"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message
news:irna3iFhiivU2@mid.individual.net...
> Fair to middlin'
>
> (that means, I have a terminal disease)

Where my parents have a holiday cottage in Wensleydale, the equivalent term
is "moderate", as in "I've been reet moderate - I had to go see the doctor".
It signifies "I've given it a month, but this isn't going to go away by
itself with a bit of help from granny's folk remedies, so I need to get it
looked at".

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:35:00 +0100, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

> Plus also the circuits to the Multiplex HQ as you describe it.

HD capable...

> Although I think that bit was done this summer, (as was
> physically moving the opt switch from the regions to HQ. The switch is
> still controlled from the region)

....as part of this.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:37:14 +0100, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>>I've seen nothing else about this anywhere so is there any truth at
>>all in this or is it just another 'sensation' article...
>>
>>October 21st it says but doesn't mention a year. :-)
>>
>>https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1497377/BBC-Will-Finally-Solve-The-Biggest-Headache-Of-Watching-TV-in-High-Definition-HD-1080p
>>
>>Bob.
>
> Perhaps they've spent too much money on six digit salaries for the
> executives and presenters to have anything left to spend on
> engineering the system so that it works as it should.

Perhaps they ought to cut your pension instead, given that you seem to
want to rubbish everything about them.

> In any case I've long ago ceased to care about this

Clearly not, as you are always looking for every opportunity to put
the boot in.
Countless times you've re-posted the same old bigoted stuff.
Maybe it's senility setting in.

On 30/09/2021 08:11, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 29/09/2021 09:38, Bob Latham wrote:
>> I've seen nothing else about this anywhere so is there any truth at
>> all in this or is it just another 'sensation' article...
>>
>> October 21st it says but doesn't mention a year. :-)
>>
>> https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1497377/BBC-Will-Finally-Solve-The-Biggest-Headache-Of-Watching-TV-in-High-Definition-HD-1080p
>>
>>
> The Beeb have now finally stepped in to say it's bollocks (Although
> the Media Mole site was one of the sites spreading the speculation in
> the first place)
>
> https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertainment/broadcasting/news/hd-versions-of-bbc-ones-english-regions-still-due-in-2022_465962.html
>
>

At last, clarification from the Beeb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>

(iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by linear
platforms )

On 19/10/2021 10:51, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 30/09/2021 08:11, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 29/09/2021 09:38, Bob Latham wrote:
>>> I've seen nothing else about this anywhere so is there any truth at
>>> all in this or is it just another 'sensation' article...
>>>
>>> October 21st it says but doesn't mention a year. :-)
>>>
>>> https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1497377/BBC-Will-Finally-Solve-The-Biggest-Headache-Of-Watching-TV-in-High-Definition-HD-1080p
>>>
>>>
>> The Beeb have now finally stepped in to say it's bollocks (Although
>> the Media Mole site was one of the sites spreading the speculation in
>> the first place)
>>
>> https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertainment/broadcasting/news/hd-versions-of-bbc-ones-english-regions-still-due-in-2022_465962.html
>>
>>
>
> At last, clarification from the Beeb.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
>
>
> (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by linear
> platforms )

On 19/10/2021 10:51, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 30/09/2021 08:11, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 29/09/2021 09:38, Bob Latham wrote:
>>> I've seen nothing else about this anywhere so is there any truth at
>>> all in this or is it just another 'sensation' article...
>>>
>>> October 21st it says but doesn't mention a year. :-)
>>>
>>> https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1497377/BBC-Will-Finally-Solve-The-Biggest-Headache-Of-Watching-TV-in-High-Definition-HD-1080p
>>>
>>>
>> The Beeb have now finally stepped in to say it's bollocks (Although
>> the Media Mole site was one of the sites spreading the speculation in
>> the first place)
>>
>> https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertainment/broadcasting/news/hd-versions-of-bbc-ones-english-regions-still-due-in-2022_465962.html
>>
>>
>
> At last, clarification from the Beeb.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
>
>
> (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by linear
> platforms )

Mmmmmm.... I wonder if this is a necessary pre-requisite to COM 7 bening
closed and all the other muxes switched to DVB-T2?

Imagine the uproar if all BBC 1 SD reqgions closed and the HD opt out
red pages continued.....

On 19/10/2021 10:56, SH wrote:
> On 19/10/2021 10:51, Mark Carver wrote:
>> On 30/09/2021 08:11, Mark Carver wrote:
>>> On 29/09/2021 09:38, Bob Latham wrote:
>>>> I've seen nothing else about this anywhere so is there any truth at
>>>> all in this or is it just another 'sensation' article...
>>>>
>>>> October 21st it says but doesn't mention a year. :-)
>>>>
>>>> https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1497377/BBC-Will-Finally-Solve-The-Biggest-Headache-Of-Watching-TV-in-High-Definition-HD-1080p
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The Beeb have now finally stepped in to say it's bollocks (Although
>>> the Media Mole site was one of the sites spreading the speculation
>>> in the first place)
>>>
>>> https://amp.mediamole.co.uk/entertainment/broadcasting/news/hd-versions-of-bbc-ones-english-regions-still-due-in-2022_465962.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> At last, clarification from the Beeb.
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
>>
>>
>> (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by
>> linear platforms )
>
> Mmmmmm.... I wonder if this is a necessary pre-requisite to COM 7
> bening closed and all the other muxes switched to DVB-T2?
>
> Imagine the uproar if all BBC 1 SD reqgions closed and the HD opt out
> red pages continued.....

No, it's simply something that is literally years late.

In article <skm4nj$un2$2@dont-email.me>,
SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
> On 19/10/2021 10:51, Mark Carver wrote:

> > At last, clarification from the Beeb.
> >
> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
> >
> > <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
> >
> >
> > (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by
> > linear platforms )

> Mmmmmm.... I wonder if this is a necessary pre-requisite to COM 7
> bening closed and all the other muxes switched to DVB-T2?

> Imagine the uproar if all BBC 1 SD reqgions closed and the HD opt
> out red pages continued.....

I wish.

I fear that a swap to DVB-T2 will not happen and that COM7 will go
quietly into the night. I think the expected uproar about DVB-T1
(intended error) only kit going in the skip will mean we lose
channels from freeview. I suppose the cost of converting the
transmitters won't help either.

Bob.

Bob Latham wrote:

> I think the expected uproar about DVB-T1
> (intended error) only kit going in the skip

I suspect most T1-only kit is already in landfill, e.g. my parents had upgraded
to a HD telly, then Dad replaced that with a newer HD model.

In article <it7l57Fqbc6U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham wrote:

> > I think the expected uproar about DVB-T1 (intended error) only kit
> > going in the skip

> I suspect most T1-only kit is already in landfill, e.g. my parents had
> upgraded to a HD telly, then Dad replaced that with a newer HD model.

we certainly have a T1 only ;smart' set in the kitchen. The main set is
only about a year old.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 19/10/2021 12:11, charles wrote:
> In article <it7l57Fqbc6U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> Bob Latham wrote:
>
>>> I think the expected uproar about DVB-T1 (intended error) only kit
>>> going in the skip
>
>> I suspect most T1-only kit is already in landfill, e.g. my parents had
>> upgraded to a HD telly, then Dad replaced that with a newer HD model.
>
> we certainly have a T1 only ;smart' set in the kitchen. The main set is
> only about a year old.
>

Our bedroom TV is a CRT driven over SCART from a T1 only STB.

I dread replacing it, not least because it's in a cuddy in the built-in
furniture designed for it - roughly cubical.

OTOH we use it less than once a month.

Andy

On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 13:59:47 +0100, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 19/10/2021 12:11, charles wrote:
>> In article <it7l57Fqbc6U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
>> <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Bob Latham wrote:
>>
>>>> I think the expected uproar about DVB-T1 (intended error) only kit
>>>> going in the skip
>>
>>> I suspect most T1-only kit is already in landfill, e.g. my parents had
>>> upgraded to a HD telly, then Dad replaced that with a newer HD model.
>>
>> we certainly have a T1 only ;smart' set in the kitchen. The main set is
>> only about a year old.
>>
>
>Our bedroom TV is a CRT driven over SCART from a T1 only STB.
>
>I dread replacing it, not least because it's in a cuddy in the built-in
>furniture designed for it - roughly cubical.
>
>OTOH we use it less than once a month.

My kitchen is same but with T2 STB. I am convinced this improves
picture quality, but I may be deluding myself.

Vir Campestris wrote:

> Our bedroom TV is a CRT driven over SCART from a T1 only STB.
> I dread replacing it

Feels somewhat odd to be using Maplin URLs again

<https://www.maplin.co.uk/maplin-hdmi-to-scart-converter-adaptor-1080p-720p-includes-5v-power-supply-5026686001631>

On 19/10/2021 15:09, Andy Burns wrote:
> Vir Campestris wrote:
>
>> Our bedroom TV is a CRT driven over SCART from a T1 only STB.
>> I dread replacing it
>
> Feels somewhat odd to be using Maplin URLs again
>
> <https://www.maplin.co.uk/maplin-hdmi-to-scart-converter-adaptor-1080p-720p-includes-5v-power-supply-5026686001631>
>

Thought they had gone out of business?

SH wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Feels somewhat odd to be using Maplin URLs again
>
> Thought they had gone out of business?

Someone bought the rights to use the name (online only?)

In article <it7ipbFpsjdU1@mid.individual.net>,
Mark Carver says...

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
>
> (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by linear
> platforms )
>

This morning on Freeview from Sandy Heath and on Freesat; the cannot
show notice has changed from text on a graphic background with
countdown to a (New to me) simple white text on red screen,
First sign of the change perhaps?

Hopefully this might spur ITV to do much the same, here on the
Northants/ Rutland border, we currently get Meridian news and weather on
Freeview ITV HD.
Freesat is fine with Anglia as the main ITV offering.

--
Ken

> Hopefully this might spur ITV to do much the same, here on the
> Northants/ Rutland border, we currently get Meridian news and weather on
> Freeview ITV HD.

You would be served by either Waltham or Sandy Heath or possibly Belmont
or Sutton Coldield in that area. None of these fall into the Meridian
region.

IIRC, MNeridian is served by Hannington, Crystal Palace and Rowridge
along with their relays.

So I admit I am struggling to work out why you have Meridian unless one
transmitter has switched to a satellite based backup feed at 27.5W or 28.2E.

I know Sutton Coldfield is using a Freesat feed to broadcast Freeview HD
but that is the correct region.

S.

On 20/10/2021 07:17, Unsteadyken wrote:
> In article <it7ipbFpsjdU1@mid.individual.net>,
>
> Mark Carver says...
>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england
>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/articles/2021/bbc-one-hd-rollout-england>
>>
>> (iplayer/online streams first, followed in the coming months by linear
>> platforms )
>>
> This morning on Freeview from Sandy Heath and on Freesat; the cannot
> show notice has changed from text on a graphic background with
> countdown to a (New to me) simple white text on red screen,
> First sign of the change perhaps?
>
The new notice caption is only part of the BBC's logo rebrand, that
started today

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58970323

In article <skogus$er6$1@dont-email.me>,
SH says...

> I am struggling to work out why you have Meridian unless one
> transmitter has switched to a satellite based backup feed
>
It is Sandy Heath PSB3 and ITV HD news from there has been meridian as
long as I can remember

--
Ken

On 20/10/2021 13:53, Unsteadyken wrote:
> In article <skogus$er6$1@dont-email.me>,
>
> SH says...
>
>> I am struggling to work out why you have Meridian unless one
>> transmitter has switched to a satellite based backup feed
>>
> It is Sandy Heath PSB3 and ITV HD news from there has been meridian as
> long as I can remember
>
>
Yes, on DTT the Meridian South East version of ITV HD is carried on all
Meridian and Anglia transmitters.

It's only on D-Sat where you get the (one of five) correct ITV sub
regions in HD in those two regions