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Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have guessed that.

Richard

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:59 PM UTC+1, Richard Dixon wrote:
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>
> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have guessed that.
>

yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
1 person notably absent from that list: Stokes stuck on 197 wkts after 94 tests.
Will he ever bowl again?

mike

In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>
>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>guessed that.
>>
>
>yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>1 person notably absent from that list: Stokes stuck on 197 wkts after
>94 tests.
>Will he ever bowl again?
>
>mike

I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times of
desperate need.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
<john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>
>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>guessed that.
>>>
>>
>>yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>>1 person notably absent from that list: Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>after 94 tests.
>>Will he ever bowl again?
>>
>>mike
>
>I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times of
>desperate need.

Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets this
morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling all-rounder!
Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than bowling fast-medium
would be.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
> <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>> mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>> guessed that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>> after 94 tests.
>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>
>>> mike
>>
>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times of
>> desperate need.
>
> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets this
> morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling all-rounder!
> Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than bowling fast-medium
> would be.

Tony Greig did it very successfully. His medium pace off spin was much
more penetrative than his seamers.
Steve Hague

On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
> <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>> mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>> guessed that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>> after 94 tests.
>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>
>>> mike
>>
>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times of
>> desperate need.
>
> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets this
> morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling all-rounder!
> Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than bowling fast-medium
> would be.
I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
quality writer in my opinion.

In message <ki1hh5F4gecU2@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
>On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
>><john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>>
>>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>>>guessed that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>>>after 94 tests.
>>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>
>>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times
>>>of desperate need.
>> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
>>this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
>>all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
>>bowling fast-medium would be.
>
>Tony Greig did it very successfully. His medium pace off spin was much
>more penetrative than his seamers.
>Steve Hague

And Maurice Tate did it in the opposite direction.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <ki1hoqF4gecU3@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
>On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
>><john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>>
>>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>>>guessed that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
>>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>>>after 94 tests.
>>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>
>>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times
>>>of desperate need.
>> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
>>this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
>>all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
>>bowling fast-medium would be.
>I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
>quality writer in my opinion.

I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer. But any
influence on what I wrote above was subconscious, and I confess I can't
see what you're alluding to.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

On 22/07/2023 10:13, John Hall wrote:
> In message <ki1hoqF4gecU3@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
> <stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
>> On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
>>> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
>>> <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>>>> guessed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded
>>>>> up.
>>>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>>>> after 94 tests.
>>>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times
>>>> of  desperate need.
>>>  Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
>>> this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
>>> all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
>>> bowling fast-medium would be.
>> I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
>> quality writer in my opinion.
>
> I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
> science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer. But any
> influence on what I wrote above was subconscious, and I confess I can't
> see what you're alluding to.

That would be the quote in your signature. It looks like Steve is using
Thunderbird, which automatically snips at least some signatures when
replying.

--
David North

On 22/07/2023 10:13, John Hall wrote:
> In message <ki1hoqF4gecU3@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
> <stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
>> On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
>>> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
>>> <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> writes
>>>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1-8eeb-86dc1bfac73bn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
>>>>>> guessed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded
>>>>> up.
>>>>> 1 person notably absent from that list:  Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
>>>>> after 94 tests.
>>>>> Will he ever bowl again?
>>>>>
>>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times
>>>> of  desperate need.
>>>  Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
>>> this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
>>> all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
>>> bowling fast-medium would be.
>> I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
>> quality writer in my opinion.
>
> I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
> science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer. But any
> influence on what I wrote above was subconscious, and I confess I can't
> see what you're alluding to.
Your sig.

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:18:15 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> In message <ki1hoq...@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
> <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
> >On 21/07/2023 19:46, John Hall wrote:
> >> In message <DHnYqYBWokukFwbe@jhall_nospamxx.co.uk>, John Hall
> >><john_...@jhall.co.uk> writes
> >>> In message <0024c9c1-d80b-41a1...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>mike <dmik...@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 1:25:590 >>
> >>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1enms2XwAAsCVv?format=png&name=large
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interestingly Mooen there quicker than Flintoff: I wouldn't have
> >>>>>guessed that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> yes indeed, glad he did so, career figures look much better rounded up.
> >>>> 1 person notably absent from that list: Stokes stuck on 197 wkts
> >>>>after 94 tests.
> >>>> Will he ever bowl again?
> >>>>
> >>>> mike
> >>>
> >>> I think he will, but I think it will be a rarity and only in times
> >>>of desperate need.
> >> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
> >>this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
> >>all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
> >>bowling fast-medium would be.

be useful next year if hes fit enough to go to india

> >I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
> >quality writer in my opinion.
> I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
> science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer.

i think her wizard books are a lot better than the stuff JKrowing
puts out, although i've not read the book youve quoted.

mike

In message <ki1sl6F4dk7U1@mid.individual.net>, David North
<nospam@lane-farm.fsnet.co.uk> writes
>On 22/07/2023 10:13, John Hall wrote:
>> In message <ki1hoqF4gecU3@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
>><stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
<snip>
>>> I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A
>>>top quality writer in my opinion.
>> I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
>>science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer. But any
>>influence on what I wrote above was subconscious, and I confess I
>>can't see what you're alluding to.
>
>That would be the quote in your signature. It looks like Steve is using
>Thunderbird, which automatically snips at least some signatures when
>replying.
>

Ah, of course! Silly me for not thinking of that. Thanks, David.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

In message <33a1ad3c-a8fe-4e1e-ada4-cc9fe87a8811n@googlegroups.com>,
mike <dmike204@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 10:18:150 >> In message <ki1hoq...@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
>> <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
[re Ben Stokes]
>> >> Apparently he was seen bowling quite decent off-spin in the nets
>> >>this morning, so maybe he'll re-invent himself as a spin-bowling
>> >>all-rounder! Bowling spin would be a lot kinder on his knee than
>> >>bowling fast-medium would be.
>
>be useful next year if hes fit enough to go to india

I think that short of having one leg amputated there's nothing that will
stop him going!

>
>> >I'm pleased to see someone else here has read Ursula K Le Guin. A top
>> >quality writer in my opinion.
>> I have read her - all of her Earthsea books as well as some of her
>> science fiction - and I agree that she was a brilliant writer.
>
>i think her wizard books are a lot better than the stuff JKrowing
>puts out, although i've not read the book youve quoted.

I agree - not that Rowling's books aren't good, but Le Guin's are
superb.

"The Beginning Place" was I think the title when it was released in the
US, whereas in the UK it was retitled "Threshold" for some reason. It's
a fantasy novel that was marketed as for "young adults", though none the
worse for that, as the same applies to at least the early Earthsea books
of course.

I've read it and it's very good, though I didn't get the quote from
reading it but from a list of quotes on some website or other.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"