easy for customers. That's why Sky is
> redefining and creating a new category within the TV market to reach even
> more households. By taking this step, Sky will operate?across the whole
> value chain, from content production,?through to connectivity and
> aggregation,?all coming together on the?Sky Glass screen.
>
> Sky Glass is designed to make life easier with a range of innovations:
>
> TV never looked so good
>
> Sky partnered with Map Project Office, one of world's leading design
> agencies, to create the elegant design. Sky Glass comes in a choice of
> three sizes (Small 43", Medium 55" and Large 65") and five rich colours.
> Choose from Ocean blue, Ceramic white, Racing green, Dusky pink, or
> Anthracite black, with matching remotes and customisable speaker fascias
> for extra personalisation. It has a mounting bracket cleverly integrated
> into the TV, or a sleek colour matched stand. With a single wire and just
> one plug, Sky Glass makes clutter a thing of the past, while the woven
> acoustic mesh used to optimise sound performance and millimetre-perfect
> perforations help Sky Glass sound as good as it looks.
>
> Spectacular screen and spine-tingling sound
>
> With over a billion colours, a 4K Ultra HD Quantum Dot?screen delivers
> crystal-clear picture, while the 10-bit HDR screen supports HLG, HDR10 and
> Dolby Vision� to produce vibrant, more intense colour. Whether you're
> cheering on your team in the Premier League or getting stuck into the
> latest blockbuster, Sky Glass knows what you're watching and optimises
> sound and picture for you, while Intelligent Zonal Technology works to
> bring you darker darks and brights that look brighter.
>
> Transform your living room into a cinema, concert, or stadium with six
> powerful, integrated speakers in optimal positions to deliver edge to edge
> Dolby Atmos� sound and a sub-woofer designed in for a rich, deep bass -
> all
> without buying a separate soundbar.
>
> The smarter TV with Sky inside
>
> With far field voice and Glance Motion Technology, just say "Hello Sky" or
> walk past to bring the streaming TV to life. A new home page makes it
> easier to find, watch and play the TV you love. It brings all your
> favourite content from across Sky, BBC iPlayer, Netflix, Disney+, ITV Hub,
> All4, Spotify, Peloton, PlayWorks and more. Use your voice to find what
> you
> want in a flash and to turn on the TV, control the volume or switch to
> connected devices.
>
> At the press of a single button, you can now create a personal Playlist of
> your favourite shows, movies and more across apps and channels, live and
> on
> demand. The new plus button on the remote adds to your Playlist for you to
> stream any time you want - all in one place.
>
> You never need to miss a show again with live Restart, you can jump
> straight back into anything that's on now and available to watch from the
> start.
>
> Doesn't cost the Earth
>
> Sky Glass is the world's first TV?to be certified as a CarbonNeutral�
> product. Sustainably designed, it has low power features built in such as
> auto-switch-off and auto-adjusting screen brightness helping it to be more
> energy efficient. It is the only TV to come in recyclable packaging, free
> from single-use plastic and by using a TV with everything built in, you
> reduce electricity consumption by up to 50%i.
>
> Hi-tech. Low price.
>
> Sky Glass is made to be affordable. Choose to buy your TV like you buy
> your
> mobile phone by paying in one go or spread the cost with interest-free
> monthly payments. It is available from as little as �13 per month,
> exclusively with Sky TV, starting from �26 for Sky Ultimate TV and for the
> first time HD is included as standard. That's �39 per month to get the 43"
> Sky Glass TV plus every episode of award-winning Sky Originals and Sky
> Exclusives, all your favourite channels and a fantastic line up you won't
> find on Freeview, as well as Netflix. For just �4 more a month you can
> increase the size of your TV to a 55", or �8 more for a 65".
>
> It comes with a full two-year warranty and a free delivery service that
> includes unboxing and packaging removal.
>
> For those that enjoy watching Sky in multiple rooms in your house, the
> Whole Home pack puts Sky Glass inside any TV using the Sky Stream Puck for
> �10 a month.
>
> Coming soon.
>
> Sky Glass has been built as a platform which can be deployed by other
> Telco
> and subscription television operators so they can bring the Sky Glass
> experience to their customers too. Sky today announces the Foxtel Group,
> Australia's leading subscription TV company as its first Sky Glass
> syndication partner. Sky Glass will launch in the Australian market as an
> element of the Foxtel Group's future roadmap for its Foxtel brand and will
> contain both Foxtel and third-party content. This is the first of many
> collaborations as Sky Glass is scaled across the globe.
>
> Sky Glass will get even better in 2022, with the launch of a high spec 4K
> smart camera that works seamlessly with Sky Glass and will unlock a range
> of exciting new services for the whole family. It will transform how we
> chat, play games, workout and share entertainment at home.
>
> Leveraging Comcast's technology strength
>
> The streaming TV from Sky is built on technology borne of the
> collaboration
> as part of the Comcast Corporation - using the same operating system, and
> with shared knowledge and expertise. A great example of how Sky and
> Comcast
> are together accelerating innovation across the company. Added to Sky's
> successful history of innovation gives the perfect combination of scale,
> capability and brand power.
>
> Strongest line-up of products
>
> In 2022, Sky will offer its strongest ever line-up of products and
> services
> to sit alongside Sky Glass. In addition to Sky Glass, customers can enjoy
> the award-winning Sky Q with all your favourite channels and apps in one
> place, and with Sky Go you can now access an even better experience on
> your
> devices. Sky TV has new channels, new shows and new deals with Peacock,
> Paramount+ and more. Sky Mobile was voted?Best Pay Monthly and Best Value
> Pay Monthly network by Uswitch, and with Sky Broadband we're offering our
> fastest speeds yet.
>


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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 07:47 UTC

On 08/10/2021 in message <sjopqs$pu0$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

>The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.

I have a Roku box and separate TV and amp, gives me the best of all worlds
(and saves me £57 a month to Sky) with the ability to update/replace
discrete units as needed.

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By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

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 by: Indy Jess John - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:52 UTC

On 08/10/2021 07:52, Tweed wrote:
> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.

And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you
can't watch anything but Sky.

Not for me, thanks.

Jim

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 09:09 UTC

In article <xn0n3vth0umt5lh029@news.individual.net>,
Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 in message <sjopqs$pu0$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:

> >The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.

> I have a Roku box and separate TV and amp, gives me the best of all
> worlds (and saves me £57 a month to Sky) with the ability to
> update/replace discrete units as needed.

Interesting, I can see the logic.

Not trying to pick holes, I'm interested as to what's possible I
presume that you cannot get Sky specific progs and channels or can
you? Sky F1, Alibi, Black List etc..

Thanks.

Bob.

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 by: Mark Carver - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 09:18 UTC

On 08/10/2021 09:52, Indy Jess John wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 07:52, Tweed wrote:
>> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>
> And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you
> can't watch anything but Sky.

It almost  certainly DOES have an aerial socket according to this, and a
photo, but the whole scheme and business model is to lock you into the
Skyuniverse, so for all of use in here not scared by wires, dishes, HDMI
leads etc  it's not for us.

https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/sky-glass-4k-streaming-tv-hands-on/

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 09:54 UTC

On 08/10/2021 in message <59781d9d13bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
wrote:

>In article <xn0n3vth0umt5lh029@news.individual.net>,
> Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>On 08/10/2021 in message <sjopqs$pu0$1@dont-email.me> Tweed wrote:
>
>>>The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>
>>I have a Roku box and separate TV and amp, gives me the best of all
>>worlds (and saves me £57 a month to Sky) with the ability to
>>update/replace discrete units as needed.
>
>Interesting, I can see the logic.
>
>Not trying to pick holes, I'm interested as to what's possible I
>presume that you cannot get Sky specific progs and channels or can
>you? Sky F1, Alibi, Black List etc..
>
>Thanks.
>
>Bob.

I subscribe to "NOW" (to be distinguished from Now TV, a bit confusing)
which gives many of the Sky channels. £4.99 per month in intro period then
£9.99 for the entertainment pack - I'm not interested in sports or films.
Provides things like Atlantic, Alibi etc. I also subscribe to Apple TV for
a similar price to watch the adaptation of Asimov's "Foundation" but I
don't watch anything else on that so will cancel when the series finishes.

I also have a Freesat box and the DVD player does Freeview.

I usually try to find something interesting then fall asleep on the settee
:-)

--
Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK
All things being equal, fat people use more soap

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:18 UTC

Tweed wrote:

> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
> available to buy in the UK from 18 October

Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:20 UTC

Indy Jess John wrote:

> Tweed wrote:
>
>> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>
> And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you can't
> watch anything but Sky.

You're as cynical as me, but actually the manual shows it does have one.

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 by: Mark Carver - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:27 UTC

On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
> Tweed wrote:
>
>> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
>> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
>> available to buy in the UK from 18 October
>
> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...

It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview
LCNs, and only 'Now&Next' programme data.

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 10:29 UTC

In article <xn0n3vwslurbv7602a@news.individual.net>,
Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I subscribe to "NOW" (to be distinguished from Now TV, a bit
> confusing) which gives many of the Sky channels. £4.99 per month
> in intro period then £9.99 for the entertainment pack - I'm not
> interested in sports or films. Provides things like Atlantic,
> Alibi etc. I also subscribe to Apple TV for a similar price to
> watch the adaptation of Asimov's "Foundation" but I don't watch
> anything else on that so will cancel when the series finishes.

> I also have a Freesat box and the DVD player does Freeview.

Very informative, thanks.

> I usually try to find something interesting then fall asleep on the
> settee
> :-)

Yes, been there.

Cheers,

Bob.

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:15 UTC

In article <isakopF907iU1@mid.individual.net>,
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Tweed wrote:
> >
> >> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi,
> >> with no satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV
> >> from Sky is available to buy in the UK from 18 October
> >
> > Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...

> It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview
> LCNs, and only 'Now&Next' programme data.

I can see why they might wish to only supply DVB-T but to actually
do it is shocking. What an awful thing to do.

I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
illegal for some time. Yes, there may be some circumstances where T2
isn't required but the extra cost must be minimal now if it exists at
all.

Bob.

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:21 UTC

Bob Latham wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>
> I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
> illegal for some time.

I just meant DVB-T as a generic for -T1 or -T2, it doesn't say which, but given
they've fitted one at all, I'd expect it's -T2

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 by: Mark Carver - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:38 UTC

On 08/10/2021 12:21, Andy Burns wrote:
> Bob Latham wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>
>> I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
>> illegal for some time.
>
> I just meant DVB-T as a generic for -T1 or -T2, it doesn't say which,
> but given they've fitted one at all, I'd expect it's -T2
Yes, that's how I interrupted your use of 'T'.

It has to have a tuner, otherwise if you lose your internet connection
the TV becomes nothing more than a very expensive flat panel lamp.

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:50 UTC

In article <isanumF9k24U1@mid.individual.net>,
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham wrote:

> > Andy Burns wrote:
> >
> >> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
> >
> > I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
> > illegal for some time.

> I just meant DVB-T as a generic for -T1 or -T2, it doesn't say
> which, but given they've fitted one at all, I'd expect it's -T2

Oh right sorry.

This lends weight to my argument against the pedants that insist it's
T and T1, correct unfortunately but more open to misunderstanding.

Bob.

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 11:52 UTC

In article <59782c6007bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> it's T and not T1,
^^^
> Bob.

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From: chr...@cdixon.me.uk (Chris J Dixon)
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 by: Chris J Dixon - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:15 UTC

Mark Carver wrote:

>On 08/10/2021 09:52, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 08/10/2021 07:52, Tweed wrote:
>>> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>>
>> And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you
>> can't watch anything but Sky.
>
>It almost  certainly DOES have an aerial socket according to this, and a
>photo, but the whole scheme and business model is to lock you into the
>Skyuniverse, so for all of use in here not scared by wires, dishes, HDMI
>leads etc  it's not for us.
>
>https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/sky-glass-4k-streaming-tv-hands-on/

Are "broadcasters" (or should it be "content providers"?) trying
to move us towards streaming only, which then prevent us skipping
adverts?

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

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 by: JNugent - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:17 UTC

On 08/10/2021 12:38 pm, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 12:21, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Bob Latham wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>>
>>> I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
>>> illegal for some time.
>>
>> I just meant DVB-T as a generic for -T1 or -T2, it doesn't say which,
>> but given they've fitted one at all, I'd expect it's -T2
> Yes, that's how I interrupted your use of 'T'.
>
> It has to have a tuner, otherwise if you lose your internet connection
> the TV becomes nothing more than a very expensive flat panel lamp.

On the other hand...

....as long as you don't watch anything via the aerial (or from the BBC
via iPlayer), you don't have to pay the BBC licence.

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 by: tim... - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:19 UTC

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 08/10/2021 09:52, Indy Jess John wrote:
>> On 08/10/2021 07:52, Tweed wrote:
>>> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>>
>> And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you
>> can't watch anything but Sky.
>
> It almost certainly DOES have an aerial socket according to this, and a
> photo, but the whole scheme and business model is to lock you into the
> Skyuniverse, so for all of use in here not scared by wires, dishes, HDMI
> leads etc it's not for us.

I can't believe that the quantity of wires needed to plug in a standard
TV+STB scares the vast majority of consumers

I accept that the dish on the wall may be a step that they cannot undertake
without help, but there's nothing here that couldn't be offered by sky with
a bespoke STB to plug into your existing TV at half the cost

But, of course, that wouldn't be a big enough incentive to lock people in.

Personally, I can see how they can justify the entry level £26 for the
"entertainment" package given that 80% of the output is the same as the FV
FTA channels. At least with the current package at that price they supply
you with a recording device which this new box doesn't provide

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 by: tim... - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:21 UTC

"Chris J Dixon" <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
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> Mark Carver wrote:
>
>>On 08/10/2021 09:52, Indy Jess John wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2021 07:52, Tweed wrote:
>>>> The first TV with Sky inside. No dish, no box, no fuss.
>>>
>>> And almost certainly no aerial input, so that having opted for it you
>>> can't watch anything but Sky.
>>
>>It almost certainly DOES have an aerial socket according to this, and a
>>photo, but the whole scheme and business model is to lock you into the
>>Skyuniverse, so for all of use in here not scared by wires, dishes, HDMI
>>leads etc it's not for us.
>>
>>https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/sky-glass-4k-streaming-tv-hands-on/
>
> Are "broadcasters" (or should it be "content providers"?) trying
> to move us towards streaming only, which then prevent us skipping
> adverts?

Government seems to be driving that because they want to sell off TV
bandwidth to people who will pay more for it

Fortunately the capacity of the internet backbone can't support 60 million
people all wanting to watch a different program at the same time, so
hopefully I will be dead before they achieve it

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 by: tim... - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:25 UTC

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Tweed wrote:
>>
>>> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
>>> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
>>> available to buy in the UK from 18 October
>>
>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>
> It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview LCNs,
> and only 'Now&Next' programme data.

I almost never use the tuners on my TV almost always using the ones on my
STB plugged in via HDMI.

I can't see why I wont be able to use this TV in that mode

I accept that this give me the inconvenience of having 2 remotes (one to
change channel, one for the sound). Oh dear, what a faff that is, I really
must buy myself a crippled TV to avoid that in future

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 by: Norman Wells - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 13:09 UTC

On 08/10/2021 13:17, JNugent wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 12:38 pm, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 08/10/2021 12:21, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Bob Latham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>>>
>>>> I think that selling new TVs that have no DVB-T2 should have been
>>>> illegal for some time.
>>>
>>> I just meant DVB-T as a generic for -T1 or -T2, it doesn't say which,
>>> but given they've fitted one at all, I'd expect it's -T2
>> Yes, that's how I interrupted your use of 'T'.
>>
>> It has to have a tuner, otherwise if you lose your internet connection
>> the TV becomes nothing more than a very expensive flat panel lamp.
>
> On the other hand...
>
> ...as long as you don't watch anything via the aerial (or from the BBC
> via iPlayer), you don't have to pay the BBC licence.

That depends when you watch it and how it's delivered. Avoiding both is
a bit tricky.

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 by: Mark Carver - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 13:16 UTC

On 08/10/2021 13:25, tim... wrote:
>
>
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:isakopF907iU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Tweed wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi,
>>>> with no
>>>> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
>>>> available to buy in the UK from 18 October
>>>
>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>
>> It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview
>> LCNs, and only 'Now&Next' programme data.
>
> I almost never use the tuners on my TV almost always using the ones on
> my STB plugged in via HDMI.
>
> I can't see why I wont be able to use this TV in that mode
>
You will, but the telly is aimed at people who don't what any clutter
attached to their telly. If your broadband drops out you're stuffed
without a back up DTT tuner.

Reading up about the basic specs the TVs have, you'd be bonkers to sign
up, then cancel the Sky subs, and use it as just a screen

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Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 08/10/2021 13:25, tim... wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:isakopF907iU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>> Tweed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi,
>>>>> with no
>>>>> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
>>>>> available to buy in the UK from 18 October
>>>>
>>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>>
>>> It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview
>>> LCNs, and only 'Now&Next' programme data.
>>
>> I almost never use the tuners on my TV almost always using the ones on
>> my STB plugged in via HDMI.
>>
>> I can't see why I wont be able to use this TV in that mode
>>
> You will, but the telly is aimed at people who don't what any clutter
> attached to their telly. If your broadband drops out you're stuffed
> without a back up DTT tuner.
>
> Reading up about the basic specs the TVs have, you'd be bonkers to sign
> up, then cancel the Sky subs, and use it as just a screen
>

There seems to be rumours on the Sky community site that ad skipping might
be charged at £5/year after an initial free year.

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 by: Andrew - Fri, 8 Oct 2021 13:27 UTC

On 08/10/2021 13:25, tim... wrote:
>
>
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:isakopF907iU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On 08/10/2021 11:18, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Tweed wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the first time in the UK, you can now get Sky TV over WiFi, with no
>>>> satellite dish, no box and no fuss. The new streaming TV from Sky is
>>>> available to buy in the UK from 18 October
>>>
>>> Amazed that it has a DVB-T tuner ...
>>
>> It'll be just that I suspect, so none of the nice friendly Freeview
>> LCNs, and only 'Now&Next' programme data.
>
> I almost never use the tuners on my TV almost always using the ones on
> my STB plugged in via HDMI.
>
> I can't see why I wont be able to use this TV in that mode
>
> I accept that this give me the inconvenience of having 2 remotes (one to
> change channel, one for the sound).  Oh dear, what a faff that is, I
> really must buy myself a crippled TV to avoid that in future
>
>
>
>
Or just get a (better quality ?) 4K monitor and use that as the 'tv'?

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