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* OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingNY
|+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingR D S
||`- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingSteve Walker
||+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|||+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
||||+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingTim Streater
|||||+- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
|||||`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingChris Green
||||| `- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingFredxx
||||`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|||| `* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
||||  +* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!JNugent
||||  |`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLES Alert!!!Peter Keller
||||  | `- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLES Alert!!!Peter Keller
||||  `- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|||`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
||| +- Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
||| `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|||  `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|||   +- Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
|||   `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|||    `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|||     +* Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
|||     |`- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|||     `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|||      `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|||       +* Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
|||       |`- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|||       `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|||        `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|||         `- Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
||+- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingNY
||`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingChris Green
|| `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
||  `- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingNY
|+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingThe Natural Philosopher
||`- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingNY
|+- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingMark Carver
| +* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
| |`- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
| `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|  `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingswldx...@gmail.com
|   +* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|   |`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|   | `* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|   |  `* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|   |   `- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|   `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|    +* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingswldx...@gmail.com
|    |+- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|    |`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|    | `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingswldx...@gmail.com
|    |  +* Re: Troll-feeding Sick Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|    |  |`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|    |  | `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|    |  |  `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |   +* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Richard Cranium
|    |  |   |+* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!swldx...@gmail.com
|    |  |   ||+- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |   ||`* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Commander Kinsey
|    |  |   || `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |   ||  `* Re: Troll-feeding Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |   ||   `- Re: Troll-feeding Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|    |  |   |`* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |   | `- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|    |  |   `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  |    `- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |  `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|    |   `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingswldx...@gmail.com
|    |    +* Re: Troll-feeding Sick Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|    |    |`* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|    |    | `- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|    |    `- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|    `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJason Statham
|     `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
|      `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingPeter Keller
|       `* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
|        `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|         +* Proof Positive Cycling Is the Only SolutionBret Cahill
|         |`- Re: Proof Positive Cycling Is the Only SolutionCommander Kinsey
|         `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|          `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!JNugent
|           `* Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!!!Peter Keller
|            `- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert! LOLPeter Keller
+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
|+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingSteve Walker
||`- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingJNugent
|+- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingThe Natural Philosopher
|+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingChris Green
||`- Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingNY
|`- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Peter Keller
+* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|+- Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
|`* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
| `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingRod Speed
|  +* Re: The Two Brain Dead Inseparable Trolling Resident SociopathsPeter Keller
|  |`- Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!Peter Keller
|  `* Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speedingCommander Kinsey
`- Re: CAUTION!!! Birdbrain, the Abnormal Pathological Attention Whore,Peter Keller

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Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speeding

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speeding
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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:14 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>
>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time the
>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>
>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>
>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>
>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>
> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.

That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
possible to work out who or what is at fault.

> You or I could too.

More bullshit with plenty of accidents.

Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Cretin Alert!!!

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From: muzhm...@centrum.sk (Peter Keller)
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Subject: Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Cretin Alert!!!
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 by: Peter Keller - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:43 UTC

On 22/08/21 11:57 pm, Peeler wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:57:45 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>> On 21/08/21 10:18 pm, Peeler wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Aug 2021 20:22:12 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
>>> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>>>
>>>>> You're lucky, stinking faggot, sadly those laws have been removed! Now keep
>>>>> your FAGGOT STENCH out of straight peoples ngs, you flaming fag!
>>>>>
>>>> Thought so. Magna Carta.
>>>>
>>>> unborn cum bogle
>>>
>>> Idiot! LOL
>>>
>> Thanks greatly for the compliment.
>> Now call me a walking bag of vomit.
>> I vomit down your throat.
>>
>> Annoying jizz nugget
>
> Gay cretin! <BG>
>
Bukake herder

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 by: Peter Keller - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:44 UTC

On 23/08/21 8:07 pm, Peeler wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:14:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>
> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
> blather>
>
No I won't.

gigantic dingle bender

Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speeding

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:24 UTC

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 00:14:53 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time the
>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>
>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>
>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>
> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>
>> You or I could too.
>
> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.

Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied and made it out to be the other's fault.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 23 Aug 2021 21:31 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time the
>>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>>
>>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>>
>>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>>
>> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
>> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
>> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>>
>>> You or I could too.
>>
>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>
> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied and
> made it out to be the other's fault.

The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"

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On 24/08/21 9:37 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:31:04 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>
> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
> blather>
>
Racist puke voyeur

Re: OT: If the police don't know who was speeding

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Tue, 24 Aug 2021 15:26 UTC

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 22:31:04 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time the
>>>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>>>
>>>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>>>
>>> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
>>> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
>>> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>>>
>>>> You or I could too.
>>>
>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>
>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied and
>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>
> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"

I've been in plenty accidents!

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 24 Aug 2021 21:45 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>>>>
>>>> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
>>>> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
>>>> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>>>>
>>>>> You or I could too.
>>>>
>>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>>
>>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied
>>> and
>>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>>
>> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"
>
> I've been in plenty accidents!

And since you were the cause of all of them because you drive so
stupidly it isn't surprising that you knew who caused all of them.

And its still a pathetically inadequate sample.

Re: Dumb Gay Masochistic Little Cyclist Alert!

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 by: Peter Keller - Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:02 UTC

On 25/08/21 1:24 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 23:51:15 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>> On 24/08/21 9:37 am, Peeler wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 07:31:04 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
>>> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>>>
>>> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
>>> blather>
>>>
>> Racist puke voyeur
>
> LOL! Poor idiotic gay cyclist!
>

Tossing douche bait

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 by: Peter Keller - Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:04 UTC

On 25/08/21 10:12 am, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:45:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>
> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
> blather>
>
It is not.

flip-flopping glory bastard

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 16:30 UTC

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:45:20 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
>>>>> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
>>>>> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>>>>>
>>>>>> You or I could too.
>>>>>
>>>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>>>
>>>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied
>>>> and
>>>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>>>
>>> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"
>>
>> I've been in plenty accidents!
>
> And since you were the cause of all of them because you drive so
> stupidly it isn't surprising that you knew who caused all of them.

Lemme try to remember....
Woman reversed into the side of me in a car park. She can't claim I drove sideways.
Tractor towed me through snow at 30mph and I slid into a wall. Farmer can't claim he's sensible.
I crashed into a tractor which didn't indicate. I believe the police can tell if bulbs were on at the time.
I overtook someone in snow and crashed into a barrier. Obviously my fault.
I ran a red light I didn't know was there and hit someone on a roundabout. Clearly the council's fault for using lights and roundabout on the same junction.
Two instances of me ramming the back of someone who'd stopped, and two instances of others ramming the back of me. Clearly the guy at the back is to blame.

> And its still a pathetically inadequate sample.

It's enough to show it's normally provable.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 31 Aug 2021 21:16 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the UK, if John lends his car to Barry, and Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks the speed limit (fixed camera, not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policeman),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John gets the ticket as it's his car reg, and says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was driving, but Barry denies it, and the camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not take a photo of the driver, who gets fined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trivially fixed by videoing Barry driving off in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of having surveillance cameras at your drive etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or a decent dashcam that records who is driving.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But what if you trusted Barry?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that stupid, I know everyone manages to fuck up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I would want to have the evidence to make him pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckup wrecks the car or ends up with me being fined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you might assume it's a 1 in 1000 chance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know its much more likely than that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even with the most anal person I know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even I don't get caught every 1000 times I drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't mean caught, I meant fucking up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We were discussing you receiving a fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I included wrecking my car later. Might as well cover both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If he speeds and doesn't get caught, it doesn't concern you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if he has an accident it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He can't very well deny that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He can deny that he was at fault without the camera footage
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then there is nothing you can do about that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Much more difficult than saying "I wasn't in the car at the time
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> camera flashed".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Normally it's clear who caused an accident.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then why do the police investigate the scene of an accident?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They don't here unless someone is injured.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point is when they do they can easily work out what happened.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's bullshit. We and NZ have reality TV doco series
>>>>>> that show them doing what they do and often it isn't
>>>>>> possible to work out who or what is at fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You or I could too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied
>>>>> and
>>>>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>>>>
>>>> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"
>>>
>>> I've been in plenty accidents!
>>
>> And since you were the cause of all of them because you drive so
>> stupidly it isn't surprising that you knew who caused all of them.

> Lemme try to remember....

Yeah, nightly blotto and drug crazed will be a problem with that.

> Woman reversed into the side of me in a car park. She can't claim I drove
> sideways.
> Tractor towed me through snow at 30mph and I slid into a wall. Farmer
> can't claim he's sensible.
> I crashed into a tractor which didn't indicate. I believe the police can
> tell if bulbs were on at the time.
> I overtook someone in snow and crashed into a barrier. Obviously my
> fault.
> I ran a red light I didn't know was there and hit someone on a roundabout.
> Clearly the council's fault for using lights and roundabout on the same
> junction.
> Two instances of me ramming the back of someone who'd stopped, and two
> instances of others ramming the back of me. Clearly the guy at the back
> is to blame.


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 by: Peter Keller - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:26 UTC

On 1/09/21 09:51, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 07:16:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>
> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
> blather>
>
They are allowed to.

Bearded force fucker

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:27 UTC

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:16:31 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> You or I could too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have lied
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>>>>>
>>>>> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"
>>>>
>>>> I've been in plenty accidents!
>>>
>>> And since you were the cause of all of them because you drive so
>>> stupidly it isn't surprising that you knew who caused all of them.
>
>> Lemme try to remember....
>
> Yeah, nightly blotto and drug crazed will be a problem with that.

There's 46 years of memories in there.

>> Woman reversed into the side of me in a car park. She can't claim I drove
>> sideways.
>> Tractor towed me through snow at 30mph and I slid into a wall. Farmer
>> can't claim he's sensible.
>> I crashed into a tractor which didn't indicate. I believe the police can
>> tell if bulbs were on at the time.
>> I overtook someone in snow and crashed into a barrier. Obviously my
>> fault.
>> I ran a red light I didn't know was there and hit someone on a roundabout.
>> Clearly the council's fault for using lights and roundabout on the same
>> junction.
>> Two instances of me ramming the back of someone who'd stopped, and two
>> instances of others ramming the back of me. Clearly the guy at the back
>> is to blame.
>
> Only a fucked driver would have had that many accidents.

No, a driver who isn't overly careful. A collision isn't the end of the world.

>>> And its still a pathetically inadequate sample.
>
>> It's enough to show it's normally provable.
>
> Only with a useless driver.

Irrelevant to whether or not you can twist what happened above to be the other driver's fault.

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 by: Chris Green - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 14:38 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> No, a driver who isn't overly careful. A collision isn't the end of the world.
>
A collision with an asteroid might be! :-)

--
Chris Green
ยท

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 17:44 UTC

Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> You or I could too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More bullshit with plenty of accidents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every accident I've had, there was no way either of us could have
>>>>>>> lied
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> made it out to be the other's fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The technical term for that is "pathetically inadequate sample"
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been in plenty accidents!
>>>>
>>>> And since you were the cause of all of them because you drive so
>>>> stupidly it isn't surprising that you knew who caused all of them.
>>
>>> Lemme try to remember....
>>
>> Yeah, nightly blotto and drug crazed will be a problem with that.
>
> There's 46 years of memories in there.

All of extremely stupid driving by you.

>>> Woman reversed into the side of me in a car park. She can't claim I
>>> drove
>>> sideways.
>>> Tractor towed me through snow at 30mph and I slid into a wall. Farmer
>>> can't claim he's sensible.
>>> I crashed into a tractor which didn't indicate. I believe the police
>>> can
>>> tell if bulbs were on at the time.
>>> I overtook someone in snow and crashed into a barrier. Obviously my
>>> fault.
>>> I ran a red light I didn't know was there and hit someone on a
>>> roundabout.
>>> Clearly the council's fault for using lights and roundabout on the same
>>> junction.
>>> Two instances of me ramming the back of someone who'd stopped, and two
>>> instances of others ramming the back of me. Clearly the guy at the back
>>> is to blame.

>> Only a fucked driver would have had that many accidents.

> No, a driver who isn't overly careful.

Bullshit.

> A collision isn't the end of the world.

Sure but better avoided if only because its less hassle.

>>>> And its still a pathetically inadequate sample.

>>> It's enough to show it's normally provable.

>> Only with a useless driver.

> Irrelevant to whether or not you can twist what happened above to be the
> other driver's fault.

Only because you drive so stupidly.

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 by: Peter Keller - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:23 UTC

On 2/09/21 07:41, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 03:44:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
> Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
>
>
> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
> blather>
>
You flush them if they so annoy you. You cannot tell others what to do.

Wipe piper

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 by: Peter Keller - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 09:25 UTC

On 2/09/21 03:00, Peeler wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 15:38:49 +0100, Chris Green, the mentally deficient,
> notorious, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:
>
>
>>> No, a driver who isn't overly careful. A collision isn't the end of the world.
>>>
>> A collision with an asteroid might be! :-)
>
> Trying to make a "funny", troll-feeding senile moron? But the only thing you
> did was feed the trolling attention whore! <tsk>
>
That's is what you think.

sperm wanker

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 by: Peter Keller - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:05 UTC

On 3/09/21 01:10, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 21:25:08 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>
>>>> A collision with an asteroid might be! :-)
>>>
>>> Trying to make a "funny", troll-feeding senile moron? But the only thing you
>>> did was feed the trolling attention whore! <tsk>
>>>
>> That's is what you think.
>
> It's what every intelligent person can SEE, dumb fairy cyclist!

Do you prefer pink ones or blue ones?
>
>> sperm wanker
>
> Keep your FAGGOT STENCH out of straight people's ngs, dumb gay little
> cyclist!
>

spitting shaft biscuit

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 by: Peter Keller - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 12:06 UTC

On 3/09/21 01:11, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 21:23:59 +1200, Peter Keller, the dumb gay masochistic
> little cyclist, blabbered again:
>
>
>>> <FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
>>> blather>
>>>
>> You flush them if they so annoy you. You cannot tell others what to do.
>>
> Obviously I can, you brain dead masochistic gay little cyclist!

You can try but they won't take any notice.
>
>> Wipe piper
>
> You STINK of your FAGGOTRY, Peter Keller!
>

funky glory basher

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 by: Peter Keller - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 10:31 UTC

On 4/09/21 02:07, Peeler wrote:
> <FLUSH the inevitable sick gay shit by the resident fairy cyclist>
>
Stupidity doesn't like paying taxes.

spazz lorry

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 by: Peter Keller - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 10:32 UTC

On 4/09/21 02:08, Peeler wrote:
> <FLUSH more of the inevitable sick gay shit by the resident fairy cyclist>
>
Colourful clay makes people shiver.

gag sacking bukake rag


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