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* OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunderRecliner
+* OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cablesRoland Perry
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From: recliner...@gmail.com (Recliner)
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Subject: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder
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 by: Recliner - Fri, 6 May 2022 09:01 UTC

You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:

<https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>

Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables

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From: rol...@perry.co.uk (Roland Perry)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 10:28:21 +0100
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 by: Roland Perry - Fri, 6 May 2022 09:28 UTC

In message <t52o5r$fbk$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:01:47 on Fri, 6 May 2022,
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:
>
><https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624
>?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>

That sort of thing has been going on for decades with telecoms cables,
which is one reason why that continent was an early adopter of cellphone
technology.
--
Roland Perry

Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables

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From: hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk (hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power
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 by: hounslow3@yahoo.co.u - Fri, 6 May 2022 16:19 UTC

On 06/05/2022 10:01, Recliner wrote:
> You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:
>
> <https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>

That is a fairly regular occurrence in South Africa, AIUI.

Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables

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From: joc...@soccer.com (Nobody)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables
Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 17:46:02 -0700
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 by: Nobody - Sat, 7 May 2022 00:46 UTC

On Fri, 6 May 2022 10:28:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <t52o5r$fbk$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:01:47 on Fri, 6 May 2022,
>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:
>>
>><https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624
>>?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>
>
>That sort of thing has been going on for decades with telecoms cables,
>which is one reason why that continent was an early adopter of cellphone
>technology.

Though South Africa had long had a backbone telco landline system to
rival any in Europe... and early DDD (direct-distance-dialling) as
well.

Whether that "served" all possible consumers is another question.

The apartheid economy was remarkably state-controlled... Eskom (now
struggling) for electricity... South African Railways and Port
Adminstration (the title alone sez a lot)... Telekom.

Eskom can't keep power "live".... Metrorail turned power off because
of COVID lack-of-demand for service... overhead catenary/knitting
became prime target.

Wuzn't the Blue Train suspended for the same reason?

Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power cables

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From: hounsl...@yahoo.co.uk (hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: OT: South African railways grind to a halt as gangs plunder power
cables
Date: Sat, 7 May 2022 01:54:34 +0100
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 by: hounslow3@yahoo.co.u - Sat, 7 May 2022 00:54 UTC

On 07/05/2022 01:46, Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 10:28:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> In message <t52o5r$fbk$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:01:47 on Fri, 6 May 2022,
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:
>>>
>>> <https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624
>>> ?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>
>>
>> That sort of thing has been going on for decades with telecoms cables,
>> which is one reason why that continent was an early adopter of cellphone
>> technology.
>
> Though South Africa had long had a backbone telco landline system to
> rival any in Europe... and early DDD (direct-distance-dialling) as
> well.
>
> Whether that "served" all possible consumers is another question.
>
> The apartheid economy was remarkably state-controlled... Eskom (now
> struggling) for electricity... South African Railways and Port
> Adminstration (the title alone sez a lot)... Telekom.
>
> Eskom can't keep power "live".... Metrorail turned power off because
> of COVID lack-of-demand for service... overhead catenary/knitting
> became prime target.
>
> Wuzn't the Blue Train suspended for the same reason?

What happened with Gautrain, in that case?

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 by: Nobody - Sat, 7 May 2022 01:31 UTC

On Sat, 7 May 2022 01:54:34 +0100, "hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk"
<hounslow3@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On 07/05/2022 01:46, Nobody wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 May 2022 10:28:21 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <t52o5r$fbk$1@dont-email.me>, at 09:01:47 on Fri, 6 May 2022,
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> You thought theft of UK railway cables was bad? Look at South Africa:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/79c153ca-cc6e-11ec-b225-ba85b2bd8624
>>>> ?shareToken=57d4252fc7a44aa10d9da3da12ec6a3f>
>>>
>>> That sort of thing has been going on for decades with telecoms cables,
>>> which is one reason why that continent was an early adopter of cellphone
>>> technology.
>>
>> Though South Africa had long had a backbone telco landline system to
>> rival any in Europe... and early DDD (direct-distance-dialling) as
>> well.
>>
>> Whether that "served" all possible consumers is another question.
>>
>> The apartheid economy was remarkably state-controlled... Eskom (now
>> struggling) for electricity... South African Railways and Port
>> Adminstration (the title alone sez a lot)... Telekom.
>>
>> Eskom can't keep power "live".... Metrorail turned power off because
>> of COVID lack-of-demand for service... overhead catenary/knitting
>> became prime target.
>>
>> Wuzn't the Blue Train suspended for the same reason?
>
>What happened with Gautrain, in that case?

I'm not sure of your point.

Are you saying you've seen a report Gautrain has been affected by
wiring/power disruption?

The Blue Train is one service along a long distance of OH electrified
track, involving both the Cape Town and Gauteng regions, where local
theft/disruption has been rampant.

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