On 07/11/2021 12:12, charles wrote:
> I was involved, a great many years ago, in an amateur theatrical production
> where the "Irish maid's" accent would often vary from Belfast to County
> Cork in the space of a paragraph.

Of course some people's accents do vary like that. I remember
Strictly's Tess Daly had a lot of moans from some people about her
accent. But several from Derbyshire said her accent was typical for the
area. Being married to someone from Bolton (where we have no accent)
will confuse the issue.

On 07/11/2021 12:12, charles wrote:

> I was involved, a great many years ago, in an amateur theatrical production
> where the "Irish maid's" accent would often vary from Belfast to County
> Cork in the space of a paragraph.
>

She must have been travelling faster than light!

Bill

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 23:17:06 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

> The documentary showing the journey of the steam engine 'Tornado' and
> a train of carriages up the North-East coast of England shows a
> traditional fish smoke-house. The subtitles explained that, in the
> 15th and 16th centuries, heron was a staple food for most people, as
> it was common and easily caught. I had no idea that the bird was that
> common. Then it showed a traditional herring smoke-house, which made
> much more sense.
> I can excuse a mistake like that during a live broadcast, but in a
> filmed and edited documentary, there really is no excuse for editing
> mistakes like that.
> Unless, pf course, they don't really care...

"I woke up this morning", and turned on the BBC News, to read on the
subtitles that a couple of cyclists were taking a Rugby Ball somewhere
in memory of Doddie Weir, which trip involved them cycling 555 miles in
5 hours. I know that bikes are faster than they used to be in my day,
but 111 mph would surely attract the attention of Sgt. Speedcatcher?

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Another thing seems to be beginning to happen on some programmes. The sub
titles are being read by a synthetic voice on the AD channel, and of course
it reproduces all the mistakes and most of the time is dead pan and
mispronounces things.
Dit you know that Peter Noone was really Peter No One? Snigger.
Brian

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"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 23:17:06 +0000
> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The documentary showing the journey of the steam engine 'Tornado' and
>> a train of carriages up the North-East coast of England shows a
>> traditional fish smoke-house. The subtitles explained that, in the
>> 15th and 16th centuries, heron was a staple food for most people, as
>> it was common and easily caught. I had no idea that the bird was that
>> common. Then it showed a traditional herring smoke-house, which made
>> much more sense.
>> I can excuse a mistake like that during a live broadcast, but in a
>> filmed and edited documentary, there really is no excuse for editing
>> mistakes like that.
>> Unless, pf course, they don't really care...
>
> "I woke up this morning", and turned on the BBC News, to read on the
> subtitles that a couple of cyclists were taking a Rugby Ball somewhere
> in memory of Doddie Weir, which trip involved them cycling 555 miles in
> 5 hours. I know that bikes are faster than they used to be in my day,
> but 111 mph would surely attract the attention of Sgt. Speedcatcher?
>
> --
> Davey.
>

Davey wrote:

> the subtitles explained that, in the 15th and 16th centuries, heron
> was a staple food for most people, as it was common and easily
> caught. I had no idea that the bird was that common.
Oh mum! Why do I always get the beak?

On 09/02/2023 09:07, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Did you know that Peter Noone was really Peter No One? Snigger.

I remember reading an article somewhere which said that "Noone" was a
made-up name, probably derived from "no-one", in the same way that Nosmo
King got his name from a pair of double doors with "No Smoking" written
on them as "NO SMO" and "KING".

And I believed it! Until I checked Peter Noone's Wikipedia entry just
now and saw that he really was born Peter Blair Denis Bernard Noone.

I've not had any cause to listen to AD, but I'll keep my ears open and
see if I can catch any programmes that use speech synthesis for the AD
track.

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 23:17:06 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

> The documentary showing the journey of the steam engine 'Tornado' and
> a train of carriages up the North-East coast of England shows a
> traditional fish smoke-house. The subtitles explained that, in the
> 15th and 16th centuries, heron was a staple food for most people, as
> it was common and easily caught. I had no idea that the bird was that
> common. Then it showed a traditional herring smoke-house, which made
> much more sense.
> I can excuse a mistake like that during a live broadcast, but in a
> filmed and edited documentary, there really is no excuse for editing
> mistakes like that.
> Unless, pf course, they don't really care...

Today's offering!
The subtitle said: "Mario's sissy", which actually meant: "Manchester
City". I wonder what Gary would have made of that?

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Yes, I wonder why nobody actually thought of trying to make the subtitles
audible, it might help following stuff like documentaries with foreign
speakers and not a hint of AD.

As for doing subtitling

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"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 23:17:06 +0000
> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The documentary showing the journey of the steam engine 'Tornado' and
>> a train of carriages up the North-East coast of England shows a
>> traditional fish smoke-house. The subtitles explained that, in the
>> 15th and 16th centuries, heron was a staple food for most people, as
>> it was common and easily caught. I had no idea that the bird was that
>> common. Then it showed a traditional herring smoke-house, which made
>> much more sense.
>> I can excuse a mistake like that during a live broadcast, but in a
>> filmed and edited documentary, there really is no excuse for editing
>> mistakes like that.
>> Unless, pf course, they don't really care...
>
> Today's offering!
> The subtitle said: "Mario's sissy", which actually meant: "Manchester
> City". I wonder what Gary would have made of that?
>
> --
> Davey.
>

And as a special treat Laura Trevelyan will read them...

On 12/03/2023 in message <tukp72$33um2$1@dont-email.me> Brian Gaff wrote:

>Yes, I wonder why nobody actually thought of trying to make the subtitles
>audible, it might help following stuff like documentaries with foreign
>speakers and not a hint of AD.
>
>As for doing subtitling

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On 12/03/2023 14:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Yes, I wonder why nobody actually thought of trying to make the subtitles
> audible, it might help following stuff like documentaries with foreign
> speakers and not a hint of AD.

The original subtitles were teletext and I think used very little
bandwidth, wouldn't an audio system use more?

Unfortunately, many that are done are done with an electronic voice with as
much personality as a turnip.
Brian

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> And as a special treat Laura Trevelyan will read them...
>
> On 12/03/2023 in message <tukp72$33um2$1@dont-email.me> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>>Yes, I wonder why nobody actually thought of trying to make the subtitles
>>audible, it might help following stuff like documentaries with foreign
>>speakers and not a hint of AD.
>>
>>As for doing subtitling
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
> George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th
> birthday.
> (Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

On 13/03/2023 12:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
> Unfortunately, many that are done are done with an electronic voice with as
> much personality as a turnip.
> Brian

Sounds a bit like Lineker.