On 01 Nov 2021 at 20:25:22 GMT, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On 01/11/2021 05:41 pm, Java Jive wrote:
>
>> On 01/11/2021 17:18, JNugent wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2021 05:11 pm, Java Jive wrote:
>>>> On 01/11/2021 13:15, JNugent wrote:
>>>>> On 01/11/2021 01:15 am, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/11/2021 00:20, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> No, amongst people who routinely debunk fake news, it's an
>>>>>>> accepted fact that the vast majority of it comes from three main
>>>>>>> sources:
>>
>>>>>>> - Foreign governments trying to sow dissent in other nations;
>>>>>>> - Foreign citizens trying to boost their advertising revenue;
>>>>>>> - The right-wing.
>>
>>>>>>> See/hear/read for example ...
>
>>>>>> [provenance snipped]
>>>>>> Yep, all I see are bigoted lies from a leftist masquerading as a
>>>>>> centrist, claiming anything they don't like to hear is bigoted.
>>
>>>>> That *SOUNDS* about *RIGHT*!
>>
>>>> Except that neither he nor you can prove a word of it, whereas I
>>>> provided provenance.
>>
>>> *WHY* have you *TURNED* the *VOLUME* down?
>>
>> *WHY* can't you speak in plain English?
>
> Oh my God...
>
> Irony just *WHIZZES* past you, doesn't it? :-)

Poor JJ. Life's such a puzzle for him.

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-- Christopher Hitchens

On 01/11/2021 20:25, JNugent wrote:
>
> On 01/11/2021 05:41 pm, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 01/11/2021 17:18, JNugent wrote:
>>>
>>> *WHY* have you *TURNED* the *VOLUME* down?
>>
>> *WHY* can't you speak in plain English?
>
> Oh my God...
>
> Irony just *WHIZZES* past you, doesn't it? :-)

Perhaps it's because you're so very bad at it.

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On 01/11/2021 17:14, Java Jive wrote:
> On 01/11/2021 01:18, Fredxx wrote:
>> On 01/11/2021 00:34, Java Jive wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2021 23:17, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2021 22:51, Tony Gamble wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I the only person who thinks that threads like this will be the
>>>>> death of News.net?
>>>>>
>>>>> I joined to swop ideas and questions about uk digital tv.
>>>>>
>>>>> You guys kill this with your constant attempt to score points off
>>>>> each other.
>>>
>>> In general, I agree, but you only have to look at the sort of people
>>> who start these threads and subthreads to know that they're always
>>> begun by one of the same comparatively small group of people, you can
>>> count them on the fingers of one hand almost  -  Bob Latham, Bill
>>> Wright, JNugent, the nymshifting idiot who's just been TOSed, maybe a
>>> couple of others, etc.  They do it so often that it has to be a
>>> deliberate ploy of if you sling enough mud, hopefully some of it will
>>> stick.
>>>
>>>> Learn to kill subthreads started by "Java Jive". Java Jive never
>>>> adds any useful information.
>
> I failed to point out before that I don't *BEGIN* these subthreads, I
> merely reply when someone else does, usually to debunk a lie.

No, but you certainly continue them, thereby increasing the noise level
in these groups.

On 01/11/2021 22:05, Fredxx wrote:
>
> On 01/11/2021 17:14, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 01/11/2021 01:18, Fredxx wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/11/2021 00:34, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Learn to kill subthreads started by "Java Jive". Java Jive never
>>>>> adds any useful information.
>>
>> I failed to point out before that I don't *BEGIN* these subthreads, I
>> merely reply when someone else does, usually to debunk a lie.
>
> No, but you certainly continue them, thereby increasing the noise level
> in these groups.

I don't deny that, for the reason already explained, that if lies are
allowed to go unchallenged on social media, by their very prevalence and
the fact they go unchallenged they can come to be accepted as truth, so
black becomes 'white' and white becomes 'black'. So I think it's
important to debunk them, no matter how often they are repeated. The
problem is that there are those that keep repeating them ad nauseam.

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On 01/11/2021 22:46, Java Jive wrote:
> On 01/11/2021 22:05, Fredxx wrote:
>>
>> On 01/11/2021 17:14, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/11/2021 01:18, Fredxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 01/11/2021 00:34, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Learn to kill subthreads started by "Java Jive". Java Jive never
>>>>>> adds any useful information.
>>>
>>> I failed to point out before that I don't *BEGIN* these subthreads, I
>>> merely reply when someone else does, usually to debunk a lie.
>>
>> No, but you certainly continue them, thereby increasing the noise
>> level in these groups.
>
> I don't deny that, for the reason already explained, that if lies are
> allowed to go unchallenged on social media, by their very prevalence and
> the fact they go unchallenged they can come to be accepted as truth, so
> black becomes 'white' and white becomes 'black'.  So I think it's
> important to debunk them, no matter how often they are repeated.  The
> problem is that there are those that keep repeating them ad nauseam.

Quite, that is why I describe you as a bigot, since views you don't
agree with you claim to be bigotry, when in reality they are merely
opinions.

Perhaps if you were more accepting of other's opinions you might not
attract so much hostility.

On 01/11/2021 23:09, Fredxx wrote:
>
> On 01/11/2021 22:46, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 01/11/2021 22:05, Fredxx wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/11/2021 17:14, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I failed to point out before that I don't *BEGIN* these subthreads,
>>>> I merely reply when someone else does, usually to debunk a lie.
>>>
>>> No, but you certainly continue them, thereby increasing the noise
>>> level in these groups.
>>
>> I don't deny that, for the reason already explained, that if lies are
>> allowed to go unchallenged on social media, by their very prevalence
>> and the fact they go unchallenged they can come to be accepted as
>> truth, so black becomes 'white' and white becomes 'black'.  So I think
>> it's important to debunk them, no matter how often they are repeated.
>> The problem is that there are those that keep repeating them ad nauseam.
>
> Quite, that is why I describe you as a bigot, since views you don't
> agree with you claim to be bigotry, when in reality they are merely
> opinions.

No, the ones I attack are either unsubstantiated claims or downright
lies. Why do you think those who expressing opinions in public that
they can't ever substantiate shouldn't suffer the consequences of it?
How else are they ever going to learn that they need to raise their
level of debate?

> Perhaps if you were more accepting of other's opinions you might not
> attract so much hostility.

Perhaps if others would learn to base their opinions on solid grounds
they wouldn't attract so much hostility.

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Fake news kills!

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