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* I see at least some AD is back on Channel fourBrian Gaff \(Sofa\)
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From: bria...@blueyonder.co.uk (Brian Gaff \(Sofa\))
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Subject: I see at least some AD is back on Channel four
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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:56 UTC

They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
Brian

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 by: Martin - Sun, 21 Nov 2021 10:01 UTC

and occasionally subtitles are back too.

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:56:25 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
> Brian
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From: bria...@blueyonder.co.uk (Brian Gaff \(Sofa\))
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Subject: Re: I see at least some AD is back on Channel four
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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 08:33 UTC

Sub titles have been back for some time. Its only in the last few days that
AD has reappeared and incidentally I've not heard an announcement anywhere
public about it. Perhaps they are keeping their fingers crossed before they
get the trumpets out. grin.

Certainly Star Trek film last night had it.

Brian

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"Martin" <me@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> and occasionally subtitles are back too.
>
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 09:56:25 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that
>>somebody,
>>somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>> Brian
> --
>
> Martin in Zuid Holland
>
>
>

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From: john_nos...@jhall.co.uk (John Hall)
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Subject: Re: I see at least some AD is back on Channel four
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 by: John Hall - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 10:15 UTC

They've certainly made a fuss about the return of subtitles, though
making it sound as if it's something brand new rather than a return.

John Hall

In message <snfkl2$hvk$1@dont-email.me>, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>Sub titles have been back for some time. Its only in the last few days that
>AD has reappeared and incidentally I've not heard an announcement anywhere
>public about it. Perhaps they are keeping their fingers crossed before they
>get the trumpets out. grin.
>
>Certainly Star Trek film last night had it.
>
> Brian
>

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 by: Mark Carver - Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44 UTC

On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
> Brian
>
I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon

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 by: Martin - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:10 UTC

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>> Brian
>>
>I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon

I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
had.
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 by: Mark Carver - Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12 UTC

On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>> Brian
>>>
>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
> had.
C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
to manually add it in non-Freesat mode

https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:00 UTC

Its saving the face time I suppose. I don't blame the employees its the
policy that was never really fit for purpose.
Brian

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"John Hall" <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message
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> They've certainly made a fuss about the return of subtitles, though making
> it sound as if it's something brand new rather than a return.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> In message <snfkl2$hvk$1@dont-email.me>, "Brian Gaff (Sofa)"
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>Sub titles have been back for some time. Its only in the last few days
>>that
>>AD has reappeared and incidentally I've not heard an announcement anywhere
>>public about it. Perhaps they are keeping their fingers crossed before
>>they
>>get the trumpets out. grin.
>>
>>Certainly Star Trek film last night had it.
>>
>> Brian
>>

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 by: Martin - Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:15 UTC

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>> had.
>C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>
>https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform

We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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 by: Mark Carver - Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46 UTC

On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>> had.
>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>
>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)

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 by: Martin - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 12:05 UTC

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>>> had.
>>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>>
>>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)

Our Sony TV upscales SD. There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
things like tennis and football.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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 by: Mark Carver - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 14:19 UTC

On 27/11/2021 12:05, Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>>>> had.
>>>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>>>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>>>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>>>
>>>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
>>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>> Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>> 'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)
>
> Our Sony TV upscales SD.

They all do, otherwise you'd have a postage stamp size image in the
middle of the screen
> There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
> things like tennis and football.
You're a card

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 by: Max Demian - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 18:02 UTC

On 27/11/2021 14:19, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 27/11/2021 12:05, Martin wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver
>> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:

>>>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>>> Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>>> 'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)
>>
>> Our Sony TV upscales SD.
>
> They all do, otherwise you'd have a postage stamp size image in the
> middle of the screen

>> There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
>> things like tennis and football.

Same here with my 32" Sony bought in 2012. Only obviously old programmes
look fuzzy in SD. (Actually the PVRs also do upscaling so I don't know
which does it better.)

--
Max Demian

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 by: Dave W - Sat, 27 Nov 2021 18:58 UTC

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:05:06 +0100, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>>>> had.
>>>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>>>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>>>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>>>
>>>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
>>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>>Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>>'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)
>
>
>Our Sony TV upscales SD. There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
>things like tennis and football.
Also the tiny disclaimer text along the bottom of the screen on some
adverts will be even more dificult to read.
--
Dave W

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 by: Martin - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 10:54 UTC

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:05:06 +0100, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>>>> had.
>>>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>>>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>>>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>>>
>>>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
>>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>>Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>>'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)
>
>
>Our Sony TV upscales SD. There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
>things like tennis and football.

I've checked Freesat Channel 4 is in HD.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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 by: Martin - Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:47 UTC

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 18:58:28 +0000, Dave W <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:05:06 +0100, Martin <me@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:46:21 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 24/11/2021 10:15, Martin wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:12:24 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/11/2021 11:10, Martin wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 11:44:45 +0000, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/11/2021 09:56, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>>>>>>> They really did cock this up big time. One might have thought that somebody,
>>>>>>>> somewhere would have seen the problem of a single point of failure?
>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hear C4 HD should be back on the Freesat EPG very soon
>>>>>> I wasn't aware 5hat it had gone.One of te frustrating things was being able to
>>>>>> see the EPG, but the programmes having no subtitles when the EPG said that they
>>>>>> had.
>>>>> C4 pulled C4-HD off the Freesat EPG in Feb 2018, it remained FTA and
>>>>> available of Sky's EPG, but the only way to view it on a Freesat box was
>>>>> to manually add it in non-Freesat mode
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.smartaerials.co.uk/blog/channel-4-all-4-leaving-freesat-platform
>>>> We must be watching the SD version on Freesat?
>>>Yep, it will be if you're in Freesat mode. The clues are the lack of an
>>>'HD' logo on the DOG, and, well, urmm, the picture is in SD :-)
>>
>>
>>Our Sony TV upscales SD. There isn't much difference between HD and SD except in
>>things like tennis and football.
>
>Also the tiny disclaimer text along the bottom of the screen on some
>adverts will be even more dificult to read.

Is that a problem? Who watches the adverts? :-)
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

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