Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:

<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

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Google to end Usenet support. My pet rock Gordon just cheered.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

On 15/12/2023 11:54, Sn!pe wrote:
> Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:
>
> <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
>
Hurrah!.
Well that should save a few terra bytes of bandwidth.

--
Nev
It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 15/12/2023 11:54, Sn!pe wrote:
> > Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:
> >
> > <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
> >
>
> Hurrah!.
> Well that should save a few terra bytes of bandwidth.
>

If anyshedi has a pet poaster or two who use GG [spit],
they might need their hands to be held while they
venture forth onto the choppy waters of Usenet proper.

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<snipeco.1@gmail.com>
Google to end Usenet gateway - My pet rock Gordon just cheered.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:11:04 +0000,
snipeco.2@Use.Reply-To.Address.invalid (Sn!pe) wrote:

>nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 15/12/2023 11:54, Sn!pe wrote:
>> > Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:
>> >
>> > <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
>> >
>>
>> Hurrah!.
>> Well that should save a few terra bytes of bandwidth.
>>
>
>If anyshedi has a pet poaster or two who use GG [spit],
>they might need their hands to be held while they
>venture forth onto the choppy waters of Usenet proper.
>

My strong recommendations would be :

1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
2. Astraweb for usenet feed

I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
have never had any problems.
Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
- when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
Eternal September so frequently.
John T.

On 15/12/2023 14:48, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:11:04 +0000,
> snipeco.2@Use.Reply-To.Address.invalid (Sn!pe) wrote:
>
>> nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/12/2023 11:54, Sn!pe wrote:
>>>> Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:
>>>>
>>>> <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hurrah!.
>>> Well that should save a few terra bytes of bandwidth.
>>>
>>
>> If anyshedi has a pet poaster or two who use GG [spit],
>> they might need their hands to be held while they
>> venture forth onto the choppy waters of Usenet proper.
>>
>
>
> My strong recommendations would be :
>
> 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
> 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
>
> I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
> have never had any problems.
> Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
> charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
> binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
> - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
> Eternal September so frequently.
> John T.
>
The main problem for those participating via phone or tablet is finding
a news reader.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 15/12/2023 14:48, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:11:04 +0000,
> > snipeco.2@Use.Reply-To.Address.invalid (Sn!pe) wrote:
> >
> >> nev young <newsforpasiphae1953@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 15/12/2023 11:54, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>>> Google Groups to de-peer from Usenet:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hurrah!.
> >>> Well that should save a few terra bytes of bandwidth.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If anyshedi has a pet poaster or two who use GG [spit],
> >> they might need their hands to be held while they
> >> venture forth onto the choppy waters of Usenet proper.
> >>
> >
> >
> > My strong recommendations would be :
> >
> > 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
> > 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
> >
> > I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
> > have never had any problems.
> > Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
> > charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
> > binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
> > - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
> > Eternal September so frequently.
> > John T.
> >
>
> The main problem for those participating via phone or tablet is finding
> a news reader.
>

NewsTap for iDevices, from the App Store. (also works on macOS)

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<snipeco.1@gmail.com>
Google to end Usenet gateway - My pet rock Gordon just cheered.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@
4ax.com:

>
> My strong recommendations would be :
>
> 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
> 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
>
> I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
> have never had any problems.
> Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
> charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
> binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
> - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
> Eternal September so frequently.

I've been using Xnews, also for decades. Very simple, very basic, just wot
I needs, innit.

I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.

--
Peter
-----

On 15/12/2023 17:17, Peter wrote:

> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>
All of usenet has been somewhat unreliable lately due to a torrent of
spam which appears to originate in Thailand,going by the alphabet used.

Even NIN has been affected.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 15/12/2023 17:17, Peter wrote:
> hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@
> 4ax.com:
>
>>
>> My strong recommendations would be :
>>
>> 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
>> 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
>>
>> I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
>> have never had any problems.
>> Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
>> charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
>> binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
>> - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
>> Eternal September so frequently.
>
> I've been using Xnews, also for decades. Very simple, very basic, just wot
> I needs, innit.
>
> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>

I use Thunderbird (old version 52.2.1) mainly because some of my
add-ons (mainly Thunderbrowse) aren't available on newer versions.
I, too, have had no problems with ES. As you say, it just keeps working.

--
Chris Elvidge, England
BAGMAN, IS NOT A LEGITIMATE CAREER CHOICE

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 18:31:17 +0000, Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net>
wrote:

>On 15/12/2023 17:17, Peter wrote:
>> hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@
>> 4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> My strong recommendations would be :
>>>
>>> 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
>>> 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
>>>
>>> I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
>>> have never had any problems.
>>> Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
>>> charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
>>> binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
>>> - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
>>> Eternal September so frequently.
>>
>> I've been using Xnews, also for decades. Very simple, very basic, just wot
>> I needs, innit.
>>
>> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>>
>
>I use Thunderbird (old version 52.2.1) mainly because some of my
>add-ons (mainly Thunderbrowse) aren't available on newer versions.
>I, too, have had no problems with ES. As you say, it just keeps working.

OK - my snap-judgement was just based on mostly this group
where it seems like someone is questioning ES feed
every month or two - I guess it's other issues.
John T.

Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:
> On 15/12/2023 17:17, Peter wrote:
>> hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@
>> 4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> My strong recommendations would be :
>>>
>>> 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
>>> 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
>>>
>>> I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
>>> have never had any problems.
>>> Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
>>> charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
>>> binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
>>> - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
>>> Eternal September so frequently.
>>
>> I've been using Xnews, also for decades. Very simple, very basic, just wot
>> I needs, innit.
>>
>> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>>
>
> I use Thunderbird (old version 52.2.1) mainly because some of my
> add-ons (mainly Thunderbrowse) aren't available on newer versions.
> I, too, have had no problems with ES. As you say, it just keeps working.
>

Except when it doesn’t. Rarely a week goes by without a “Is ES down?”
message. Okay, maybe a slight exaggeration and I accept that it’s great
value for money but NIN isn’t likely to break anyone’s bank and is way more
reliable.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:

> hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@
> 4ax.com:
>
> >
> > My strong recommendations would be :
> >
> > 1. Forte Agent as a newsreader
> > 2. Astraweb for usenet feed
> >
> > I've been happily using Agent < Free Agent > for decades and
> > have never had any problems.
> > Astraweb sells blocks of "bandwidth" rather than monthly
> > charges ; my $ 10. lasts me several years and includes some
> > binary groups ; also the feed seems quite problem-free -
> > - when I compare it to problems that seem to plague
> > Eternal September so frequently.
> >
>
> I've been using Xnews, also for decades. Very simple, very basic, just wot
> I needs, innit.
>
> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>

Ditto. I dare say that some E-S users can be a trifle impatient if the
server occasionally becomes unresponsive. AFAICS it's usually a
component of the service that has become wedged and needs to
be restarted. Often, all that is needed is a kick from the admin, Ray,
whose attention is not unlimited. He surely has other responsibilities
to deal with.

A little patience from users would not go amiss, rather than yelling
"The very useful free service which I like to use is broken ~again~".
If not, I'm sure that Ray would gladly refund them.

For those who do appreciate E-S and Ray's efforts, there is a Pay Pal
Donate button on the website. <https://www.eternal-september.org>
It helps to pay for the server hosting service.

--
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<snipeco.1@gmail.com>
Google to end Usenet gateway - My pet rock Gordon just cheered.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

On 15/12/2023 19:58, Sn!pe wrote:
> Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in news:r7ponipels9slqe83oru6i43cnddbml67t@

>>
>> I haven't had any problems with ES. Just keeps working here.
>>
>
> Ditto. I dare say that some E-S users can be a trifle impatient if the
> server occasionally becomes unresponsive. AFAICS it's usually a
> component of the service that has become wedged and needs to
> be restarted. Often, all that is needed is a kick from the admin, Ray,
> whose attention is not unlimited. He surely has other responsibilities
> to deal with.
>
> A little patience from users would not go amiss, rather than yelling
> "The very useful free service which I like to use is broken ~again~".
> If not, I'm sure that Ray would gladly refund them.
>
> For those who do appreciate E-S and Ray's efforts, there is a Pay Pal
> Donate button on the website. <https://www.eternal-september.org>
> It helps to pay for the server hosting service.

Yes, dun that.

Thunderbox and ES here. Usually no probs, and I don't see much spam either.

Tone
>

Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:

[...]

> > For those who do appreciate E-S and Ray's efforts, there is a Pay Pal
> > Donate button on the website. <https://www.eternal-september.org>
> > It helps to pay for the server hosting service.
> >
>
> Yes, dun that.
>
> Thunderbox and ES here. Usually no probs, and I don't see much spam either.
>
> Tone
>

Ray and some other independent server operators are jbexvat yvxr fgvax
to contain the current plague of Googlespam. It's very much a game of
whack-a-mole. You'd be seeing a ~awful~ lot more spam if they weren't
putting many hours into that thankless task.

--
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<snipeco.1@gmail.com>
Google to end Usenet gateway - My pet rock Gordon just cheered.
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538>

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 21:47:26 +0000,
snipeco.2@Use.Reply-To.Address.invalid (Sn!pe) wrote:

>Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> > For those who do appreciate E-S and Ray's efforts, there is a Pay Pal
>> > Donate button on the website. <https://www.eternal-september.org>
>> > It helps to pay for the server hosting service.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, dun that.
>>
>> Thunderbox and ES here. Usually no probs, and I don't see much spam either.
>>
>> Tone
>>
>
>Ray and some other independent server operators are jbexvat yvxr fgvax
>to contain the current plague of Googlespam. It's very much a game of
>whack-a-mole. You'd be seeing a ~awful~ lot more spam if they weren't
>putting many hours into that thankless task.
>

Of my 5 or 6 active groups - all but 1 are back to normal -
ie no gg spam. but the woodworking group is now getting
over a thousand per day .. I'm not sure why it is so special.
It takes me ~ 2 seconds to scan the headers for legit posts
then it's literally 2 mouse clicks to purge it all.
John T.

On 15/12/2023 21:47, Sn!pe wrote:
> Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> For those who do appreciate E-S and Ray's efforts, there is a Pay Pal
>>> Donate button on the website. <https://www.eternal-september.org>
>>> It helps to pay for the server hosting service.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, dun that.
>>
>> Thunderbox and ES here. Usually no probs, and I don't see much spam either.
>>
>> Tone
>>
>
> Ray and some other independent server operators are jbexvat yvxr fgvax
> to contain the current plague of Googlespam. It's very much a game of
> whack-a-mole. You'd be seeing a ~awful~ lot more spam if they weren't
> putting many hours into that thankless task.
>

I appreciate the effort and the service. That's why I donated.

And all that just so I can stay in touch with you lot! I must be barmy!

Tone

Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote in news:ulijet$233ce$1@dont-email.me:

> I appreciate the effort and the service. That's why I donated.

Likewise

> And all that just so I can stay in touch with you lot! I must be
> barmy!

Coincidence, I was just thinking the same about you.

--
Peter
-----

On 16/12/2023 09:50, Peter wrote:
> Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote in news:ulijet$233ce$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> I appreciate the effort and the service. That's why I donated.
>
> Likewise
>
>> And all that just so I can stay in touch with you lot! I must be
>> barmy!
>
> Coincidence, I was just thinking the same about you.
>

Ha!

Tone

In article <ulk4g8$2dcal$1@dont-email.me>, Hymermut <tone@email.com> on
Sat, 16 Dec 2023 at 12:17:11 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 16/12/2023 09:50, Peter wrote:
>> Hymermut <tone@email.com> wrote in news:ulijet$233ce$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> I appreciate the effort and the service. That's why I donated.
>>
>> Likewise
>>
>>> And all that just so I can stay in touch with you lot! I must be
>>> barmy!
>>
>> Coincidence, I was just thinking the same about you.
>>
>
>
>Ha!
>
>Tone
It provides my moments of (In)sanity during the day (or late at night?).
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