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From: jennings...@fastmail.fm (JNugent)
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by: JNugent - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 16:59 UTC

On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>
>>> That would be Golf.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>
>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>
>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>
> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.

> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.

As long as they're on prescription, so do I.

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by: Mike Collins - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 17:08 UTC

On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
> >>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
> >>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neither am I.
> >>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
> >>>
> >>> That would be Golf.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
> >>>
> >>> Of course you will unclick this.
> >> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
> >>
> >> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
> >
> > Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
>
> > But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.

So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.

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by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 19:36 UTC

Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false
>>>>>>>> sense of self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>
>>> That would be Golf.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>
>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>
>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>
> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without
> it.
>
> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.

That says it all.
Prick.

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by: Mr Pounder Esquire - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 19:38 UTC

Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your
>>>>>>>>>> false sense of self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look
>>>>>>>>> childish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be Golf.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>>>
>>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>>>
>>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without
>>> it.
>>
>>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
>> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
>
> So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on
> prescription.

You are no good at this type of thing as you are a prick.

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by: JNugent - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:55 UTC

On 05/09/2021 06:08 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
>>>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be Golf.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>>>
>>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>>>
>>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
>>
>>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
>> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
>
> So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.

<sigh>

Do I?
>

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by: Mike Collins - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 23:24 UTC

On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 23:55:58 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 06:08 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
> >>>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Neither am I.
> >>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That would be Golf.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
> >>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
> >>>
> >>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
> >>
> >>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
> >> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
> >
> > So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.
> <sigh>
>
> Do I?
> >

Apparently.

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by: JNugent - Sun, 5 Sep 2021 23:46 UTC

On 06/09/2021 12:24 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 23:55:58 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 05/09/2021 06:08 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would be Golf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>>>>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
>>>>
>>>>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.

>>>> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
>>>
>>> So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.

>> <sigh>
>>
>> Do I?
>
> Apparently.

How can you possibly get so many things so wrong, so consistently?

You must try very hard.

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by: Mike Collins - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 03:54 UTC

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 00:46:52 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> On 06/09/2021 12:24 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 23:55:58 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >> On 05/09/2021 06:08 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Neither am I.
> >>>>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That would be Golf.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
> >>>>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
> >>>>
> >>>>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
>
> >>>> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
> >>>
> >>> So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.
>
> >> <sigh>
> >>
> >> Do I?
> >
> > Apparently.
> How can you possibly get so many things so wrong, so consistently?
>
> You must try very hard.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318619
Water is more addictive than Heroin but too much can kill you.

Of course you will unclick the uclicked link.

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by: Peter Keller - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:26 UTC

On 6/09/21 07:38, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

>
> You are no good at this type of thing as you are a prick.
>
>
The clear star that is yesterday ever stuns the onlooker.

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by: Peter Keller - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:27 UTC

On 6/09/21 07:36, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

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> That says it all.
> Prick.
>
>

A classical composition likes to have a shower in the morning.

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by: TMS320 - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:36 UTC

On 05/09/2021 01:53, JNugent wrote:
> On 04/09/2021 05:43 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>> On 04/09/2021 15:42, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2021 11:44 am, TMS320 wrote:
>>>> On 03/09/2021 15:48, JNugent wrote:
>>>>> On 03/09/2021 12:57 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/09/2021 01:02, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 10:06 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 17:10, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 11:39 am, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 31/08/2021 15:49, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/08/2021 02:48 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> “I wasn't expecting any outcome from the close pass aspect
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I submitted it because when I checked on the gov web
>>>>>>>>>>>> site it said that the car did not have a valid MOT,” he
>>>>>>>>>>>> explained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In response, Gloucestershire Constabulary said: “The MOT
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue is highlighted on the computer and hopefully an
>>>>>>>>>>>> officer will be able to stop the driver prior to them
>>>>>>>>>>>> renewing their MOT.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-630-police-explain-why-punishment-pass-not-prosecuted-286007
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Was the driver on his way to, or home from, a garage for the
>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle's MOT test?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Makes no difference. Whether going to or from the test, the
>>>>>>>>>> fact of a test having been performed would be seen later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why do you say it "makes no difference"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are as aware as anyone that it is not an offence to drive a
>>>>>>>>> vehicle without an MOT certificate if it is on its way to, or
>>>>>>>>> back from, an MOT test at a testing station.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it *certainly* "makes a difference" if the journey was a trip
>>>>>>> to or from a MOT testing station.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why say that it makes no difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Err... because it doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But that is not what I said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, if you re-read the material just a few lines above this, you
>>>>>>> will see that you *did* say: "Makes no difference".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would help considerably if you didn't mess around with the
>>>>>> order of things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But it does make a difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has the pantomime season started early?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Had the vehicle already been tested and was awaiting the
>>>>>>>>>>> garage's inputting it onto the DVLA system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Before the customer drives away they normally want a piece of
>>>>>>>>>> paper to take away with them. For me, it has always been
>>>>>>>>>> available, unasked for, when the test has been declared as
>>>>>>>>>> finished.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The vehicle might have even failed the test (it happens, though
>>>>>>>>> it's decades since I've actually witnessed such a thing). It's
>>>>>>>>> still lawful to drive to the testing centre and home from it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to be a detective to realise the difference
>>>>>>>> between an expired MOT and a failed MOT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it important?
>>>>
>>>> A new MOT can be a failure (for minor issues) whilst the previous
>>>> MOT is still current.
>>>>
>>>> It is stated there was no valid MOT.
>>>>
>>>>> The offence (if any, would be using a motor vehicle without a
>>>>> current MOT test certificate (not a matter, BTW, that has ever been
>>>>> seen as a hanging offence. It is usually charged where other
>>>>> offences sit alongside it, such as no insurance, driving whilst
>>>>> only a qualified fairy-cyclist, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But you knew that as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should familiarise yourself with the rules then. From -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Driving a vehicle that’s failed
>>>>>>>> You can take your vehicle away if:
>>>>>>>> - your current MOT certificate is still valid
>>>>>>>> - no ‘dangerous’ problems were listed in the MOT
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you’ll need to get it repaired before you can drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did the cyclist (or you) *know* that the MOT had run out at
>>>>>>> that moment and not (say) the next day?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, humans invented a calender system several thousand years ago
>>>>>> and most of them have developed the ability to work out whether a
>>>>>> given date is in the past, present or future.
>>>>>
>>>>> And?
>>>>
>>>> Well, since you have obviously gone through life without
>>>> understanding the system, there is no point trying to teach it to
>>>> you now. Stop trying to use your failure to assume that it is
>>>> difficult for others.
>>>
>>> Why do you assume that the intrusive "checking" by the fairy-cyclist
>>> was done on the same day as the vehicle was seen on the road,
>>> possibly on its way to or from the MOT testing station?
>>
>> The information is public domain. There is nothing intrusive about it.
>>
>>>>>>> This isn't a question of whether that had happened. It's a
>>>>>>> question of assumptions on no evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The MOT idea was entirely yours. You're desperate to hang on to
>>>>>> it, no matter how impractical, because a motorist is rarely wrong
>>>>>> and a cyclist is always wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The *OP* claimed that an MOT offence had been committed. And that
>>>>> without evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>> One day, the current MOT on your car will expire. When it has done
>>>>> so, will you be committing an offence?
>>>>
>>>> It depends.
>>>
>>> Ah...
>>
>> No "ah" about it. For a "rules and procedures" stickler you turn out
>> to be rather ignorant.
>
> On the one hand you cannot bring yourself claim that it is automatically
> an offence to drive a motor vehicle without a valid MOT test
> certificate, and on the other hand, you cannot stop yourself from trying
> to imply that the offence was / must have been committed in the instant
> case.
>
> Life is one long dilemma for you.

I have the last word. Blah blah blah.

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by: JNugent - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:14 UTC

On 06/09/2021 04:54 am, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 00:46:52 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>> On 06/09/2021 12:24 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 23:55:58 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 05/09/2021 06:08 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:59:05 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 05:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 17:38:44 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 11:38 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 10:42:48 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 05/09/2021 02:22 am, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 01:50:33 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 07:44 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 17:12:22 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2021 04:43 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 4 September 2021 at 15:42:55 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy-cyclist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And lost the argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it irritate you so much? Does it undermine your false sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self and imaginary dignity?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And "fairy-cyclist" isn't even abusive!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you haven't exactly got an abuse-free record, have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does not irritate me at all, it just makes you look childish.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not the one on a fairy-cycle!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neither am I.
>>>>>>>>>> It is your whole raison d'etre.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That would be Golf.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJX-nk-F0Og&t=73s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course you will unclick this.
>>>>>>>> I haven't clicked it, if that's what you mean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you had a point to make, you would try to make it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Golf is a drug, once you get a taste for it you cannot live without it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I have a very liberal attitude to drugs.
>>
>>>>>> As long as they're on prescription, so do I.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you think alcohol, sugar and water should only be available on prescription.
>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> Do I?
>>>
>>> Apparently.
>> How can you possibly get so many things so wrong, so consistently?
>>
>> You must try very hard.
>
> https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318619
> Water is more addictive than Heroin but too much can kill you.
>
> Of course you will unclick the uclicked link.

Naturally.
>

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by: JNugent - Mon, 6 Sep 2021 10:15 UTC

On 06/09/2021 10:36 am, TMS320 wrote:
> On 05/09/2021 01:53, JNugent wrote:
>> On 04/09/2021 05:43 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2021 15:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>> On 04/09/2021 11:44 am, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>> On 03/09/2021 15:48, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/09/2021 12:57 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/09/2021 01:02, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 10:06 pm, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 17:10, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 02/09/2021 11:39 am, TMS320 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/08/2021 15:49, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/08/2021 02:48 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “I wasn't expecting any outcome from the close pass aspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I submitted it because when I checked on the gov web
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site it said that the car did not have a valid MOT,” he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> explained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In response, Gloucestershire Constabulary said: “The MOT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue is highlighted on the computer and hopefully an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> officer will be able to stop the driver prior to them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> renewing their MOT.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-630-police-explain-why-punishment-pass-not-prosecuted-286007
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was the driver on his way to, or home from, a garage for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle's MOT test?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Makes no difference. Whether going to or from the test, the
>>>>>>>>>>> fact of a test having been performed would be seen later.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you say it "makes no difference"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are as aware as anyone that it is not an offence to drive
>>>>>>>>>> a vehicle without an MOT certificate if it is on its way to,
>>>>>>>>>> or back from, an MOT test at a testing station.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it *certainly* "makes a difference" if the journey was a trip
>>>>>>>> to or from a MOT testing station.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why say that it makes no difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Err... because it doesn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that is not what I said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, if you re-read the material just a few lines above this, you
>>>>>>>> will see that you *did* say: "Makes no difference".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would help considerably if you didn't mess around with the
>>>>>>> order of things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it does make a difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has the pantomime season started early?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Had the vehicle already been tested and was awaiting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> garage's inputting it onto the DVLA system?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before the customer drives away they normally want a piece of
>>>>>>>>>>> paper to take away with them. For me, it has always been
>>>>>>>>>>> available, unasked for, when the test has been declared as
>>>>>>>>>>> finished.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The vehicle might have even failed the test (it happens,
>>>>>>>>>> though it's decades since I've actually witnessed such a
>>>>>>>>>> thing). It's still lawful to drive to the testing centre and
>>>>>>>>>> home from it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to be a detective to realise the difference
>>>>>>>>> between an expired MOT and a failed MOT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is it important?
>>>>>
>>>>> A new MOT can be a failure (for minor issues) whilst the previous
>>>>> MOT is still current.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is stated there was no valid MOT.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The offence (if any, would be using a motor vehicle without a
>>>>>> current MOT test certificate (not a matter, BTW, that has ever
>>>>>> been seen as a hanging offence. It is usually charged where other
>>>>>> offences sit alongside it, such as no insurance, driving whilst
>>>>>> only a qualified fairy-cyclist, etc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you knew that as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should familiarise yourself with the rules then. From -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Driving a vehicle that’s failed
>>>>>>>>> You can take your vehicle away if:
>>>>>>>>> - your current MOT certificate is still valid
>>>>>>>>> - no ‘dangerous’ problems were listed in the MOT
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, you’ll need to get it repaired before you can drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did the cyclist (or you) *know* that the MOT had run out at
>>>>>>>> that moment and not (say) the next day?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, humans invented a calender system several thousand years
>>>>>>> ago and most of them have developed the ability to work out
>>>>>>> whether a given date is in the past, present or future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, since you have obviously gone through life without
>>>>> understanding the system, there is no point trying to teach it to
>>>>> you now. Stop trying to use your failure to assume that it is
>>>>> difficult for others.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you assume that the intrusive "checking" by the fairy-cyclist
>>>> was done on the same day as the vehicle was seen on the road,
>>>> possibly on its way to or from the MOT testing station?
>>>
>>> The information is public domain. There is nothing intrusive about it.
>>>
>>>>>>>> This isn't a question of whether that had happened. It's a
>>>>>>>> question of assumptions on no evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The MOT idea was entirely yours. You're desperate to hang on to
>>>>>>> it, no matter how impractical, because a motorist is rarely wrong
>>>>>>> and a cyclist is always wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The *OP* claimed that an MOT offence had been committed. And that
>>>>>> without evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One day, the current MOT on your car will expire. When it has done
>>>>>> so, will you be committing an offence?
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends.
>>>>
>>>> Ah...
>>>
>>> No "ah" about it. For a "rules and procedures" stickler you turn out
>>> to be rather ignorant.
>>
>> On the one hand you cannot bring yourself claim that it is
>> automatically an offence to drive a motor vehicle without a valid MOT
>> test certificate, and on the other hand, you cannot stop yourself from
>> trying to imply that the offence was / must have been committed in the
>> instant case.
> >
>> Life is one long dilemma for you.
>
> I have the last word. Blah blah blah.

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Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	swldx...@gmail.com
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	swldx...@gmail.com
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mr Pounder Esquire
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	Peter Keller
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mike Collins
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	Mr Pounder Esquire
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	Peter Keller
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	TMS320
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not prosecuted	swldx...@gmail.com
Re: Near Miss of the Day 630: Police explain why punishment pass not	JNugent