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* England now have these current 90 MPH bowlersRobert Henderson
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 by: Robert Henderson - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:27 UTC

These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket

George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
Mark Wood (Durham)
Luke Wood (Lancs)
Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
Reece Topley (Surrey)
Oliver Stone (Warks)
Josh Tongue (Worcs
Matt Fisher (Yorks)

These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
Matt Milnes (Yorks)
George Hill (Yorks)
Tom Loton (Yorks)

RH

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 by: Najeeb ybo - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:07 UTC

On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
>
> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
> Mark Wood (Durham)
> Luke Wood (Lancs)
> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
> Reece Topley (Surrey)
> Oliver Stone (Warks)
> Josh Tongue (Worcs
> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
>
> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
> Matt Milnes (Yorks)
> George Hill (Yorks)
> Tom Loton (Yorks)
>
> RH
>
>
You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)

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 by: max.it - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 17:20 UTC

On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Najeeb ybo
<najeebybo@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
>> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
>>
>> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
>> Mark Wood (Durham)
>> Luke Wood (Lancs)
>> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
>> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
>> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
>> Reece Topley (Surrey)
>> Oliver Stone (Warks)
>> Josh Tongue (Worcs
>> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
>>
>> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
>> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
>> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
>> Matt Milnes (Yorks)
>> George Hill (Yorks)
>> Tom Loton (Yorks)
>>
>> RH
>>
>>
>You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
>
>
Henderson is stuck in a twilight zone somewhere between carry on
doctors and nurses and Norman Wisdom.

max.it

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 by: Steve Hague - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 06:13 UTC

On 24/09/2023 18:20, max.it wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Najeeb ybo
> <najeebybo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
>>> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
>>>
>>> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
>>> Mark Wood (Durham)
>>> Luke Wood (Lancs)
>>> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
>>> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
>>> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
>>> Reece Topley (Surrey)
>>> Oliver Stone (Warks)
>>> Josh Tongue (Worcs
>>> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
>>>
>>> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
>>> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
>>> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
>>> Matt Milnes (Yorks)
>>> George Hill (Yorks)
>>> Tom Loton (Yorks)
>>>
>>> RH
>>>
>>>
>> You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
>>
>>
> Henderson is stuck in a twilight zone somewhere between carry on
> doctors and nurses and Norman Wisdom.
>
> max.it
If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it they're
currently propping up division 2?

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 by: Andy Walker - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:45 UTC

On 25/09/2023 07:13, Steve Hague wrote:
> If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it
> they're currently propping up division 2?
All their English players are being kept out by foreign imports?

--
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Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
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 by: John Hall - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:57 UTC

In message <kncmnqFuasbU1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> writes
>On 24/09/2023 18:20, max.it wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Najeeb ybo
>> <najeebybo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson
>>>wrote:
>>>> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
>>>>
>>>> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
>>>> Mark Wood (Durham)
>>>> Luke Wood (Lancs)
>>>> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
>>>> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
>>>> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
>>>> Reece Topley (Surrey)
>>>> Oliver Stone (Warks)
>>>> Josh Tongue (Worcs
>>>> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
>>>>
>>>> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
>>>> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
>>>> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
>>>> Matt Milnes (Yorks)
>>>> George Hill (Yorks)
>>>> Tom Loton (Yorks)
>>>>
>>>> RH
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
>>>
>>>
>> Henderson is stuck in a twilight zone somewhere between carry on
>> doctors and nurses and Norman Wisdom.
>> max.it
>If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it they're
>currently propping up division 2?

I guess that, though they are already quick, they are still very raw and
need more experience before they can potentially become high class. Also
losing Root, Bairstow and Brook to England must have left a big hole in
Yorkshire's batting.
--
John Hall "[It was] so steep that at intervals the street broke into steps,
like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
its sober climb, until it had another fit of steps."
Ursula K Le Guin "The Beginning Place"

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 by: Robert Henderson - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 15:44 UTC

On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 3:07:52 PM UTC+1, Najeeb ybo wrote:
> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson wrote:
> > These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
> >
> > George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
> > Mark Wood (Durham)
> > Luke Wood (Lancs)
> > Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
> > Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
> > Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
> > Reece Topley (Surrey)
> > Oliver Stone (Warks)
> > Josh Tongue (Worcs
> > Matt Fisher (Yorks)
> >
> > These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
> > Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
> > Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
> > Matt Milnes (Yorks)
> > George Hill (Yorks)
> > Tom Loton (Yorks)
> >
> > RH
> >
> >
> You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
My concentration wavered.... RH

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 by: Robert Henderson - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 16:16 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:47 AM UTC+1, Andy Walker wrote:
> On 25/09/2023 07:13, Steve Hague wrote:
> > If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it
> > they're currently propping up division 2?
> All their English players are being kept out by foreign imports?

Oh dear, Dr BM mistakes raw promise for confirmed accomplishment. RH

> --
> Andy Walker, Nottingham.
> Andy's music pages: www.cuboid.me.uk/andy/Music
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Subject: Re: England now have these current 90 MPH bowlers
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 by: John Hall - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:22 UTC

In message <4398baf8-401c-4640-9606-facb9efd9d47n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Henderson <anywhere156@gmail.com> writes
>On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:470 >> On 25/09/2023 07:13, Steve Hague wrote:
>> > If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it
>> > they're currently propping up division 2?
>> All their English players are being kept out by foreign imports?
>
>Oh dear, Dr BM mistakes raw promise for confirmed accomplishment. RH

I suspect that you are actually referring to Steve's comment rather than
Andy's.
--
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like a person breaking into giggles or hiccups, and then resumed
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 by: mike - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:49 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 10:06:50 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> In message <kncmnq...@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
> <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
> >On 24/09/2023 18:20, max.it wrote:
> >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Najeeb ybo
> >> <naje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson
> >>>wrote:
> >>>> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
> >>>>
> >>>> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
> >>>> Mark Wood (Durham)
> >>>> Luke Wood (Lancs)
> >>>> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
> >>>> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
> >>>> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
> >>>> Reece Topley (Surrey)
> >>>> Oliver Stone (Warks)
> >>>> Josh Tongue (Worcs
> >>>> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
> >>>>

overton and tongue are more usually high 80s , topley is usually 80-85, and
since his injury stone hasnt looked especially fast, nor fisher.

that leaves just the woods and atkinson.

> >>>> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
> >>>> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
> >>>> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
> >>>> Matt Milnes (Yorks)

milnes played 1 match b4 he got injured again this season.
i would rather england had picked lawes than scrimo for these odis,
but i'm sure surrey are happy they didnt.

> >>>> George Hill (Yorks)
> >>>> Tom Loton (Yorks)
> >>>>

these are surely just FM and loton plays for notts.

> >>>> RH
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
> >>>

he seemed more 79-83mphs when i was watching.

> >>>
> >> Henderson is stuck in a twilight zone somewhere between carry on
> >> doctors and nurses and Norman Wisdom.
> >> max.it
> >If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it they're
> >currently propping up division 2?
> I guess that, though they are already quick, they are still very raw and
> need more experience before they can potentially become high class. Also
> losing Root, Bairstow and Brook to England must have left a big hole in
> Yorkshire's batting.
> --

plus they got docked 48 points before the start due to the racism row.

mike

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 by: Robert Henderson - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:07 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:25:02 PM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> In message <4398baf8-401c-4640...@googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Henderson <anywh...@gmail.com> writes
> >On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:45:470 >> On 25/09/2023 07:13, Steve Hague wrote:
> >> > If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it
> >> > they're currently propping up division 2?
> >> All their English players are being kept out by foreign imports?
> >
> >Oh dear, Dr BM mistakes raw promise for confirmed accomplishment. RH
> I suspect that you are actually referring to Steve's comment rather than
> Andy's.
> --

No need to worry. Ensuring Dr B-M is on the correction track is the primary good... RH

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 by: Robert Henderson - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 08:09 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 11:49:31 PM UTC+1, mike wrote:
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 10:06:50 AM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
> > In message <kncmnq...@mid.individual.net>, Steve Hague
> > <steveh...@gmail.com> writes
> > >On 24/09/2023 18:20, max.it wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Najeeb ybo
> > >> <naje...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sunday, 24 September 2023 at 13:27:33 UTC+1, Robert Henderson
> > >>>wrote:
> > >>>> These have already played for England in at least one form of cricket
> > >>>>
> > >>>> George Grimshaw (Derbyshire)
> > >>>> Mark Wood (Durham)
> > >>>> Luke Wood (Lancs)
> > >>>> Richard Gleeson (Lancs)
> > >>>> Jamie Overton ( Surrey)
> > >>>> Gus Atkinson (Surrey)
> > >>>> Reece Topley (Surrey)
> > >>>> Oliver Stone (Warks)
> > >>>> Josh Tongue (Worcs
> > >>>> Matt Fisher (Yorks)
> > >>>>
> overton and tongue are more usually high 80s , topley is usually 80-85, and
> since his injury stone hasnt looked especially fast, nor fisher.
>
> that leaves just the woods and atkinson.
> > >>>> These 90 mph bowlers who one day may play for England
> > >>>> Tom Lawes ( Surrey)
> > >>>> Dillon Pennington (Worcs)
> > >>>> Matt Milnes (Yorks)
> milnes played 1 match b4 he got injured again this season.
> i would rather england had picked lawes than scrimo for these odis,
> but i'm sure surrey are happy they didnt.
> > >>>> George Hill (Yorks)
> > >>>> Tom Loton (Yorks)
> > >>>>
> these are surely just FM and loton plays for notts.

Nope. All RF . Loton is on loan to Notts. RH

> > >>>> RH
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> You left out George Scrimshaw (Derbyshire)
> > >>>
> he seemed more 79-83mphs when i was watching.
> > >>>
> > >> Henderson is stuck in a twilight zone somewhere between carry on
> > >> doctors and nurses and Norman Wisdom.
> > >> max.it
> > >If Yorkshire have all these high class fast bowlers, how is it they're
> > >currently propping up division 2?
> > I guess that, though they are already quick, they are still very raw and
> > need more experience before they can potentially become high class. Also
> > losing Root, Bairstow and Brook to England must have left a big hole in
> > Yorkshire's batting.
> > --
> plus they got docked 48 points before the start due to the racism row.
>
> mike

Good Point. RH

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