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SubjectAuthor
* Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
+- Re: Virus WarningsAdrian Caspersz
+* Re: Virus WarningsAbandoned_Trolley
|`* Re: Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
| `* Re: Virus WarningsVir Campestris
|  `- Re: Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
`* Re: Virus WarningsMax Collisions
 +* Re: Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
 |`* Re: Virus WarningsSteve Hough
 | `* Re: Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
 |  `* Re: Virus WarningsAndy Burns
 |   `* Re: Virus WarningsJeff Gaines
 |    `- Re: Virus WarningsSteve Hough
 `- Re: Virus WarningsPhilip Herlihy

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Virus Warnings

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From: jgaines_...@yahoo.co.uk (Jeff Gaines)
Newsgroups: uk.comp.homebuilt
Subject: Virus Warnings
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 07:47 UTC

Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender has found the following,
probably planted by Putin:

JGTaskManager - a program I have written in Visual Studio as a To Do
manager.

Speccy Installer

PowerISO Installer

Donkey Kong

Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe

ariskkey.exe

Nirsoft Produkey

And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Those are my principles – and if you don’t like them, well, I have others.
(Groucho Marx)

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 by: Adrian Caspersz - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 10:28 UTC

On 10/09/2022 08:47, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender has found the following,
> probably planted by Putin:
>
> JGTaskManager - a program I have written in Visual Studio as a To Do
> manager.
>
> Speccy Installer
>
> PowerISO Installer
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe
>
> ariskkey.exe
>
> Nirsoft Produkey
>

False positives? Can you turn Heuristics off, and try again?

> And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.
>

Windows is popular. Low hanging fruit and all that ;->

--
Adrian C

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:30 UTC

On 10/09/2022 08:47, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
> Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender has found the following,
> probably planted by Putin:
>
> JGTaskManager - a program I have written in Visual Studio as a To Do
> manager.
>
> Speccy Installer
>
> PowerISO Installer
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe
>
> ariskkey.exe
>
> Nirsoft Produkey
>
> And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.
>

Apart from stuff written for the WPF I think every program I have ever
written (writted ?) has been found to be a virus.

But if you hate Windows so much then why are you using Visual Studio ?

--
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Mon, 12 Sep 2022 09:07 UTC

On 10/09/2022 in message <tfi72i$1fd8l$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley
wrote:

>Apart from stuff written for the WPF I think every program I have ever
>written (writted ?) has been found to be a virus.
>
>But if you hate Windows so much then why are you using Visual Studio ?

I don't hate Windows, W2K was brilliant, it's W10 that seems to cause the
problems.

I use Visual Studio as it's one of the best IDEs around, designed by the
chap who designed Borland's IDEs - they WERE the best tools around by a
million miles.

VS2022, which I have on a test machine, has exactly the same bugs as
VS2008 but has many more pop up windows which seem to be trying to guess
what I'm trying to do. It is prettier though but doesn't allow the use of
the Fixedsys font which is the choice of many programmers.

I decide one program I am working on would benefit from MDI windows. The
child windows look like Win XP, a point raised on many forums and ignored
by MSFT. One good point though, I can tile windows vertically or
horizontally because in those days it was assumed user knew what the words
meant and didn't need "side by side" or whatever the other option is
nowadays.

Sorry, rant over, I still have the option of Win 8.1 that would treat me
as semi literate at least.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I take full responsibility for what happened - that is why the person that
was responsible went immediately.
(Gordon Brown, April 2009)

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 by: Vir Campestris - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:06 UTC

On 12/09/2022 10:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> I use Visual Studio as it's one of the best IDEs around

I haven't programmed for Windows in 10 years - forced away by
redundancy, and don't miss it except just occasionally there's some odd
tool that is Windows only - but I second that. I _do_ miss Visual
Studio. To the extent that I used VS Code exclusively as an editor, even
though it didn't support my tool chain.

I'm surprised by your false positives. When I was writing Windows stuff
I hardly ever had a trigger. I'm really surprised it hadn't seen Donkey
Kong before!

Andy

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Mon, 3 Oct 2022 21:37 UTC

On 03/10/2022 in message <thffbi$2abg1$1@dont-email.me> Vir Campestris
wrote:

>On 12/09/2022 10:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>I use Visual Studio as it's one of the best IDEs around
>
>I haven't programmed for Windows in 10 years - forced away by redundancy,
>and don't miss it except just occasionally there's some odd tool that is
>Windows only - but I second that. I do miss Visual Studio. To the extent
>that I used VS Code exclusively as an editor, even though it didn't
>support my tool chain.
>
>I'm surprised by your false positives. When I was writing Windows stuff I
>hardly ever had a trigger. I'm really surprised it hadn't seen Donkey Kong
>before!
>
>Andy

I assumed it was a recent update to defender, in the end it became
unusable so I went back to 8.1 which has been fine.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
640k ought to be enough for anyone.
(Bill Gates, 1981)

Re: Virus Warnings

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 by: Max Collisions - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 01:08 UTC

On Saturday, 10 September 2022 at 08:47:21 UTC+1, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender has found the following,
> probably planted by Putin:
>
> JGTaskManager - a program I have written in Visual Studio as a To Do
> manager.
>
> Speccy Installer
>
> PowerISO Installer
>
> Donkey Kong
>
> Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe
>
> ariskkey.exe
>
> Nirsoft Produkey
>
> And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
> Those are my principles – and if you don’t like them, well, I have others.
> (Groucho Marx)
Are you are moron ?

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 08:38 UTC

On 09/12/2022 in message
<9d76697c-c86f-4b17-9ec3-396eeff4c683n@googlegroups.com> Max Collisions
wrote:

>On Saturday, 10 September 2022 at 08:47:21 UTC+1, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender has found the following,
>>probably planted by Putin:
>>
>>JGTaskManager - a program I have written in Visual Studio as a To Do
>>manager.
>>
>>Speccy Installer
>>
>>PowerISO Installer
>>
>>Donkey Kong
>>
>>Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe
>>
>>ariskkey.exe
>>
>>Nirsoft Produkey
>>
>>And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.
>>
>>--
>>Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
>>Those are my principles – and if you don’t like them, well, I have
>>others.
>>(Groucho Marx)
>Are you are moron ?

I don't think so but, others may have different views.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

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 by: Steve Hough - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 10:54 UTC

Jeff Gaines presented the following explanation :
> On 09/12/2022 in message
> <9d76697c-c86f-4b17-9ec3-396eeff4c683n@googlegroups.com>
> Max Collisions wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, 10 September 2022 at 08:47:21
>> UTC+1, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>>Warning, imminent threat of death, Defender
>>> has found the following,
>>>probably planted by Putin:
>>>
>>>JGTaskManager - a program I have written in
>>> Visual Studio as a To Do
>>>manager.
>>>
>>>Speccy Installer
>>>
>>>PowerISO Installer
>>>
>>>Donkey Kong
>>>
>>>Iolo SystemMechanic6.exe
>>>
>>>ariskkey.exe
>>>
>>>Nirsoft Produkey
>>>
>>>And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so
>>> much.
>>>
>>>-- Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
>>>Those are my principles – and if you don’t
>>> like them, well, I have others.
>>>(Groucho Marx)
>>Are you are moron ?
>
> I don't think so but, others may have different
> views.

Nirsoft products trigger warnings on a few AV
programs, certainly including the Bitdefender I
use, so not just limited to W10. Why not turn off
defender and use something else?

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 11:57 UTC

On 09/12/2022 in message <tmv442$14p6n$1@dont-email.me> Steve Hough wrote:

>>>>And people wonder why I hate Windows 10 so much.

>>>Are you are moron ?

>>I don't think so but, others may have different views.
>
>Nirsoft products trigger warnings on a few AV programs, certainly
>including the Bitdefender I use, so not just limited to W10. Why not turn
>off defender and use something else?

Because Defender comes with Windows so in theory should give good, if not
the best, results. I have tied it down to just the "C:" drive now, I will
set up a Downloads directory on C: so my downloads are checked.

As far as Nirsoft Produkey is concerned it is a useful tool, especially as
MSFT provides no means of checking the product key in use. I use it to
ensure I have licences on all my PCs which I would have thought MSFT would
be happy about.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

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 by: Andy Burns - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:10 UTC

Jeff Gaines wrote:

> As far as Nirsoft Produkey is concerned it is a useful tool, especially as MSFT
> provides no means of checking the product key in use. I use it to ensure I have
> licences on all my PCs which I would have thought MSFT would be happy about.

Sam as other "dual-use" tools, you and I may use it for good reasons, but you
must see that some other people use it to for what MS would see as bad reasons?
Hence they block it.

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 by: Philip Herlihy - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:31 UTC

In article <9d76697c-c86f-4b17-9ec3-396eeff4c683n@googlegroups.com>, Max
Collisions wrote...
>
....
> Are you are moron ?

This group has always been refreshing free of the sort of abuse you've just
reminded us exists elsewhere. Please, not here. Or you'll simply be killfiled
by everyone.

--

Phil, London

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:41 UTC

On 09/12/2022 in message <jvgmspFqshnU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
wrote:

>Jeff Gaines wrote:
>
>>As far as Nirsoft Produkey is concerned it is a useful tool, especially as
>>MSFT provides no means of checking the product key in use. I use it to
>>ensure I have licences on all my PCs which I would have thought MSFT
>>would be happy about.
>
>Sam as other "dual-use" tools, you and I may use it for good reasons, but
>you must see that some other people use it to for what MS would see as bad
>reasons? Hence they block it.

Not just them from all accounts :-(

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it

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 by: Steve Hough - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 13:00 UTC

Jeff Gaines explained :
> On 09/12/2022 in message
> <jvgmspFqshnU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
> wrote:
>
>>Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>
>>>As far as Nirsoft Produkey is concerned it is
>>> a useful tool, especially as MSFT provides
>>> no means of checking the product key in use.
>>> I use it to ensure I have licences on all
>>> my PCs which I would have thought MSFT would
>>> be happy about.
>>
>>Sam as other "dual-use" tools, you and I may
>> use it for good reasons, but you must see
>> that some other people use it to for what MS
>> would see as bad reasons? Hence they block
>> it.
>
> Not just them from all accounts :-(

A fair few of the Nirsoft products attract the
attention of the AV programs. Back when I was
fixing PCs, I often used the one that reveals the
MS Outlook account passwords (clients never even
knew there was one!). Again Bitdefender had a
hissy fit, but easily fixed.

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